Things that make you go hmm...

JRSellers · 9th October 2004, 17:13

I've noticed that when I'm listening to a song using Winamp while browsing these forums, the song will randomly skip - just for a fraction of a second. This seems to be memory related.

I would not have thought that remote forums would use much memory on my PC.

Total

ness.

shakey_snake · 9th October 2004, 17:22

If your using Firefox, look out for the massive Mem leak.

deeder7001 · 9th October 2004, 17:24

i actually don't have that problem on my computer and i'm using firefox. and my computer's about 6 years old.

nybergh · 9th October 2004, 17:28

Quote:

Originally posted by shakey_snake
If your using Firefox, look out for the massive Mem leak.

What's that memory leak like?

shakey_snake · 9th October 2004, 17:43

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=141658

JRSellers · 9th October 2004, 17:51

Quote:

Originally posted by deeder7001
i actually don't have that problem on my computer and i'm using firefox. and my computer's about 6 years old.

Do you listen to your MP3s/WMAs while you're browsing?

deeder7001 · 9th October 2004, 18:08

yep. if i'm on the computer there's music playing. i don't use WMA though.

JRSellers · 9th October 2004, 20:26

Quote:

Originally posted by JRSellers
I've noticed that when I'm listening to a song using Winamp while browsing these forums, the song will randomly skip - just for a fraction of a second. This seems to be memory related.

I would not have thought that remote forums would use much memory on my PC.

Total ness.

Doesn't seem to be a problem with Internet Explorer (so far).

deeder7001 · 9th October 2004, 20:49

i just remembered that winamp would skip a little bit when i started firefox. i fixed it by manually setting the virtual memory. that was before i got my 80gb HD(ATA 100). now it doesn't skip at all.

ryan · 9th October 2004, 20:51

I don't notice any problems with firefox unless I leave it inactive for a long time.

JRSellers · 9th October 2004, 20:58

Quote:

Originally posted by deeder7001
i just remembered that winamp would skip a little bit when i started firefox. i fixed it by manually setting the virtual memory.

I'll try that. What'd you set it to?

deeder7001 · 9th October 2004, 21:17

i set it to 192mb. i have 128mb of physical RAM. stuff also sped up a bit too.

kingo'mountain · 9th October 2004, 21:20

Quote:

Originally posted by ryan
I don't notice any problems with firefox unless I leave it inactive for a long time.

thats your memory leak

ryan · 9th October 2004, 21:21

I know, I was just saying. It doesn't affect me until I leave firefox idle.

JRSellers · 9th October 2004, 21:37

Quote:

Originally posted by deeder7001
i set it to 192mb.

So far, that seems to work (my PCs RAM is 256MB). Good thing too. I don't really care for IE.

whiteflip · 10th October 2004, 04:18

if your computer is old your browser could be taking up all the bandwidth of your bus causing winamp to get starved for attention. increase the processor priority or the buffers and see if that helps. if it doesn then like get a new bus? i dunno.

deeder7001 · 10th October 2004, 04:22

@ JRSellers

what are you system specs?

JRSellers · 10th October 2004, 17:28

Quote:

Originally posted by deeder7001
what are you system specs?

Not sure exactly which spec you need, so here goes it:

Intel Celeron 1.7 GHz Processor
Physical RAM: 256MB
Current Windows XP Swapfile Size: 1 92MB ( manually set)
Browser: Mozilla Firefox 1.0 Preview Release

whiteflip · 10th October 2004, 18:13

you dont really need to set your swap file manually with xp. i dont know if it would offer any benefits. if you had a shit load of ram you could make a ram disk that loads on start up of say 1gb or 700mb and set your temporary files dir and swap file directory to that. thats something i hope to do someday. still i dont know if setting a fixed value for the swap file does anything for xp or not.

deeder7001 · 10th October 2004, 18:13

sometimes if the swapfile gets too big the system will slow down to a crawl. that happened to me once when i was letting windows manage the swapfile(took 300mb). 192mb seems to be optimal for most newer systems.

whiteflip · 10th October 2004, 19:59

I have no idea what to keep my swap file at. I have 320mb of pc100 ram running at 66mhz. I have windows on a slow 5400 (i think...) 6gb hard drive with a i dunno chache size and ample free space. I have a 300 mhz PII. Right now my swap is at 160mb so says rainmeter.

kingo'mountain · 10th October 2004, 20:21

offtopic: ryan... is your CT suggesting that you changed your nick?

deeder7001 · 10th October 2004, 20:23

i don't think windows would need much more than 200mb of RAM overall. earlier my system was using 180+mb of RAM (i had a lot of stuff open) and i only have 128mb of PC100. i set the swapfile to 192mb so it would run a bit more quickly, so windows doesn't have to resize it all the time. slows the system down when windows resizes the swapfile.

