Old 1st December 2004, 10:02   #81
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I want to know, is the media library list for nsv coming back again, are is he forever offline? And when it is coming back, take this along time work are is it come back before X-Mas????? Because the list isn't this long time gone.

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Old 1st December 2004, 10:05   #82
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I want to know, is the media library list for nsv coming back again, are is he forever offline? And when it is coming back, take this along time work are is it come back before X-Mas????? Because the list isn't this long time gone.

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have you read the whole thread?
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Old 1st December 2004, 10:06   #83
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yes i did read the whole thread, but there is nothing what explain it all. and they didn't tell if the list is coming up again.


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Old 1st December 2004, 10:17   #84
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it'll be back up soon
it won't stay like this forever
Carper-Fisher, I think this is pretty clear statement ;-)

plus, CraigF has explained the issue pretty much clearely too.
There is no exact date/time when it will be fixed. People tend to think that if something breaks unexpectedly, tech guys immediately know what's up and exactly know how long will it take to fix it. That's not true, trust me :-)
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Old 1st December 2004, 10:20   #85
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thank you, because every one need this list:-)


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Old 1st December 2004, 10:56   #86
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CraigF,

I understand your point. Let us know if you have any other ideas. We'll help you pursue them.

Doing nothing is not an option.

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well, the only thing you could do is attempt to get your plugin distributed with winamp. but since it competes with nullsoft's own YP, AND offers content which aol/nullsoft would not be in control of, the chances of that happening are slim to nill.

otherwise, you're stuck with word of mouth.

Like me and kxrm have said, there isnt any reason for you not to do it, just dont have misgivings of what it would solve.

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Old 1st December 2004, 21:03   #88
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From the description of the hacking that happened, I'm expecting that it will be really difficult to fix the problem, if it's even possible.

This looks like a sophisticated attack, exploiting client computers with attack bots.

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I had an idea for checking streams a few days ago, probably a stupid one but here goes.

Why not make every winamp client out there check streams? Sort of like a huge botnet of winamp clients, checking streams. That way there isn't a single point of failure, plus the workload is distributed, and the bandwidth becomes aggragated.

There could be 2 YP's. One yp of "approved streams" and another YP of "unnaproved streams" clients would get their work unit from the unnaproved stream, check it out, if it's good, move it to the approved stream list.
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t0qer, hacked clients can then be used to cause an even bigger mess. Besides, the bottle neck has always been the shoutcast server, not the bot.
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Old 1st December 2004, 22:36   #91
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t0qer, hacked clients can then be used to cause an even bigger mess. Besides, the bottle neck has always been the shoutcast server, not the bot.
I think that this is a right observation. Because I think so too, a bot could not be hacked, but a server could be hacked, and the client could be. So the server and the client must be better protected for all the mess attacks. I wait what happens now and I hope it is very soon all solved.

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Old 1st December 2004, 22:45   #92
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*use the alternate yp thread for this crap
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DreadSusna, one of the main reasons I get frustrated with you is this: You fail to follow orders.

I specifically stated earlier in the thread to take ALL "Alternative YP" talk to the appropriate thread, to keep it in one place and not spread it out over 2+ threads. You, however, agreed, then never followed it. You keep responding in here, and your last post was a perfect example. You responded to craigf, then decided to add a buttload of information on "your plans for the alternative yp", which would better go in the thread titled "Alternative YP".

I would like to have you on the project, but with this continual blatant disrepsecting of my request, I do not know if you would actually help instead of hurt the project by going off on tangents.

