Justin Quits AOL/Nullsoft - Page 2

horse-fly · 23rd January 2004, 22:50

so where is he going off to? i want to follow him...

Germ · 23rd January 2004, 22:56

I'm sure when and if he starts a new project everyone will be clued in on it.

theknub · 24th January 2004, 00:05

adios justin... thanks for the good times you have allowed me to have

mc^^^^ · 24th January 2004, 00:40

justin on further projects:

"some new programs such as a free and open solution for mobile text messaging -- a kind of Gnutella spin on BlackBerry -- or some other stuff that he won't reveal."

taken frm the cool interview from rolling stone:
http://www.rollingstone.com/features...n.asp?pid=2763

DJHotIce · 24th January 2004, 02:54

What if Justin Makes his own totally redesigned player?

iomegajaz · 24th January 2004, 03:03

He could name it after what's happened to Nullsoft over the last few years, how he feels AOL has impacted on his company... he could call it, oh, I dunno... FUBAR maybe.

DragonSon · 24th January 2004, 04:04

Good luck Justin, although you most likely don't need it. You are the man.

swhite · 24th January 2004, 07:11

Thank you Justin for all the wonderful work you've done -- Winamp5 is just awesome! Beats the pants off of iTunes or WMP. I always loved Winamp from the first time I checked it out (version 1), and now it's progressed to a point where I'd recommend it as THE DEFINITVE audio player/jukebox for everyone. Have fun in your new endeavors!

Denyer · 24th January 2004, 11:56

Onwards and upwards. To infinity and beyond!

Bizzeh · 24th January 2004, 14:46

Quote:

Originally posted by dlinkwit27
I wonder what the contracts were that he was under. AOL may have put in there a clasue about not creating any "rival software" for X years, or working for a rival companyh or something to that affect.

his contract was to work for AOL for 5 years........ thats it.. (tis what im told)

and remember, justin is only 25, he has many many many coding years left ahead of him, and a fucking astounding imagionation

watadoo · 24th January 2004, 16:38

I predict that AOL will sell off Winamp within 6 months. I don't think they care diddly squat now that they've gotten what they need out of it. It's never been a revenue stream anyway and they haven't ever been able to figure out how to monetize music streaming or sales (thank God). Gettig rid of Jusin is just a punctuation point in Winamp's changing history. I'm surprised he and some of the others bothered to hang around as long a they did. They obviously didn't need the dough after the initial buyout.

Zana · 24th January 2004, 16:51

oof...

will · 24th January 2004, 17:12

Quote:

Originally posted by watadoo
I predict that AOL will sell off Winamp within 6 months. I don't think they care diddly squat now that they've gotten what they need out of it. It's never been a revenue stream anyway and they haven't ever been able to figure out how to monetize music streaming or sales (thank God). Gettig rid of Jusin is just a punctuation point in Winamp's changing history. I'm surprised he and some of the others bothered to hang around as long a they did. They obviously didn't need the dough after the initial buyout.

what would be amusing is if justin bought it back for a very small fraction of what he paid for it. But the chances of that are extreamly tiny

Rovastar · 24th January 2004, 21:29

Free as a bird

swhite · 24th January 2004, 21:42

If you don't mind me asking, why did AOL buy Nullsoft anyway? I never could figure it out.

Shayne

watadoo · 24th January 2004, 22:25

They bought Spinner and Winamp/Shoutcast to ostensibly own the streaming music biz. They did won the pole position for a while but they failed to figure out how to capitolize on their advantage -- and now Ipod and everyone else is kicking their MBA'd khaki-wearing asses. More power to Justin and Tom P. and the rest. Go build something better and have the guts to hang onto to it next. Maybe they will since they don't have to worry about the payments on their castles.

xzxzzx · 24th January 2004, 23:44

Goodbye, Justin. We can't wait for what's next.

papadoc · 24th January 2004, 23:57

I wonder if Digitally Imported is still getting
all that free bandwidth from Nullsoft/AOL,
or did they pull the plug on that?

It won't surprise me if the rest of the Nullsoft team eventually leaves too.
After they get Winamp finalized, why should they stay
under the oppressive thumbs of AOL?

Fickle · 25th January 2004, 00:32

'Bout fucking time.

