need some more html help again

squakMix · 7th January 2005, 01:36

This works like it should in IE, not right in firefox. The middle table (with the banner and inside lines) doesnt extend 100% high in firefox.

<html>
<head>
<meta link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="name of the css.css" />
<style type=text/css>






------!>#FF0000
</style>

<title>
bleh
</title>
</head>

<body bgcolor=#808080 Topmargin=0 bottomMargin=0 leftmargin=0 rightMargin=0>

<table width="100%" height="100%" border=1 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>
<tr>
<td>

asd

</td>
<td>

<!=======================================================!>
<center>
<table id="outside_lines" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 height="100%" width=550 border=1>
<tr>
<td>

<table id="banner_capsule_rightLine" width=87 height=100% cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>
<tr>
<td valign=bottom>

<table id="banner_capsule" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>
<tr>
<td><img src="http://deborahlundgren.com/bumrush/files/Banner_bumrush_1.png"></td>
</tr>
</table>

<td>
</tr>
</table>

</td>
</tr>
</table>

</center>
<!==================================================!>

</td>
</tr>
</table>

</body>

</html>

Thanks for any help

missyob · 7th January 2005, 01:42

I dont know crap about firefox but

<td>

<!=======================================================!>
<center>
<table id="outside_lines" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 height="100%" width=550 border=1>
<tr>
<td>

*** Try closing the <tr and td> tags then reopening them again just below. See if that makes a difference

Just a shot in the dark.
~ Missy

EDIT I think I found it ---- Look at the "" quote marks around the 100% on the table below you dont have the quotes. I cant remember if you need quotes or not-- It has been a while since I have coded.

squakMix · 7th January 2005, 01:46

Nope

.

Thanks for the shot though - I appreciate people are actually trying to help

jerimiah40 · 7th January 2005, 01:54

Don't see how this would fix anything, but HTML has been known to do some pretty strange things. IN the red one, you have the width after the hight, but in the rest, you have it the other way around. I know that it sounds like it won't do anything, but you never know.

Other than the quotes, like Missy mentioned, I don't see anything else different

squakMix · 7th January 2005, 01:58

Ok, I'll try re arranging the code, and make sure that quotes are around all "100%"s in the code. Brb to report.

squakMix · 7th January 2005, 01:59

Neither of them worked.

missyob · 7th January 2005, 02:02

I just played with it with my website in a testbed. I am too tired to think correctly.

Try going to http://www.draac.com/ Great site for html hon.
I am sorry I could not help more.

~ Missy

shakey_snake · 7th January 2005, 02:05

http://validator.w3.org/

16 errors with an added doctype declaration.
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">

missyob · 7th January 2005, 02:08

<table id="banner_capsule_rightLine" width=87 height=100% cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>
<tr>
<td valign=bottom>

You did not close out your table tags here. Try closing out the table before the new one. Hopefully this is your answer.

<table id="banner_capsule" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>
<tr>
<td><img src="http://deborahlundgren.com/bumrush/files/Banner_bumrush_1.png"></td>
</tr>
</table>

Try the above. I just noticed that. I am so tired, going to bed now.

~ Missy

squakMix · 7th January 2005, 02:47

Quote:

Originally posted by missyob
<table id="banner_capsule_rightLine" width=87 height=100% cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>
<tr>
<td valign=bottom>

You did not close out your table tags here. Try closing out the table before the new one. Hopefully this is your answer.

<table id="banner_capsule" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>
<tr>
<td><img src="http://deborahlundgren.com/bumrush/files/Banner_bumrush_1.png"></td>
</tr>
</table>

Try the above. I just noticed that. I am so tired, going to bed now.

~ Missy

because there's one table inside another.

squakMix · 7th January 2005, 02:55

Quote:

Originally posted by shakey_snake
http://validator.w3.org/

16 errors with an added doctype declaration.
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">

Here's what it said:

Quote:

Line 48, column 27: there is no attribute "HEIGHT"

<table width="100%" height="100%" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>

Quote:

Originally posted by missyob
I just played with it with my website in a testbed. I am too tired to think correctly.