JRSellers · 10th October 2004, 20:33

Quote:

Originally posted by deeder7001
sometimes if the swapfile gets too big the system will slow down to a crawl. that happened to me once when i was letting windows manage the swapfile(took 300mb). 192mb seems to be optimal for most newer systems.

Interesting.

OT Note: It'd be great if there were an option for a "printer friendly" version of this message (like in the PCQandA forum), so I could print it w/o having to go thru the cut 'n' paste routine.

SSJ4 Gogitta · 10th October 2004, 20:50

Arsenio Hall makes me go "hmm".

kingo'mountain · 11th October 2004, 06:40

a good cake makes me go..... "mmmmmmmm"

MStar · 11th October 2004, 07:55

I can't believe noone's mentioned this:

Increase the buffer in winamp.
Prefs > Output > Directsound > Buffer

Increase Buffer and prebuffer.

kingo'mountain · 11th October 2004, 16:13

isnt buffering supposed to use more RAM?

deeder7001 · 11th October 2004, 16:18

Quote:

Originally posted by MStar
I can't believe noone's mentioned this:

Increase the buffer in winamp.
Prefs > Output > Directsound > Buffer

Increase Buffer and prebuffer.

in my experience that doesn't work that great. i don't know about it taking more RAM but i know it takes longer for songs to begin playback. manually setting the swapfile worked for me.

k_rock923 · 11th October 2004, 16:22

there is a printable version

CaboWaboAddict · 11th October 2004, 17:31

An unexpected BJ makes me go "HUH? Mmmmmmmm....."

deeder7001 · 11th October 2004, 18:13

the thing making me go "hmm" is that MSN messenger won't sign me on.

JRSellers · 11th October 2004, 18:33

Quote:

Originally posted by deeder7001
in my experience that doesn't work that great. i don't know about it taking more RAM but i know it takes longer for songs to begin playback.

I increased my buffers to the max. I also enabled the CPU control, but doesn't seem to help or hurt.

deeder7001 · 11th October 2004, 19:06

on older systems it hurts a little but sometimes helps a lot.

MonKeyRum · 11th October 2004, 19:18

Quote:

Originally posted by deeder7001
the thing making me go "hmm" is that MSN messenger won't sign me on.

Might be part of that W32/Funner.worm virus floating about. I hear lots of people having troubles with msn messenger cause of it

deeder7001 · 11th October 2004, 19:20

is it on my computer or is the msn messenger server infected with that? messenger was working fine untill they did some maintainence the other night, then this started happening. i'll probably do a scan just to be safe.

MonKeyRum · 11th October 2004, 19:23

I was told the worm drops several copies of itself into the Windows and Windows system folder, and adds itself to the startup in the reg. And then it's suppose to propagate by sending itself to all the members of a user's MSN Messanger contact list.

heres the info from NAI

http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_128750.htm

Another asshole to thank for some wonderful programming!!!

JRSellers · 11th October 2004, 19:40

Quote:

Originally posted by k_rock923
there is a printable version

That's for the entire thread, not individual messages.

9th October 2004, 17:13	#1
JRSellers Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,107	Things that make you go hmm... I've noticed that when I'm listening to a song using Winamp while browsing these forums, the song will randomly skip - just for a fraction of a second. This seems to be memory related. I would not have thought that remote forums would use much memory on my PC. Total ness.

9th October 2004, 17:22	#2
shakey_snake Forum Domo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Everyone, get over here for the picture! Posts: 4,313	If your using Firefox, look out for the massive Mem leak. elevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladylevitateme

9th October 2004, 17:24	#3
deeder7001 Jesus Freak (Forum King) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 5,560	i actually don't have that problem on my computer and i'm using firefox. and my computer's about 6 years old. There is no sig.

9th October 2004, 17:43	#5
shakey_snake Forum Domo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Everyone, get over here for the picture! Posts: 4,313	http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=141658 elevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladylevitateme

9th October 2004, 18:08	#7
deeder7001 Jesus Freak (Forum King) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 5,560	yep. if i'm on the computer there's music playing. i don't use WMA though. There is no sig.

9th October 2004, 20:49	#9
deeder7001 Jesus Freak (Forum King) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 5,560	i just remembered that winamp would skip a little bit when i started firefox. i fixed it by manually setting the virtual memory. that was before i got my 80gb HD(ATA 100). now it doesn't skip at all. There is no sig.

9th October 2004, 20:51	#10
ryan not fucked, not quite. (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Missouri via Tennessee Posts: 8,813	I don't notice any problems with firefox unless I leave it inactive for a long time.