I'm glad he left, now we'll see him in his pure form (again for some of you) instead of the locked and chained version we've come to respect but almost pity.

Keep truckin Justin, blaze a new trail, all those good cliche's that mean you'll kick ass wherever you go.

Merlin · 25th January 2004, 00:40

Respect.

Omega X · 25th January 2004, 01:23

Quote:

Originally posted by watadoo
I predict that AOL will sell off Winamp within 6 months. I don't think they care diddly squat now that they've gotten what they need out of it. It's never been a revenue stream anyway and they haven't ever been able to figure out how to monetize music streaming or sales (thank God). Gettig rid of Jusin is just a punctuation point in Winamp's changing history. I'm surprised he and some of the others bothered to hang around as long a they did. They obviously didn't need the dough after the initial buyout.

AOL won't be so quick to sell off Winamp. Even though its not bringing in any revenue, its a GIANT marketing tool. Ever wondered why you have to keep turning off the AOL desktop icons every time you install??

Its one of the most popular media players out there, its been featured in a ton of magazine articles. So why would they get rid of one of their signature products??

DJHotIce · 25th January 2004, 01:54

If winamp is all going downhill from here then winamp and shoutcast and other media stuff will be gone. Also Ultravox will be gone. Internet Radio will somehow come to a standstill I see it.

BTW. Will Mentioned that there is other coders that could keep Nullsoft going, so there isn't much to worry about. Right? Still it's a sad loss that Justin is gone! Let us not lose sight of that.

Fickle · 25th January 2004, 02:10

I'm having trouble understanding why we should "mourn his loss."

Loss? What the fuck? He's moving on, away from the control of AOL. Why are we sad? OH, right, cause Winamp is going to magicically become shite? No, I'm afraid I disagree. I think Winamp will be fine.

Gonzotek · 25th January 2004, 03:30

What is, is. What was, was. What will be, will be. And it will be because of people like Justin Frankel.

iomegajaz · 25th January 2004, 07:37

...and viewers like you.

whiteflip · 25th January 2004, 08:50

Woah thats the day two people were walking 5 Llamas downtown whilest I was on my way to an apointment.

I'm sad that Winamp is no longer under Justin's control.

mc^^^^ · 25th January 2004, 09:52

even if winamp5 ceased being made right now, i wouldnt care, because it does what it needs to do and more! imean, what more do we really want out of winamp that we currently don't have?

i think it was his plan to get wa5 to a finished point so he could leave.

dougieha · 25th January 2004, 10:47

All I can say is...I can't wait to see what Justin does next. Although I'm also sad that he will not be associated with Winamp anymore, I think that this is probably for the best.

More power to you...

Dougieha

slant · 12th February 2004, 04:08

This seems to wrap things up quite nicely...

im suprised aol havent taken this interview down yet, free speech i guess!

http://www.rollingstone.com/features...n.asp?pid=2763

Viper007Bond · 12th February 2004, 04:59

I'm surprised they don't tag AOL all over Winamp or buncle an AOL skin...

whiteflip · 12th February 2004, 08:27

I hate it when they buncle things.

s1138 · 12th February 2004, 15:10

i hate it even more when they bundle stuff.

CraigF · 12th February 2004, 16:09

i hate

Jedi Gemstone · 12th February 2004, 17:10

Good luck Justin dude where ever you may roam

Sandman2012 · 13th February 2004, 04:47

Quote:

Originally posted by whiteflip
I hate it when they buncle things.

http://www.hyperdictionary.com/searc...Mozilla-search

shantanu_gadgil · 28th February 2004, 11:18

Could we have a photo of Justin ?

How does he look ?

ryan · 28th February 2004, 11:33

Sandman2012 · 28th February 2004, 18:59

And here's what he'll look like as he gets older...

ShyShy · 28th February 2004, 19:44

Ahahahahahahaha... hehehehe... good one Sandman

mark · 28th February 2004, 20:02

LMAO!

24th January 2004, 00:05	#3
theknub Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Peoples Republic of Berkeley Posts: 530	adios justin... thanks for the good times you have allowed me to have When you take a hand and chop the fingers off... what do u get? That would be the knub.