Try going to http://www.draac.com/ Great site for html hon.
I am sorry I could not help more.

~ Missy

Quote:

The Board Is Closed Due To Children Who Do Not Have Anything Better To Do Than To Screw Up Things For Everyone Else. It Was Fun While It Lasted, But I Do Not Have Time To Baby Sit Your Children. Once In Awhile Peek In At Your Children On The Internet And See What They Are Doing...Later

squakMix · 7th January 2005, 03:35

Ok, well, I just figured it out:

It wasnt liking my center tag for some reason.

AGH.

missyob · 7th January 2005, 03:36

Quote:

Originally posted by squakMix
because there's one table inside another.

Told ya I was tired

Sorry about that.

~ Missy

ps On a good note, my bedroom is almost clean

ryan · 7th January 2005, 06:00

Seriously dude, LEARN HTML.

All attributes' values must be quoted — border="0" etc.

As many times as I've told you, you don't listen, so I'll try one last time. Using divs in conjunction with CSS would make your life so much easier. If you wanted to redesign a site that uses tables, you'd have to go back and redo all the markup because it's trapped in the layout you made with the tables. But if you use CSS and DIVS and you want to redesign, you don't have to redo the markup, just change the stylesheet.

But hey, you don't have to listen to me. I'm just trying to make your web-design-life easier.

Also, you don't have to comment EVERY line of CSS.

Just do.

code:
<!--

a { text-decoration:none }

a:link {color: #FFFFFF; font-family: tahoma; font-size: 11pt; }

a:visited {color: #8A8A8A; font-family: tahoma; font-size: 11pt; }

a:hover {color: #8A8A8A; }

--!>

Comments only have TWO "-" when you do them. .

code:
<!=======================================================!>

And what's all this about?

missyob · 7th January 2005, 11:47

<!=======================================================!>

That is nothing more than a spacer taught to us "old school" people that separates lines of code that helps us read the code faster. I learned that back in my basic and RPG days.

~ Missy

Mattress · 7th January 2005, 14:29

<center> tags are depricated in html 4.01 don't use them.

also, what Ryan said.

mysterious_w · 7th January 2005, 14:42

I would try and help, but this is the best I can do.

shakey_snake · 7th January 2005, 14:46

nice plug...
Postcount++

squakMix · 7th January 2005, 17:44

Quote:

Originally posted by ryan
Seriously dude, LEARN HTML.

All attributes' values must be quoted — border="0" etc.

As many times as I've told you, you don't listen, so I'll try one last time. Using divs in conjunction with CSS would make your life so much easier. If you wanted to redesign a site that uses tables, you'd have to go back and redo all the markup because it's trapped in the layout you made with the tables. But if you use CSS and DIVS and you want to redesign, you don't have to redo the markup, just change the stylesheet.

But hey, you don't have to listen to me. I'm just trying to make your web-design-life easier.

Also, you don't have to comment EVERY line of CSS.

Just do.

code:
.

code:
<!=======================================================!>

And what's all this about?

1: I know. I'm too lazy to learn divs right now. "HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU!?" Although I know I should - Just dont have the time or inspiration to do it.

2: I know I should quote every proporty but in my experience I've found it really doesnt seem to matter. I dont care enough to do it if it's just "to do it right".

3: I know about the commenting every line - I didnt write the a:link code. it's just something I grabbed from the internet a few years ago. I've never actually taken the time to learn any formal CSS (I've just started picking it up; most of it is self explanitory).

4: The line just helps me seperate my code - It just acts as a line in the code that does nothing but show me where stuff seperates. It doesnt get recognized by the browser.

Mattress · 7th January 2005, 17:47

if you don't care to learn how to do it correctly, why should anyone care to help you when your code doesn't work properly?

squakMix · 7th January 2005, 17:50

If you really cared about doing it correctly you'd be badgering me about meta tags and doctype declaration.

The point is that it doesnt actually matter.

Mattress · 7th January 2005, 17:53

then why are you asking for help if it doesn't matter how you write your code?

squakMix · 7th January 2005, 17:54

I'm talking about the quotes.

