Wap

Triton4 · 29th January 2004, 05:35

What is your opinion on WAP (internet access through cellphones)?

Do you use it, if so how often? Is it worth spending for a cellphone with such a feature?

xzxzzx · 29th January 2004, 05:41

Depends. What kind of cell phone? I have a PDA phone, and WAP kicks ass, though it will read regular web sites and stuff, though my PDA phone is a weakling, so certain sites take forever to render.

Triton4 · 29th January 2004, 05:53

I recently purchased a Nokia 2100 (latest?), but I was slightly disappointed at the fact that it doesn't have WAP compatibility.

Since I am interested in WAP, I basically like to know if it's really worth going for another cellphone with WAP: how easy is it to connect, or how fast it's access is.

PDA phones are cool, but they're too little and too expensive here.

xzxzzx · 29th January 2004, 06:29

Well, WAP can be useful for limited things, like checking movie times, using a dictionary, etc, but it's not anything like surfing on a PC. I had it with another phone of mine, and I liked it a lot for checking movie times, but other than that, I didn't really use it.

Triton4 · 29th January 2004, 06:36

How much did you pay for the service?

Kaboon · 29th January 2004, 06:41

I got a Nokia 3510i and I frequently use WAP to check the free minutes on my service plan. And I also use it to warez my ringtones...

Triton4 · 29th January 2004, 06:49

You can check live football scores (EPL, Champions league etc.) too, I suppose?

xzxzzx · 29th January 2004, 07:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Triton4
How much did you pay for the service?

I don't know, nothing much, I think it was part of a package deal, or it was $5/month if you didn't have the package. Right now, I've got it for .. well, I don't remember how much, but using it doesn't count against my airtime

Triton4 · 29th January 2004, 09:18

And what about the connection speed?

Bilbo Baggins · 29th January 2004, 11:30

WAP is utter and total bollocks. What xzxzzx is talking about is GPRS internet, which is a lot different, as you can basically browse just about any webpage.

Also you pay for WAP and GPRS differnetly. WAP is generally paid for by the minute (average cost in the UK is 10p per minute), while GPRS is charged by the MB of data that you download.

Connection speeds vary depending on the network coverage, signal strength and the amount of people using the service at that time. So for instance if you wanted to check the footbal scores in the UK at 16:30 on Saturday, you woudl find it slow.

As for the Nokia 2100, don't bother with it.

Triton4 · 29th January 2004, 12:42

Hell...I didn't know GPRS and WAP were different, all this time. So that's what he meant (GPRS) when he said 'it doesn't count against my airtime'.

Thanks for the clarification, Bilbo.

xzxzzx · 29th January 2004, 17:47

Quote:

Originally posted by Bilbo Baggins
WAP is utter and total bollocks. What xzxzzx is talking about is GPRS internet, which is a lot different, as you can basically browse just about any webpage.

Also you pay for WAP and GPRS differnetly. WAP is generally paid for by the minute (average cost in the UK is 10p per minute), while GPRS is charged by the MB of data that you download.

Well load up a trout and slap me silly! I have used WAP, though, with my other cell. Still useful for checking movie times, but not much else.

Russ · 29th January 2004, 17:49

You can use WAP over GPRS though. WAP is just a protocol for writing sites for use on small screens.

Bilbo Baggins · 29th January 2004, 22:30

But its still shite

DuaneJeffers · 30th January 2004, 01:58

I think it is a great technology, if there were more resources out there for it. I would not be implementing it if there were other sites out there doing the same thing.

-Duane

Freak In A Cage · 30th January 2004, 14:41

I do use GRPS like wap but slower and only 3c per KB so after five mins you've run you bill up 56 Euro. GOD BLESS 02 & Vodafone cause I'll kill'em !!!!

eleet-2k2 · 30th January 2004, 18:03

I think there is still more to be desired from WAP before it becomes mor euseful, especially in regular cell phones. It's also quite expensive.

zootm · 30th January 2004, 18:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Russ
You can use WAP over GPRS though. WAP is just a protocol for writing sites for use on small screens.

i was going to say - GPRS and WAP are not really comparable. it's like comparing ADSL to HTTP...