9th October 2004, 21:17	#12
deeder7001 Jesus Freak (Forum King) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 5,560	i set it to 192mb. i have 128mb of physical RAM. stuff also sped up a bit too. There is no sig.

9th October 2004, 21:21	#14
ryan not fucked, not quite. (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Missouri via Tennessee Posts: 8,813	I know, I was just saying. It doesn't affect me until I leave firefox idle.

10th October 2004, 04:18	#16
whiteflip Post Master General (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Seattle, Now Las Vegas Posts: 6,032	if your computer is old your browser could be taking up all the bandwidth of your bus causing winamp to get starved for attention. increase the processor priority or the buffers and see if that helps. if it doesn then like get a new bus? i dunno. I'm Back?

10th October 2004, 04:22	#17
deeder7001 Jesus Freak (Forum King) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 5,560	@ JRSellers what are you system specs? There is no sig.

10th October 2004, 18:13	#19
whiteflip Post Master General (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Seattle, Now Las Vegas Posts: 6,032	you dont really need to set your swap file manually with xp. i dont know if it would offer any benefits. if you had a shit load of ram you could make a ram disk that loads on start up of say 1gb or 700mb and set your temporary files dir and swap file directory to that. thats something i hope to do someday. still i dont know if setting a fixed value for the swap file does anything for xp or not. I'm Back?

10th October 2004, 19:59	#21
whiteflip Post Master General (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Seattle, Now Las Vegas Posts: 6,032	I have no idea what to keep my swap file at. I have 320mb of pc100 ram running at 66mhz. I have windows on a slow 5400 (i think...) 6gb hard drive with a i dunno chache size and ample free space. I have a 300 mhz PII. Right now my swap is at 160mb so says rainmeter. I'm Back?

10th October 2004, 20:21	#22
kingo'mountain in need of banned aid Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: over the rainb... uh... nevermind Posts: 2,716	offtopic: ryan... is your CT suggesting that you changed your nick?

10th October 2004, 20:23	#23
deeder7001 Jesus Freak (Forum King) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 5,560	i don't think windows would need much more than 200mb of RAM overall. earlier my system was using 180+mb of RAM (i had a lot of stuff open) and i only have 128mb of PC100. i set the swapfile to 192mb so it would run a bit more quickly, so windows doesn't have to resize it all the time. slows the system down when windows resizes the swapfile. There is no sig.

10th October 2004, 20:50	#25
SSJ4 Gogitta Followed by Gnomes (Forum King) Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: West Virginia Googolplex: 10^10¹°° FB:/SSJ4.DominusDeus DeviantArt: DominusDeus XboX GT: A Wild Meeseeks Playstation 4: DominusDeus Posts: 7,162	Arsenio Hall makes me go "hmm".

11th October 2004, 06:40	#26
kingo'mountain in need of banned aid Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: over the rainb... uh... nevermind Posts: 2,716	a good cake makes me go..... "mmmmmmmm"

11th October 2004, 07:55	#27
MStar Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hardcore Heaven Posts: 1,491	I can't believe noone's mentioned this: Increase the buffer in winamp. Prefs > Output > Directsound > Buffer Increase Buffer and prebuffer.

11th October 2004, 16:13	#28
kingo'mountain in need of banned aid Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: over the rainb... uh... nevermind Posts: 2,716	isnt buffering supposed to use more RAM?

11th October 2004, 17:31	#31
CaboWaboAddict Forum Sot (Major Dude) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Marietta, Ga. U.S.A. Posts: 3,916	An unexpected BJ makes me go "HUH? Mmmmmmmm....." Idiot's Advocate My site (under construction)

11th October 2004, 18:13	#32
deeder7001 Jesus Freak (Forum King) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 5,560	the thing making me go "hmm" is that MSN messenger won't sign me on. There is no sig.

11th October 2004, 19:06	#34
deeder7001 Jesus Freak (Forum King) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 5,560	on older systems it hurts a little but sometimes helps a lot. There is no sig.

11th October 2004, 19:20	#36
deeder7001 Jesus Freak (Forum King) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 5,560	is it on my computer or is the msn messenger server infected with that? messenger was working fine untill they did some maintainence the other night, then this started happening. i'll probably do a scan just to be safe. There is no sig.

11th October 2004, 19:23	#37
MonKeyRum Major Dude Join Date: May 2004 Location: The North Posts: 859	I was told the worm drops several copies of itself into the Windows and Windows system folder, and adds itself to the startup in the reg. And then it's suppose to propagate by sending itself to all the members of a user's MSN Messanger contact list. heres the info from NAI http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_128750.htm Another asshole to thank for some wonderful programming!!! Suburbia: The place where they clear down trees and then name roads after them

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