I'm saying THOSE dont actually matter (in actuallity).

zootm · 7th January 2005, 17:57

You're using tables for layout. Don't. You'll get problems like this more and more as browsers get more compliant to the proper use of tables.

Being less bitchy, I don't think that tables are supposed to support the "height" attribute, or something like this. This page might help, although it promotes the correct CSS/div way of doing things that you seem very opposed to. I'd recommend learning it, though, since it leads to more logical, easier-to-maintain sites, and a seperation of form and content.

squakMix · 7th January 2005, 18:01

I'm not opposed to using quotes. I just dont want to go back and put quotes around everything becuase, like I said, it doesnt (seem) to matter at all.

ryan · 7th January 2005, 20:28

Quote:

Originally posted by missyob
<!=======================================================!>

That is nothing more than a spacer taught to us "old school" people that separates lines of code that helps us read the code faster. I learned that back in my basic and RPG days.

~ Missy

I'd use something like...



...to do it. Since the "=" isn't what you use to declare comments.

missyob · 7th January 2005, 20:32

Not to argue with you but isnt

======================================

A big comment to yourself?

~ Missy

xzxzzx · 7th January 2005, 20:36

Quote:

Originally posted by squakMix
I'm not opposed to using quotes. I just dont want to go back and put quotes around everything becuase, like I said, it doesnt (seem) to matter at all.

In HTML 4.01, it's not required to use quotes around every attribute, only in certain cases (I don't recall the rules offhand). As long as you want to use only HTML 4.01, go ahead and don't quote the attributes that don't require it, but I will tell you this:

It is stupid not to quote attributes. It is acceptable to quote any attribute, and if you just ALWAYS do it, you'll never forget, and never have a problem. It's not like you even have to go back and fix it yourself. Use HTML Tidy.

Furthermore, you're condemning yourself to far more work in the future by not learning CSS now - CSS is the future, it's not that hard, and it avoids silly problems like this. Instead of wasting time fixing the problems of yesteryear, why not come to 2004 and start using CSS?

xzxzzx · 7th January 2005, 20:38

Quote:

Originally posted by missyob
Not to argue with you but isnt

======================================

A big comment to yourself?

~ Missy

Sure. But it's also illegal. You can use:

code:
<!--=====================-->

if you want.

missyob · 7th January 2005, 20:47

I was being lazy and not typing in < >. Sorry about that.

I am going back to work now and staying out of this. Have a great day everyone.
Hugs,
~ Missy

xzxzzx · 7th January 2005, 20:50

What I mean is that you can have anything in the comment, but it MUST be surrounded by:

code:
<!-- -->

and therefore,

code:
<!=====>

is illegal.

squakMix · 7th January 2005, 22:15

I'm already picking up css.

I'll get around to learning the technical shit when I have some time/inspiration.

squakMix · 9th January 2005, 03:10

is there any way to control cellpadding with css?

Anyone know a good, complete css "cheatsheat"?

missyob · 9th January 2005, 03:18

http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp

http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey...lesheet_guide/

Smeggle · 9th January 2005, 14:04

ok first your using two different types of css - external (via your meta link) and inline (via your style comment in your header).

DON'T! use one or the other as you will just end up confused and with a lot of problems. and yes, I am speaking from experiance. I used to cheat and do the same, but as I got more advanced in css I started to get problems. It was totally my fault as I would be trying to apply attributes to the same thing without realising it. 1 to be aware of

second - your using html 4.01 so to align a table centered use this;

code:






<table align="center"id="banner_capsule_rightLine" width=87 height=100% cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>

<tr>

<td valign=bottom>



<table  id="banner_capsule" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>

<tr>

<td><img src="banner address here"></td>

</tr>

</table>



<td>

</tr>

</table>



</td>

</tr>

</table>

Also it looks like your closing the the main table twice there to me.