White Raven · 31st January 2004, 02:44

I just use it to check my hotmail and stuff...

Too-DAMN-Much · 31st January 2004, 15:28

no cell phone of my own, but my mom's got an ok motorola company phone, kinda cool (never use the net on it much though) annoys me a little - can't browse a lot of websites and all the games and tones and other crap progs to d/l for it either cost money (subscription) or run out after x amount of days - so nah, the net on a cell phone is not really a big deal at all for me, think the d/l'ing uses airtime also

Merlin · 31st January 2004, 16:25

Well I'm trying to send/receive email on my phone, but for some reason it won't find the server.

It'll browse wap pages over gprs perfectly well, the correct settings are in place, and the account is set up to allow MMS and email, but it just keeps timing out for some reason.

MStar · 31st January 2004, 19:40

I have WAP, They charge me 3c per KB.
But the pages are so highly compressed I end up paying ~5 per month.

(Most of it spent on 56kb games)

psyfive · 31st January 2004, 20:53

Yesterday I paid off my credit card and maxed it out again. I bought a Samsung i-500. I cant seem to find the price for the internet access in my paperwork but I do know that It does have internet access and it is sweet.

Triton4 · 1st February 2004, 15:52

Quote:

Originally posted by zootm
i was going to say - GPRS and WAP are not really comparable. it's like comparing ADSL to HTTP...

So GPRS is basically a Wireless Internet Service that uses several protocols for internet access?

What are the other wireless protocols faster than WAP?

xzxzzx · 1st February 2004, 20:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Triton4
So GPRS is basically a Wireless Internet Service that uses several protocols for internet access?

What are the other wireless protocols faster than WAP?

GPRS is a connection type. Physical. Desktop Examples: Dialup, DSL, Cable modem, T1.

WAP is a protocol type. Desktop Examples: HTTP, FTP.

WAP usually uses WML. Desktop Examples: HTML, CSS, Flash.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireles...ation_protocol

Bilbo Baggins · 1st February 2004, 21:08

WinWap is a windows bases WAP browser, negating the need for phones

29th January 2004, 05:35	#1
Triton4 Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 1,307	Wap What is your opinion on WAP (internet access through cellphones)? Do you use it, if so how often? Is it worth spending for a cellphone with such a feature?

29th January 2004, 05:41	#2
xzxzzx Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,267	Depends. What kind of cell phone? I have a PDA phone, and WAP kicks ass, though it will read regular web sites and stuff, though my PDA phone is a weakling, so certain sites take forever to render. Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34\|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? \| Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.

29th January 2004, 06:29	#4
xzxzzx Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,267	Well, WAP can be useful for limited things, like checking movie times, using a dictionary, etc, but it's not anything like surfing on a PC. I had it with another phone of mine, and I liked it a lot for checking movie times, but other than that, I didn't really use it. Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34\|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? \| Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.

29th January 2004, 06:41	#6
Kaboon Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,485	I got a Nokia 3510i and I frequently use WAP to check the free minutes on my service plan. And I also use it to warez my ringtones... berkenpi.es

29th January 2004, 17:49	#13
Russ Mostly Harmless (Alumni) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: UK Posts: 2,319	You can use WAP over GPRS though. WAP is just a protocol for writing sites for use on small screens. For long you live and high you fly, but only if you ride the tide, and balanced on the biggest wave you race towards an early grave. \|Musicbrainz\|Audioscrobbler\|last.fm\|

29th January 2004, 05:53	#3
Triton4 Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 1,307	I recently purchased a Nokia 2100 (latest?), but I was slightly disappointed at the fact that it doesn't have WAP compatibility. Since I am interested in WAP, I basically like to know if it's really worth going for another cellphone with WAP: how easy is it to connect, or how fast it's access is. PDA phones are cool, but they're too little and too expensive here.

