Audiorealm?

ekitten · 13th February 2004, 05:48

What's the deal with Audiorealm? Is anybody here successfully using them for licensing their webcast? Rants/Raves?

FesterHead · 13th February 2004, 15:05

What are your expectations?

MegaRock · 13th February 2004, 22:44

SWCast.Net also offers licensing.

Both places have rules in which you can broadcast and things you can and can't do which mostly exist to protect them and keep the licensing affordable.

Irregardless of where, unless you license yourself you will likely have to play by someone elses rules in order to be licensed.

ruffdawg · 14th February 2004, 17:05

Boooo.. I play by my rules!

ekitten · 14th February 2004, 17:31

Expectations (Festerhead): I'm just looking for refuge from RIAA. I'll b#tch and moan with the rest of you about my thoughts on the DMCA, but being an adult now, I simply can't afford the liability.

I was looking at audiorealm as a place to be legal for little $ up front, but it occurs to me that if my listeners are willing to fork out $5/month, I'd really like to pocket more than $1 of that (that's what AR gives back). Heck, even the $5 won't be enough to cover licensing and hosting costs. And anyway, why should my listeners pay $5/month when they can listen to the non-RIAA-compliant streams coming out of Taiwan? Yeah, looks like Audiorealm's heart is in the right place, but... I just hope they can save all the penniless hobbyists with their lo-cost turn-key offering when RIAA starts enforcing the DMCA. But for those of us hoping to pay for the broadcast with voluntary funds (affiliates? advertising? donations?), it just doesn't seem like the right solution.

Comments?

DJ Killer · 14th February 2004, 17:43

right. hell my station got a $20 donation, and $3 so far from advertising. woo.. $5/month is too expensive. let riaa attempt to induce their DMCA fury, but we are in compliance with the DMCA, you are referring to Royalties with Webcasters, in which should be eliminated, and the Record Industry needs to find alternative sources of revenue.

ekitten · 15th February 2004, 00:04

You're in compliance with DMCA? I noticed that you play Aerosmith - are you part of a JPL or did you get "expressed written permission", or some other means to be compliant?

Thanks for the help!

DJ Killer · 15th February 2004, 02:33

Again, the DMCA is NOT what says you need to be licenses. There is a separate law, so please dont refer to the DMCA, which was meant to protect IP.

As our site says, Music Independently Licensed I cannot go further into that statement.

MegaRock · 15th February 2004, 07:10

Interesting thing about royalties is in reading all the licensing crap I've never saw one thing about the penalties of not being licensed. Anyone else seen anything of the such?

I was even told by one licensing organization (ASCAP) that in the case of an unlicensed broadcast they would contact them an 'offer' a license.

Are there any defined penalties that anyone has seen? Just curious.

DJ Killer · 15th February 2004, 14:22

nope not me. I havent even gotten any 'offers' for licenses yet and they have been on my site.

I think all they can try to do is induce the DMCA saying that your "pirating music" but the smarter hosts will see what your doing (unless they are stream host themselves) and tell them take a hike.

13th February 2004, 05:48	#1
ekitten Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 53	Audiorealm? What's the deal with Audiorealm? Is anybody here successfully using them for licensing their webcast? Rants/Raves?

13th February 2004, 22:44	#3
MegaRock Forum King Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Inside my water bong Posts: 6,775	SWCast.Net also offers licensing. Both places have rules in which you can broadcast and things you can and can't do which mostly exist to protect them and keep the licensing affordable. Irregardless of where, unless you license yourself you will likely have to play by someone elses rules in order to be licensed. 1001. FM - Megarock Radio - St. Louis Since 1998! Tune In Now! Corporate Radio Sucks! No suits, all rock!

14th February 2004, 17:05	#4
ruffdawg Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada (Sauga Represent!) Posts: 565	Boooo.. I play by my rules! Playin' the best classic rock trax www.ruffdawgradio.com

14th February 2004, 17:43	#6
DJ Killer Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: O-Town FLA Posts: 1,357	right. hell my station got a $20 donation, and $3 so far from advertising. woo.. $5/month is too expensive. let riaa attempt to induce their DMCA fury, but we are in compliance with the DMCA, you are referring to Royalties with Webcasters, in which should be eliminated, and the Record Industry needs to find alternative sources of revenue. I Make. Perform. Mix. Play. Music.

15th February 2004, 02:33	#8
DJ Killer Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: O-Town FLA Posts: 1,357	Again, the DMCA is NOT what says you need to be licenses. There is a separate law, so please dont refer to the DMCA, which was meant to protect IP. As our site says, Music Independently Licensed I cannot go further into that statement. I Make. Perform. Mix. Play. Music.

13th February 2004, 15:05	#2
FesterHead Alumni Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 14,109	What are your expectations?

14th February 2004, 17:31	#5
ekitten Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 53	Expectations (Festerhead): I'm just looking for refuge from RIAA. I'll b#tch and moan with the rest of you about my thoughts on the DMCA, but being an adult now, I simply can't afford the liability. I was looking at audiorealm as a place to be legal for little $ up front, but it occurs to me that if my listeners are willing to fork out $5/month, I'd really like to pocket more than $1 of that (that's what AR gives back). Heck, even the $5 won't be enough to cover licensing and hosting costs. And anyway, why should my listeners pay $5/month when they can listen to the non-RIAA-compliant streams coming out of Taiwan? Yeah, looks like Audiorealm's heart is in the right place, but... I just hope they can save all the penniless hobbyists with their lo-cost turn-key offering when RIAA starts enforcing the DMCA. But for those of us hoping to pay for the broadcast with voluntary funds (affiliates? advertising? donations?), it just doesn't seem like the right solution. Comments?

15th February 2004, 00:04	#7
ekitten Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 53	You're in compliance with DMCA? I noticed that you play Aerosmith - are you part of a JPL or did you get "expressed written permission", or some other means to be compliant? Thanks for the help!

15th February 2004, 07:10	#9
MegaRock Forum King Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Inside my water bong Posts: 6,775	Interesting thing about royalties is in reading all the licensing crap I've never saw one thing about the penalties of not being licensed. Anyone else seen anything of the such? I was even told by one licensing organization (ASCAP) that in the case of an unlicensed broadcast they would contact them an 'offer' a license. Are there any defined penalties that anyone has seen? Just curious. 1001. FM - Megarock Radio - St. Louis Since 1998! Tune In Now! Corporate Radio Sucks! No suits, all rock!

15th February 2004, 14:22	#10
DJ Killer Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: O-Town FLA Posts: 1,357	nope not me. I havent even gotten any 'offers' for licenses yet and they have been on my site. I think all they can try to do is induce the DMCA saying that your "pirating music" but the smarter hosts will see what your doing (unless they are stream host themselves) and tell them take a hike. I Make. Perform. Mix. Play. Music.

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