And yes cellpadding can be done in css - it's called 'padding'

margin
border
padding

in that order, like so;

code:


#indentifier {



margin: value;

border: value value value value;

padding: value value value value;

}

where 'value' = a number from '0' upwards. in pixels.

i.e.

code:




#identifier {

margin: 1px;

border: 3px 3px 3px 3px;

padding: 10px 10px 10 10px;

}

as you can see I can place 4 values and they will do the 'Top', 'Left', Bottom' and 'Right' values, strictly speaking (And generally easier to understand and follow)

They should be written like this;

code:


#identifier {

margin: 1px; 

border-top: 3px;

border-left: 3px;

border-right: 3px;

border-bottom: 3px;

padding-top: 10px;

padding-left: 10px;

padding-right: 10px

padding-bottom: 10px;

}

Here I am clearly 'Identifying' Top, Left, Right and bottom. Always maje sure you close the attribute with ';' and open close with these brackets {} - where open = { and close =} .

Also don't forget you can link the img (Banner) via your css as well. Get used to it - it really can cut load times dowm for graphics enhanced pages

.

btw nesting that table inside a div element will take you to xhtml transitional, when you've moved all the attributes like height, padding, width etc to css and added an alt="" attribute to your img src line and then closed it correctly;

i.e.

code:


<img src="img address here" alt="Descrition here - not to long" />

notice I have added an alt="" text and also a forward slash implicitly closing the element. Do that on your meta tags as well and that code should validate as xhtml.

Hope that helps squawk...

btw I'm working on an html 4.0/4.01/xhtml Meta tag generator and a css genetrator with a guy at the moment. It's web based and option select/copy&paste at the end.

so say the meta generator would work like this,

Select your DTD html 4.0/4.01 or xhtml
then which tags you want to use, charset, css link etc

hit submit you get a set of meta tags neatly enclosed in the head tags with the correct DTD.

Similar kind of thing for the css - select from options including colors etc .

Should be available soon and whats more - Freebie! lol

I'll let you know when it happens...

~

squakMix · 9th January 2005, 16:00

yea, my meta tag header was doing nothing - it was just a forgotten remnance of some other code I pasted over. I got rid of the tag long ago.

7th January 2005, 01:36	#1
squakMix wwwyzzerdd (Forum King) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458	need some more html help again This works like it should in IE, not right in firefox. The middle table (with the banner and inside lines) doesnt extend 100% high in firefox. <html> <head> <meta link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="name of the css.css" /> <style type=text/css> <!-- <!--table { font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10px; font-style: Normal; color: #D6D6D6; } #outside_lines { border-right: 1px #FFFFFF solid; border-left: 1px #FFFFFF solid; } #banner_capsule { border-top: 1px #FFFFFF solid; } #banner_capsule_rightLine { border-right: 1px #FFFFFF solid; } #left_line { border-top: 1px #FFFFFF solid; } <!-- <!--A { text-decoration:none }--> <!--A:link {text-decoration: none; color: #FFFFFF}-----> <!--A:link {font-family: tahoma; font-size: 11pt;} <!--A:visited {text-decoration: none; color: #8A8A8A; }-----> <!--A:visited {font-family: tahoma; font-size: 11pt;}-----> <!--A:hover {text-decoration: None; color: #8A8A8A}--> ------!>#FF0000 </style> <title> bleh </title> </head> <body bgcolor=#808080 Topmargin=0 bottomMargin=0 leftmargin=0 rightMargin=0> <table width="100%" height="100%" border=1 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td> asd </td> <td> <!=======================================================!> <center> <table id="outside_lines" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 height="100%" width=550 border=1> <tr> <td> <table id="banner_capsule_rightLine" width=87 height=100% cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td valign=bottom> <table id="banner_capsule" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td><img src="http://deborahlundgren.com/bumrush/files/Banner_bumrush_1.png"></td> </tr> </table> <td> </tr> </table> </td> </tr> </table> </center> <!==================================================!> </td> </tr> </table> </body> </html> Thanks for any help "Oh BTW. How do you say 'stop throwing shit at the side of my house' in spanish?" Check out my music