29th January 2004, 06:36	#5
Triton4 Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 1,307	How much did you pay for the service?

29th January 2004, 06:49	#7
Triton4 Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 1,307	You can check live football scores (EPL, Champions league etc.) too, I suppose?

29th January 2004, 09:18	#9
Triton4 Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 1,307	And what about the connection speed?

29th January 2004, 11:30	#10
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,231	WAP is utter and total bollocks. What xzxzzx is talking about is GPRS internet, which is a lot different, as you can basically browse just about any webpage. Also you pay for WAP and GPRS differnetly. WAP is generally paid for by the minute (average cost in the UK is 10p per minute), while GPRS is charged by the MB of data that you download. Connection speeds vary depending on the network coverage, signal strength and the amount of people using the service at that time. So for instance if you wanted to check the footbal scores in the UK at 16:30 on Saturday, you woudl find it slow. As for the Nokia 2100, don't bother with it.

29th January 2004, 12:42	#11
Triton4 Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CA Posts: 1,307	Hell...I didn't know GPRS and WAP were different, all this time. So that's what he meant (GPRS) when he said 'it doesn't count against my airtime'. Thanks for the clarification, Bilbo.

29th January 2004, 22:30	#14
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,231	But its still shite

30th January 2004, 01:58	#15
DuaneJeffers Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 1,776	I think it is a great technology, if there were more resources out there for it. I would not be implementing it if there were other sites out there doing the same thing. -Duane Website Yeah, that's pretty much it. :-\

30th January 2004, 14:41	#16
Freak In A Cage Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 84	I do use GRPS like wap but slower and only 3c per KB so after five mins you've run you bill up 56 Euro. GOD BLESS 02 & Vodafone cause I'll kill'em !!!!

30th January 2004, 18:03	#17
eleet-2k2 Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mobil Ave. Posts: 5,381	I think there is still more to be desired from WAP before it becomes mor euseful, especially in regular cell phones. It's also quite expensive. "Welcome to the Island of people who know too much."..."Did you really think balloons would stop him?!" See what I'm listening too.

31st January 2004, 02:44	#19
White Raven Little Winged One Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada, now UK Posts: 4,152	I just use it to check my hotmail and stuff... just as feathery as ever

31st January 2004, 15:28	#20
Too-DAMN-Much The Big Bad Boots (Forum King) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 420 Big Buds Way Posts: 3,951	no cell phone of my own, but my mom's got an ok motorola company phone, kinda cool (never use the net on it much though) annoys me a little - can't browse a lot of websites and all the games and tones and other crap progs to d/l for it either cost money (subscription) or run out after x amount of days - so nah, the net on a cell phone is not really a big deal at all for me, think the d/l'ing uses airtime also I hate everyone, so you don't have to.

31st January 2004, 16:25	#21
Merlin ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 4,209	Well I'm trying to send/receive email on my phone, but for some reason it won't find the server. It'll browse wap pages over gprs perfectly well, the correct settings are in place, and the account is set up to allow MMS and email, but it just keeps timing out for some reason. as he faced the sun, he cast no shadow __________________

31st January 2004, 19:40	#22
MStar Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hardcore Heaven Posts: 1,491	I have WAP, They charge me 3c per KB. But the pages are so highly compressed I end up paying ~5 per month. (Most of it spent on 56kb games)

31st January 2004, 20:53	#23
psyfive Forum King Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,524	Yesterday I paid off my credit card and maxed it out again. I bought a Samsung i-500. I cant seem to find the price for the internet access in my paperwork but I do know that It does have internet access and it is sweet.

1st February 2004, 21:08	#26
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,231	WinWap is a windows bases WAP browser, negating the need for phones

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