ml_tree prototype - Page 4

cheenius · 25th April 2006, 01:51

You probably already figured out that if you just set your default sort to be backwards then it adds the songs in the right order...
There's many bugs already reported, or at least so says the help window.

riezebosch · 26th April 2006, 09:42

But where to modify the default sort?
Maybe it's a good idea to group the known bugs together, in the openingpost for instance?

bobmoss · 25th May 2006, 22:31

How do you get ml_tree to add tracks in the correct (non-reversed) order when you right click on a folder and select play? The previous poster mentioned changing the default sort order but I can't see anywhere to change it.
Thanks.

shaneh · 20th August 2006, 05:51

I've done a small update to this plugin to fix some compat issues. I'd like to do a lot more, but one thing at a time.

Namely Ive fixed:
- Ratings and playcounts etc not being shown for latest versions of winamp.
- Locate current selected fixed for latest versions of winamp
- Rate items context menu now functions
- Locate/Tracking of current playing/selected items fixed

Koogle · 4th November 2006, 23:38

shaneh when are you going to get back onto this plugin.. its like the best one out there..dynamic library just doesn't appeal to me when I can use this one and already have my entire media library available+plus its built in.. just sucks that you can't customize it much.

would be great if you could start polishing it up some more

ps. is there any quick way i can change the alternating row colours?

chocka · 20th December 2006, 20:07

May be a stupid question, but I just downloaded ml_tree.zip.
And when look to the content of this zip file: 1x bmp, 1x dll and 2x ini files. I ask what to do to install this plug-in into winamp???

I tried read all of this topic to find out, but nowhere I can find How to install???

I think this plug-in is the answer to my question for which I wanted to start a topic:

How to change the view of ML like explorer.

If this plug-in donnot match my question. Please, let me know. So I can start a topic to get to know what I need to get the view of ML like explorer.

Artist 3D · 20th December 2006, 20:12

Quote:

Originally posted by chocka
May be a stupid question... but I ask what to do to install this plug-in into winamp???

Just copy the files to your winamp's plugins folder, usually is: c:\program files\winamp\plugins

Koogle · 23rd December 2006, 23:49

yes its very much what you're looking for..

unfortunately its development seems as dead as a dodo like a lot of good things that get made for winamp they often never get finished and left abandoned... however the alternative to ML_tree is Dynamic Library.. maybe worth a try..

/\NDROID · 13th January 2007, 10:32

This is great replace for classic Media Library.
But I got a suggestion for you. When you move some tracks in Artist or Artist/Album view to another "folder" (artist/album), it would be great to change ID3 tags of these tracks and class them properly in ML.
Thanks

Koogle · 13th January 2007, 22:04

I think this plugin is now abandonware unfortunatly.. such a shame

DrO · 13th January 2007, 22:57

you can't expect constant/instant updates with any plugins since it all comes down to the devs of the plugins to find/have the time to be able to work on them. also 5 months is a relatively short time to start claiming things as abandonware (personally i've a few plugins which have had a few minor internal updates but nothing major and that's from a few years after the last public release). until shane makes comment regarding this plugin i'd say it's not abandoned and is just waiting for time to appear to be able to work on it again. patience is the key word here (however frustrating that it maybe)

-daz

peba0706 · 14th January 2007, 10:58

hey, I found two bugs!!

when i use this plugin, playlist disappears.
Why? But when i click somwhere else, it appears again.
Funny, isnt it?

http://img168.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_522lo.jpg
http://img171.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_491lo.jpg

shaneh · 14th January 2007, 11:03

I still use this plugin myself, its my primary interface to the ML. I find and enqueue every song I play from it, and send songs to my ipod from it. Which is pretty much all I need it for.

So I wouldn't say its abandoned, it just meets my immediate needs so I havent bothered to put the effort in to update it.

It has a fairly complex code base, and is written mostly in straight C but really should be re-written in C++. I am reluctant to commit much more effort to it in its current form because:

a. The ML is undergoing a change to unicode in Winamp, yet ML_tree is all multibyte based.

b. I would be increasing the complexity of the code, increasing the need for a re-design/re-write, and at the same time increasing the amount of code that needs to be re-written/re-designed. Its a bit of a stalemate condition.

As I use it myself, it should at least remain usable. I do like this plugin, so its something I will keep on my todo list. If and when I ever get a large amount of free time to dedicate to this, I will probably re-write it (mind you I say that about everything).

I would like to see what the ML does with the unicode transition too. Already there are a few changes, such as with adding 'composer' etc, and a a few bugs fixed. With that, my existing ml_tree code base, and my growing experience with decent code design it should be a little more desirable to design / re-code / maintain.

The biggest problem is time, or lack there-of.

shaneh · 14th January 2007, 11:05

@peba0706:: you are using an old skool version that had a hack to dock the playlist. I dropped this feature in the later builds. Its kinda cool, but kinda useless and buggy. Get the latest version from www.myplugins.info

peba0706 · 14th January 2007, 16:53

Thank you for the fast response!
Now its works fine with oldskool skin (i like it, i dont wanna change) The playlist still appears, and the whole thing is OK.
So, thanks for your work, once again!

cheers

sublime78 · 24th February 2007, 18:12

Let me start out by thanking you for ML Tree, it is a very helpful tool. One question for you; is it possible to apply node ordering on a specific directory and have that setting retained between the opening and closing of Winamp?

shaneh · 24th February 2007, 23:10

No unfortuantly not, but I am working on a re-write of ml tree which is going to be quite different, it may support that. Hopefully it will eventually be something a bit similar to

http://wiki.bowron.us/index.php/Foob...:Playlist_Tree

Although probably not as full featured, one thing at a time. Ive got some of the basics going, but it still needs a lot of design work.

