Subwoofer(s)

[Skandocious]

I've been a long time user of winamp but have never caught onto the art of creating AVS visualizations. I listen to a lot of rap music so i was wonder if it would be possible to make a visualization with a subwoofer (or several) that hits every time the bass hits. And maybe an oscilliscope in there somewhere to catch the other beats in the song. I have found 1 other visualization like my idea at:

http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=35455

Someone please reply and tell me if this is even realistic. Thanx

[fragmer]

here's one.
I took the bitmap from that preset you linked to and made everyting else myself
Enjoy the power of orange

[Skandocious]

I appreciate the attempt very much but i dont think you did want you were tryin to do... Maybe its my computer but when i use the plugin loads its just a screen that flashes black and white in a seizure worthy fasion. I downloaded the bitmap of the sub and it looks great but it doesnt show up on the visualization. Maybe some fine tuning would do the trick?
Thanx

[dirkdeftly]

uhm

there's no way to tell "when the bass kicks" as the 'bass' is taken over by tons of frequencies and most of them aren't the kick/the bassline. not to mention that basses/kicks vary from song to song. that's why beat detection is always so shit - until we create better artificial intelligence with a taste in music we'll never be able to detect what's a snare, what's a guitar, what's a trumpet, etc. by algorithm.

of course, if we made AI with a taste in music, it wouldn't be listening to rap...

[Skandocious]

Apparently they have discovered a way to detect hard beats (maybe not bass beats, but most of the hard beats = bass beats) because i have come accross a few visualizations in winamp 5 that accomplish this. One of the more successful ones is Reflectocube by UnConeD. Check it out. I just want that strength of beat detection, applied to a bmp of a subwoofer. If anyone knows how to program that kind of beat detection here is a bitmap of a sub.

[Deamon]

Why don't you make it yourself? And don't go 'I CAN"T!' because you can learn. What you want is easy, but we can't visualise exactly what you want, you have to do that yourself.

[hungryskull]

Why don't you make it yourself? And don't go 'I CAN"T!' because you can learn.

He's right. Make it yourself next time.

But here is something close to what you wanted. You need texer 2 and the sub bitmap to watch this.

Note:I don't like rap much, so I don't know how this will react.

[hungryskull]

Forgot to attach. Here it is.

[Skandocious]

Very nice job Hungryskull, thats very close to what i asked for. 2 problems...Too plain, and maybe the sub is too small by a little bit but i guess you had to shrink it if you wanted to make it hit. Secondly, it hits harder on the snaps than the bumps, but still very nice. I appreciate your time.

By the way, if you guys are gonna bank on me for not knowin how to make visualizations, if you could lead me to a place where i could learn how I'll give it a try.

Also i just noticed it hits on a lot of the singing parts too :-\ Maybe if you could just teach me how to modify which beats it detects I wold be very thankful.

[dirkdeftly]

Originally posted by Skandocious
... i have come accross a few visualizations in winamp 5 that accomplish this. One of the more successful ones is Reflectocube by UnConeD. Check it out. ...

...beat detection is not customized by the preset authors. You can't make your own beat detection, so Reflectocube's beat detection is no better or worse than any other avs preset ever made.

And that's got to be the first time someone's told me to "check out" an UnConeD preset rather than a whole pack - or all his packs, for that matter

[UnConeD]

Atero, you really should stop being such a nitpick. Reflectocube does have some sort of custom beat-detection for the cubesize. Slightly modified for range 0 to 1 gives you:

nv=(getspec(0,0.05,0)+nv)*.5;x=max(0,min(1,(nv-la)*2));la=nv;
wd=wd*.7+x;

It's more like a lowpass derivative filter than a 'beat-detector' but it matches beats pretty nicely.

Just because it doesn't modify the behaviour of the "on beat" box doesn't mean it's not beat-detection.

I refuse to make a subwoofer preset for (c)rap music though .

[anubis2003]

like UCD, beat detection can be custom done by certain avs presets. I have used some custom beat detection to predict the next beat, for instance, so that I could have a drumstick move around freely but still hit the drum on beat. Unfortunately I lost that preset - not that it was finished - as most of mine never are.

AVS's standard beat detection does not vary from preset to preset though, so most of your presets will react to the beat in the same way. Nothing much to do to change that - until technology advances more. Some non-realtime programs can get the bpm of a song fairly accurately, but the technology is still too slow to apply to a real-time program like AVS.

[Skandocious]

Haha, I appreciate that backup UnConeD. Although I don't appreciate your refusal to do such a small favor for a guy when you're such an obviously experienced plugin maker. By the way, keep it up, you're visualizations are definately of the better ones on winamp5. Thanx for the help guys. If anyone would be kind enough to make my day improve upon hungryskull's visual I'd appreciate it. Peace

[fragmer]

(sorry, couldn't edit my prev. post)
my preset works perfectly if you have:

AVS version 2.81b (Winamp 5.01)
fragmer_woofer.bmp in your AVS directory
ColorMap by UnConeD aka Seven Wittens
Picture-II by UnConeD aka Seven Wittens

here's a link to ColorMap: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=156222
and here's picture-II plug: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=160095
...and it's a realy nice preset actualy

[UnConeD]

I do not wear tight bodysuits which emphasize my sizable breasts while running around a lost space-ship on some tacky sci-fi show, providing a steamy masturbatory fantasy to every straight male geek around the world.

The name's Steven.

[Warrior of the Light]

That's the next typo on your name.
We could start making a list, you know.
link
Another link

[uNDefineD]

Originally posted by UnConeD
I do not wear tight bodysuits which emphasize my sizable breasts while running around a lost space-ship on some tacky sci-fi show, providing a steamy masturbatory fantasy to every straight male geek around the world.

What. The. Fuck.

[UIUC85]

I'm guessing Seven is the name of someone that does run around doing that stuff?

[Deamon]

I do know the movie Se7en, but that's not on a spaceship where UCD is a horny girl .