7th January 2005, 01:42	#2
missyob Angel of Winamp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Winamp House Posts: 4,578	I dont know crap about firefox but <td> <!=======================================================!> <center> <table id="outside_lines" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 height="100%" width=550 border=1> <tr> <td> *** Try closing the <tr and td> tags then reopening them again just below. See if that makes a difference Just a shot in the dark. ~ Missy EDIT I think I found it ---- Look at the "" quote marks around the 100% on the table below you dont have the quotes. I cant remember if you need quotes or not-- It has been a while since I have coded. "Sex is great and is remembered as a moment in life while love lasts a lifetime." Quote from Chev

7th January 2005, 01:46	#3
squakMix wwwyzzerdd (Forum King) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458	Nope . Thanks for the shot though - I appreciate people are actually trying to help "Oh BTW. How do you say 'stop throwing shit at the side of my house' in spanish?" Check out my music

7th January 2005, 01:58	#5
squakMix wwwyzzerdd (Forum King) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458	Ok, I'll try re arranging the code, and make sure that quotes are around all "100%"s in the code. Brb to report. "Oh BTW. How do you say 'stop throwing shit at the side of my house' in spanish?" Check out my music

7th January 2005, 01:59	#6
squakMix wwwyzzerdd (Forum King) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458	Neither of them worked. "Oh BTW. How do you say 'stop throwing shit at the side of my house' in spanish?" Check out my music

7th January 2005, 01:54	#4
jerimiah40 Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 955	Don't see how this would fix anything, but HTML has been known to do some pretty strange things. IN the red one, you have the width after the hight, but in the rest, you have it the other way around. I know that it sounds like it won't do anything, but you never know. Other than the quotes, like Missy mentioned, I don't see anything else different

7th January 2005, 02:02	#7
missyob Angel of Winamp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Winamp House Posts: 4,578	I just played with it with my website in a testbed. I am too tired to think correctly. Try going to http://www.draac.com/ Great site for html hon. I am sorry I could not help more. ~ Missy "Sex is great and is remembered as a moment in life while love lasts a lifetime." Quote from Chev

7th January 2005, 02:05	#8
shakey_snake Forum Domo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Everyone, get over here for the picture! Posts: 4,329	http://validator.w3.org/ 16 errors with an added doctype declaration. <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> elevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladylevitateme

7th January 2005, 02:08	#9
missyob Angel of Winamp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Winamp House Posts: 4,578	<table id="banner_capsule_rightLine" width=87 height=100% cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td valign=bottom> You did not close out your table tags here. Try closing out the table before the new one. Hopefully this is your answer. <table id="banner_capsule" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td><img src="http://deborahlundgren.com/bumrush/files/Banner_bumrush_1.png"></td> </tr> </table> Try the above. I just noticed that. I am so tired, going to bed now. ~ Missy "Sex is great and is remembered as a moment in life while love lasts a lifetime." Quote from Chev

7th January 2005, 03:35	#12
squakMix wwwyzzerdd (Forum King) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458	Ok, well, I just figured it out: It wasnt liking my center tag for some reason. AGH. "Oh BTW. How do you say 'stop throwing shit at the side of my house' in spanish?" Check out my music

7th January 2005, 06:00	#14
ryan not fucked, not quite. (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tn Posts: 8,755	Seriously dude, LEARN HTML. All attributes' values must be quoted — border="0" etc. As many times as I've told you, you don't listen, so I'll try one last time. Using divs in conjunction with CSS would make your life so much easier. If you wanted to redesign a site that uses tables, you'd have to go back and redo all the markup because it's trapped in the layout you made with the tables. But if you use CSS and DIVS and you want to redesign, you don't have to redo the markup, just change the stylesheet. But hey, you don't have to listen to me. I'm just trying to make your web-design-life easier. Also, you don't have to comment EVERY line of CSS. Just do. code: <!-- a { text-decoration:none } a:link {color: #FFFFFF; font-family: tahoma; font-size: 11pt; } a:visited {color: #8A8A8A; font-family: tahoma; font-size: 11pt; } a:hover {color: #8A8A8A; } --!> Comments only have TWO "-" when you do them. <!-- and -->. code: <!=======================================================!> And what's all this about?