24th January 2004, 02:54	#5
DJHotIce Forum Loser (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: That place I can't remember the name. Posts: 4,617	What if Justin Makes his own totally redesigned player? -DJHotIce Bounce Multimedia - Professional Web Design

24th January 2004, 03:03	#6
iomegajaz Balled and Chained Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 5,310	He could name it after what's happened to Nullsoft over the last few years, how he feels AOL has impacted on his company... he could call it, oh, I dunno... FUBAR maybe. "My heart hates uggos." –J.D.

24th January 2004, 04:04	#7
DragonSon Fears the boots Forum King Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,445	Good luck Justin, although you most likely don't need it. You are the man. Moderatio est figmentum No Idols, No Heroes, No Leaders.....Just Pure Inner Strength

24th January 2004, 21:29	#14
Rovastar Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, England Posts: 3,632	Free as a bird "Rules are for the guidance of wisemen and the obedience of fools" Visuals - Morphyre www.Morphyre.com

23rd January 2004, 22:50	#1
horse-fly Account Closed Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,360	so where is he going off to? i want to follow him...

23rd January 2004, 22:56	#2
Germ rules all things Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,149	I'm sure when and if he starts a new project everyone will be clued in on it.

24th January 2004, 00:40	#4
mc^^^^ Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Perth, Australia MSN: mcbriar@ii.net Posts: All your posts are belong to me!!!! Posts: 2,608	justin on further projects: "some new programs such as a free and open solution for mobile text messaging -- a kind of Gnutella spin on BlackBerry -- or some other stuff that he won't reveal." taken frm the cool interview from rolling stone: http://www.rollingstone.com/features...n.asp?pid=2763

24th January 2004, 07:11	#8
swhite Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 84	Thank you Justin for all the wonderful work you've done -- Winamp5 is just awesome! Beats the pants off of iTunes or WMP. I always loved Winamp from the first time I checked it out (version 1), and now it's progressed to a point where I'd recommend it as THE DEFINITVE audio player/jukebox for everyone. Have fun in your new endeavors!

24th January 2004, 11:56	#9
Denyer Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UK Posts: 18	Onwards and upwards. To infinity and beyond!

24th January 2004, 16:38	#11
watadoo JEDI MASTER Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canyon, CA with a bunch of hippies Posts: 1,336	I predict that AOL will sell off Winamp within 6 months. I don't think they care diddly squat now that they've gotten what they need out of it. It's never been a revenue stream anyway and they haven't ever been able to figure out how to monetize music streaming or sales (thank God). Gettig rid of Jusin is just a punctuation point in Winamp's changing history. I'm surprised he and some of the others bothered to hang around as long a they did. They obviously didn't need the dough after the initial buyout.

24th January 2004, 16:51	#12
Zana Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Iceland Posts: 76	oof...

24th January 2004, 21:42	#15
swhite Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 84	If you don't mind me asking, why did AOL buy Nullsoft anyway? I never could figure it out. Shayne

24th January 2004, 22:25	#16
watadoo JEDI MASTER Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canyon, CA with a bunch of hippies Posts: 1,336	They bought Spinner and Winamp/Shoutcast to ostensibly own the streaming music biz. They did won the pole position for a while but they failed to figure out how to capitolize on their advantage -- and now Ipod and everyone else is kicking their MBA'd khaki-wearing asses. More power to Justin and Tom P. and the rest. Go build something better and have the guts to hang onto to it next. Maybe they will since they don't have to worry about the payments on their castles. "Which is worse, ignorance or indifference?" "I don't know, and I don't care."

24th January 2004, 23:44	#17
xzxzzx Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,254	Goodbye, Justin. We can't wait for what's next. Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34\|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? \| Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.

24th January 2004, 23:57	#18
papadoc Comfortably Numb (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 4,619	I wonder if Digitally Imported is still getting all that free bandwidth from Nullsoft/AOL, or did they pull the plug on that? It won't surprise me if the rest of the Nullsoft team eventually leaves too. After they get Winamp finalized, why should they stay under the oppressive thumbs of AOL?