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t0qer, hacked clients can then be used to cause an even bigger mess. Besides, the bottle neck has always been the shoutcast server, not the bot.
No, the problem is on Nullsoft's end, they could easily integrate the features of the bot I wrote a while back into the add script.
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No, the problem is on Nullsoft's end, they could easily integrate the features of the bot I wrote a while back into the add script.
Yes. Are you sure you quoted the right post?


ps. shoutcast server = yp.shoutcast.com etc.
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when you say shoutcast server the usual assumption is you mean the DNAS. Otherwise most refer to yp.shoutcast.com as the yp
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I miss the http trick, Used it well with no weirdness or malice, it just pulled up the website and all was fine. didnt sell or solicit a thing... oh well....
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Doesn't it suck when fuckers abuse a privelige and get it taken away from everyone?
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Doesn't it suck when fuckers abuse a privelige and get it taken away from everyone?
It sucks hard.
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Old 2nd December 2004, 12:52   #101
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dreadsusna,

I have the dll installed for your yp, but nothing is showing up in my Media Library. It also doesn't show up in my plugins section of preferences. Anybody else getting this issue?
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I have the dll installed for your yp, but nothing is showing up in my Media Library. It also doesn't show up in my plugins section of preferences. Anybody else getting this issue?
Yes, same story here...
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Old 2nd December 2004, 14:09   #103
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I found a bug please standby.

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A direct link to the plugin

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Old 3rd December 2004, 09:49   #106
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Now this is taking too long :-(
I see that the YP doesn't return an error now, instead looks like it worked as normal, but no listing in the directory...
Is there still no timeframe of when it could be back up (if it will be)? After one week of work there should be at least some vision :-)
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Old 3rd December 2004, 09:55   #107
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there is, for us, it's patience. Yes, they are working on it.
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Old 3rd December 2004, 17:50   #108
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we will be patience and hopefull, but we hope we haven't to wait to long, before everything is back to normal.

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Old 3rd December 2004, 20:58   #109
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well we'll wait...i donno i'll wait personally ...instead of searching for alternatives....couse 1st hard to figure it out the new one 2'nd who said it's gonna be more accurate...i donno man the hole concept is messed up already...porn i'm all set with watchin' it by dvd or downloading from the internet...but when it start interupting the others i think it's gettin a LITTLE too much...F!@#@ that S@#@ yo i want the damn TV.....
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...another one who doesn't get the point...
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Old 4th December 2004, 07:30   #112
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Hmm I see new Winamp has been released...
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=200927
Maybe it's related to the solving of this issue? :-) Because I've heard before that they're not working on winamp anymore and there will be no new versions...
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Old 4th December 2004, 07:37   #113
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that's inaccurate, winamp is still being maintained and this update has little to do with this issue from what I understand.
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Old 4th December 2004, 07:41   #114
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that's inaccurate, winamp is still being maintained and this update has little to do with this issue from what I understand.
Oh I see. It was just a thought while waiting for the directory to be back :-)
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if anything, the new winamp release sadly diverted resources from a YP fix. hopefully things will progress quicker now.

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I don't understand, if work was to start monday, and it's SATURDAY, where is the work to show? the list is now gone, won't even load. Not to be critical, but it gets annoying, so many things have done this, like cokestudios for example (i was only interested in their "cokestudios 2"). It was said to come out July something, and so i was home that day and went on, and it was a half hour after it was supposed to open, and it was closed. I came back the next day, and it was still closed. To this day, they opened it for maybe 24 hours combined since they said they would open it and ONLY as a "BETA" version. something as big as coke doing this? well i know you guys probably know a LITTLE more than them but seriously. And i agree with them, i think your alternate YP is bull ^_^
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And i agree with them, i think your alternate YP is bull ^_^
i bet you go hang around pepsi and dance and sing about "coke is superior, you're all lame, alternatives suck, please gimme another bottle to suck on"

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Old 4th December 2004, 16:03   #118
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once in the alternative yp thread is enough, thanks.

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once in the alternative yp thread is enough, thanks.
jesus dreadsusna, i tell you to post in the alternative yp thread, kxrm tells you and edits your post to prove his point, and you STILL CONTINUE TO SPAM OTHER THREADS

You're probably going to get banned for it one of these days, and that's a fact.

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