7th January 2005, 11:47	#15
missyob Angel of Winamp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Winamp House Posts: 4,578	<!=======================================================!> That is nothing more than a spacer taught to us "old school" people that separates lines of code that helps us read the code faster. I learned that back in my basic and RPG days. ~ Missy "Sex is great and is remembered as a moment in life while love lasts a lifetime." Quote from Chev

7th January 2005, 14:29	#16
Mattress Forum King Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 4,577	<center> tags are depricated in html 4.01 don't use them. also, what Ryan said. Besides shooting out a big blank from your buttock, you can feel as if your root chakra leaked sweet hot mucus.

7th January 2005, 14:42	#17
mysterious_w Forum King Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Good ol' Britain Posts: 2,749	I would try and help, but this is the best I can do.

7th January 2005, 14:46	#18
shakey_snake Forum Domo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Everyone, get over here for the picture! Posts: 4,329	nice plug... Postcount++ elevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladylevitateme

7th January 2005, 17:47	#20
Mattress Forum King Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 4,577	if you don't care to learn how to do it correctly, why should anyone care to help you when your code doesn't work properly? Besides shooting out a big blank from your buttock, you can feel as if your root chakra leaked sweet hot mucus.

7th January 2005, 17:50	#21
squakMix wwwyzzerdd (Forum King) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458	If you really cared about doing it correctly you'd be badgering me about meta tags and doctype declaration. The point is that it doesnt actually matter. "Oh BTW. How do you say 'stop throwing shit at the side of my house' in spanish?" Check out my music

7th January 2005, 17:53	#22
Mattress Forum King Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 4,577	then why are you asking for help if it doesn't matter how you write your code? Besides shooting out a big blank from your buttock, you can feel as if your root chakra leaked sweet hot mucus.

7th January 2005, 17:54	#23
squakMix wwwyzzerdd (Forum King) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458	I'm talking about the quotes. I'm saying THOSE dont actually matter (in actuallity). "Oh BTW. How do you say 'stop throwing shit at the side of my house' in spanish?" Check out my music

7th January 2005, 17:57	#24
zootm Forum King Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: the nether reaches of bonnie scotland Posts: 13,378	You're using tables for layout. Don't. You'll get problems like this more and more as browsers get more compliant to the proper use of tables. Being less bitchy, I don't think that tables are supposed to support the "height" attribute, or something like this. This page might help, although it promotes the correct CSS/div way of doing things that you seem very opposed to. I'd recommend learning it, though, since it leads to more logical, easier-to-maintain sites, and a seperation of form and content.

7th January 2005, 18:01	#25
squakMix wwwyzzerdd (Forum King) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458	I'm not opposed to using quotes. I just dont want to go back and put quotes around everything becuase, like I said, it doesnt (seem) to matter at all. "Oh BTW. How do you say 'stop throwing shit at the side of my house' in spanish?" Check out my music

7th January 2005, 20:32	#27
missyob Angel of Winamp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Winamp House Posts: 4,578	Not to argue with you but isnt ====================================== A big comment to yourself? ~ Missy "Sex is great and is remembered as a moment in life while love lasts a lifetime." Quote from Chev

7th January 2005, 20:47	#30
missyob Angel of Winamp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Winamp House Posts: 4,578	I was being lazy and not typing in < >. Sorry about that. I am going back to work now and staying out of this. Have a great day everyone. Hugs, ~ Missy "Sex is great and is remembered as a moment in life while love lasts a lifetime." Quote from Chev

7th January 2005, 20:50	#31
xzxzzx Forum King Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,267	What I mean is that you can have anything in the comment, but it MUST be surrounded by: code: <!-- --> and therefore, code: <!=====> is illegal. Freedom of speech is the basic freedom of humanity. When you've lost that, you've lost everything. 1\/\/4y 34\|<$p4y 1gp4y 33714y, 0d4y 0uy4y? \| Roses are #FF0000; Violets are #0000FF; chown -R ${YOU} ~/base The DMCA. It really is that bad. : Count for your life.