25th January 2004, 00:32	#19
Fickle Butterknife of Justice (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind you. Posts: 5,502	'Bout fucking time. I'm glad he left, now we'll see him in his pure form (again for some of you) instead of the locked and chained version we've come to respect but almost pity. Keep truckin Justin, blaze a new trail, all those good cliche's that mean you'll kick ass wherever you go. Go read a book without pictures pabook? \| Look, a blog! \| Buy Stuff I Wrote

25th January 2004, 00:40	#20
Merlin ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 4,209	Respect. as he faced the sun, he cast no shadow __________________

25th January 2004, 01:54	#22
DJHotIce Forum Loser (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: That place I can't remember the name. Posts: 4,617	If winamp is all going downhill from here then winamp and shoutcast and other media stuff will be gone. Also Ultravox will be gone. Internet Radio will somehow come to a standstill I see it. BTW. Will Mentioned that there is other coders that could keep Nullsoft going, so there isn't much to worry about. Right? Still it's a sad loss that Justin is gone! Let us not lose sight of that. -DJHotIce Bounce Multimedia - Professional Web Design

25th January 2004, 02:10	#23
Fickle Butterknife of Justice (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Behind you. Posts: 5,502	I'm having trouble understanding why we should "mourn his loss." Loss? What the fuck? He's moving on, away from the control of AOL. Why are we sad? OH, right, cause Winamp is going to magicically become shite? No, I'm afraid I disagree. I think Winamp will be fine. Go read a book without pictures pabook? \| Look, a blog! \| Buy Stuff I Wrote

25th January 2004, 03:30	#24
Gonzotek Gunslinger Join Date: May 2000 Location: Terminus Posts: 4,693	What is, is. What was, was. What will be, will be. And it will be because of people like Justin Frankel. I was away for a while. But I'm feeling much better now.

25th January 2004, 07:37	#25
iomegajaz Balled and Chained Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 5,310	...and viewers like you. "My heart hates uggos." –J.D.

25th January 2004, 08:50	#26
whiteflip Post Master General (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Seattle, Now Las Vegas Posts: 6,032	Woah thats the day two people were walking 5 Llamas downtown whilest I was on my way to an apointment. I'm sad that Winamp is no longer under Justin's control. I'm Back?

25th January 2004, 09:52	#27
mc^^^^ Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Perth, Australia MSN: mcbriar@ii.net Posts: All your posts are belong to me!!!! Posts: 2,608	even if winamp5 ceased being made right now, i wouldnt care, because it does what it needs to do and more! imean, what more do we really want out of winamp that we currently don't have? i think it was his plan to get wa5 to a finished point so he could leave.

25th January 2004, 10:47	#28
dougieha Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 236	All I can say is...I can't wait to see what Justin does next. Although I'm also sad that he will not be associated with Winamp anymore, I think that this is probably for the best. More power to you... Dougieha My skins: Sony MPFX3-WA5 (Just for WA 5.x!!) and Sony MPFX3.

12th February 2004, 04:08	#29
slant Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 6	This seems to wrap things up quite nicely... im suprised aol havent taken this interview down yet, free speech i guess! http://www.rollingstone.com/features...n.asp?pid=2763

12th February 2004, 04:59	#30
Viper007Bond Major Dude Join Date: May 2002 Location: Portland, OR Life: None Posts: 1,054	I'm surprised they don't tag AOL all over Winamp or buncle an AOL skin... - Viper007Bond \| Viper007Bond.com

12th February 2004, 08:27	#31
whiteflip Post Master General (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Seattle, Now Las Vegas Posts: 6,032	I hate it when they buncle things. I'm Back?

12th February 2004, 15:10	#32
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,936	i hate it even more when they bundle stuff.

12th February 2004, 16:09	#33
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	i hate

12th February 2004, 17:10	#34
Jedi Gemstone Major Dudette Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wales Posts: 1,526	Good luck Justin dude where ever you may roam My Website Deviantartness Yay This signature was brought to you by the colour Red and the number 14 I'm A Purple Ghetto, So Follow Me To Sanity!! Runs Off I Have No Idea Where I'm Going......

28th February 2004, 11:18	#36
shantanu_gadgil Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pune, India Posts: 73	How does Justin Frankel look ? Could we have a photo of Justin ? How does he look ?

28th February 2004, 11:33	#37
ryan not fucked, not quite. (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Missouri via Tennessee Posts: 8,813

28th February 2004, 18:59	#38
Sandman2012 <3 foobar2k (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,203	And here's what he'll look like as he gets older... pabook.net

28th February 2004, 19:44	#39
ShyShy Amazon Bush Woman Forum Queen Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sticks, Queensland Posts: 8,066	Ahahahahahahaha... hehehehe... good one Sandman