7th January 2005, 22:15	#32
squakMix wwwyzzerdd (Forum King) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458	I'm already picking up css. I'll get around to learning the technical shit when I have some time/inspiration. "Oh BTW. How do you say 'stop throwing shit at the side of my house' in spanish?" Check out my music

9th January 2005, 03:10	#33
squakMix wwwyzzerdd (Forum King) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458	is there any way to control cellpadding with css? Anyone know a good, complete css "cheatsheat"? "Oh BTW. How do you say 'stop throwing shit at the side of my house' in spanish?" Check out my music

9th January 2005, 03:18	#34
missyob Angel of Winamp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Winamp House Posts: 4,578	http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey...lesheet_guide/ "Sex is great and is remembered as a moment in life while love lasts a lifetime." Quote from Chev

9th January 2005, 14:04	#35
Smeggle Just Strolling By (Major Dude) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Long Winding Road..... Posts: 3,201	ok first your using two different types of css - external (via your meta link) and inline (via your style comment in your header). DON'T! use one or the other as you will just end up confused and with a lot of problems. and yes, I am speaking from experiance. I used to cheat and do the same, but as I got more advanced in css I started to get problems. It was totally my fault as I would be trying to apply attributes to the same thing without realising it. 1 to be aware of second - your using html 4.01 so to align a table centered use this; code: <table align="center"id="banner_capsule_rightLine" width=87 height=100% cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td valign=bottom> <table id="banner_capsule" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td><img src="banner address here"></td> </tr> </table> <td> </tr> </table> </td> </tr> </table> Also it looks like your closing the the main table twice there to me. And yes cellpadding can be done in css - it's called 'padding' margin border padding in that order, like so; code: #indentifier { margin: value; border: value value value value; padding: value value value value; } where 'value' = a number from '0' upwards. in pixels. i.e. code: #identifier { margin: 1px; border: 3px 3px 3px 3px; padding: 10px 10px 10 10px; } as you can see I can place 4 values and they will do the 'Top', 'Left', Bottom' and 'Right' values, strictly speaking (And generally easier to understand and follow) They should be written like this; code: #identifier { margin: 1px; border-top: 3px; border-left: 3px; border-right: 3px; border-bottom: 3px; padding-top: 10px; padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 10px padding-bottom: 10px; } Here I am clearly 'Identifying' Top, Left, Right and bottom. Always maje sure you close the attribute with ';' and open close with these brackets {} - where open = { and close =} . Also don't forget you can link the img (Banner) via your css as well. Get used to it - it really can cut load times dowm for graphics enhanced pages . btw nesting that table inside a div element will take you to xhtml transitional, when you've moved all the attributes like height, padding, width etc to css and added an alt="" attribute to your img src line and then closed it correctly; i.e. code: <img src="img address here" alt="Descrition here - not to long" /> notice I have added an alt="" text and also a forward slash implicitly closing the element. Do that on your meta tags as well and that code should validate as xhtml. Hope that helps squawk... btw I'm working on an html 4.0/4.01/xhtml Meta tag generator and a css genetrator with a guy at the moment. It's web based and option select/copy&paste at the end. so say the meta generator would work like this, Select your DTD html 4.0/4.01 or xhtml then which tags you want to use, charset, css link etc hit submit you get a set of meta tags neatly enclosed in the head tags with the correct DTD. Similar kind of thing for the css - select from options including colors etc . Should be available soon and whats more - Freebie! lol I'll let you know when it happens... ~ Music is Life, Love and Happiness :\|: Life is Music. Serren - 1985 - 2005 Religion? Religion is a Blasphemy against humanity - From the film What the Bleep do we know siggy link So stumbling? whats it all about

9th January 2005, 16:00	#36
squakMix wwwyzzerdd (Forum King) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,458	yea, my meta tag header was doing nothing - it was just a forgotten remnance of some other code I pasted over. I got rid of the tag long ago. "Oh BTW. How do you say 'stop throwing shit at the side of my house' in spanish?" Check out my music

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