Koogle · 13th June 2007, 15:31

how is the developtment going on this new ml_tree re-write.. Didn't think anything was wrong with the last ml_tree, just needed some polishing up.. but oh well I am still waiting to see an update on propably one of the btter ml replacements

Pinjekotte · 19th January 2008, 12:30

Yes, ML_TREE really is.. the win...
we need a remake with all the bloat!
ML_TREE goes 2008!

Koogle · 1st August 2008, 21:19

shaneh damnit..where are you???.. ml_tree now doesn't even seem to be even usable from a straight fresh winamp 5.54 install and the plugin files from your site.. what to do

20th August 2006, 05:51	#124
shaneh Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 1,193	I've done a small update to this plugin to fix some compat issues. I'd like to do a lot more, but one thing at a time. Namely Ive fixed: - Ratings and playcounts etc not being shown for latest versions of winamp. - Locate current selected fixed for latest versions of winamp - Rate items context menu now functions - Locate/Tracking of current playing/selected items fixed Music Plugins

4th November 2006, 23:38	#125
Koogle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 217	shaneh when are you going to get back onto this plugin.. its like the best one out there..dynamic library just doesn't appeal to me when I can use this one and already have my entire media library available+plus its built in.. just sucks that you can't customize it much. would be great if you could start polishing it up some more ps. is there any quick way i can change the alternating row colours? My signature was just too damn good to be seen here..

23rd December 2006, 23:49	#128
Koogle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 217	yes its very much what you're looking for.. unfortunately its development seems as dead as a dodo like a lot of good things that get made for winamp they often never get finished and left abandoned... however the alternative to ML_tree is Dynamic Library.. maybe worth a try.. My signature was just too damn good to be seen here..

13th January 2007, 10:32	#129
/\NDROID Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1	Suggestion This is great replace for classic Media Library. But I got a suggestion for you. When you move some tracks in Artist or Artist/Album view to another "folder" (artist/album), it would be great to change ID3 tags of these tracks and class them properly in ML. Thanks
$/\NDROID is offline$

13th January 2007, 22:04	#130
Koogle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 217	I think this plugin is now abandonware unfortunatly.. such a shame My signature was just too damn good to be seen here..

25th April 2006, 01:51	#121
cheenius Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 37	You probably already figured out that if you just set your default sort to be backwards then it adds the songs in the right order... There's many bugs already reported, or at least so says the help window.

26th April 2006, 09:42	#122
riezebosch Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2	But where to modify the default sort? Maybe it's a good idea to group the known bugs together, in the openingpost for instance?

25th May 2006, 22:31	#123
bobmoss Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1	How do you get ml_tree to add tracks in the correct (non-reversed) order when you right click on a folder and select play? The previous poster mentioned changing the default sort order but I can't see anywhere to change it. Thanks.

20th December 2006, 20:07	#126
chocka Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5	May be a stupid question, but I just downloaded ml_tree.zip. And when look to the content of this zip file: 1x bmp, 1x dll and 2x ini files. I ask what to do to install this plug-in into winamp??? I tried read all of this topic to find out, but nowhere I can find How to install??? I think this plug-in is the answer to my question for which I wanted to start a topic: How to change the view of ML like explorer. If this plug-in donnot match my question. Please, let me know. So I can start a topic to get to know what I need to get the view of ML like explorer.

13th January 2007, 22:57	#131
DrO - Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK Posts: 22,278	you can't expect constant/instant updates with any plugins since it all comes down to the devs of the plugins to find/have the time to be able to work on them. also 5 months is a relatively short time to start claiming things as abandonware (personally i've a few plugins which have had a few minor internal updates but nothing major and that's from a few years after the last public release). until shane makes comment regarding this plugin i'd say it's not abandoned and is just waiting for time to appear to be able to work on it again. patience is the key word here (however frustrating that it maybe) -daz

14th January 2007, 10:58	#132
peba0706 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4	hey, I found two bugs!! when i use this plugin, playlist disappears. Why? But when i click somwhere else, it appears again. Funny, isnt it? http://img168.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_522lo.jpg http://img171.imagevenue.com/img.php..._122_491lo.jpg

14th January 2007, 11:03	#133
shaneh Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 1,193	I still use this plugin myself, its my primary interface to the ML. I find and enqueue every song I play from it, and send songs to my ipod from it. Which is pretty much all I need it for. So I wouldn't say its abandoned, it just meets my immediate needs so I havent bothered to put the effort in to update it. It has a fairly complex code base, and is written mostly in straight C but really should be re-written in C++. I am reluctant to commit much more effort to it in its current form because: a. The ML is undergoing a change to unicode in Winamp, yet ML_tree is all multibyte based. b. I would be increasing the complexity of the code, increasing the need for a re-design/re-write, and at the same time increasing the amount of code that needs to be re-written/re-designed. Its a bit of a stalemate condition. As I use it myself, it should at least remain usable. I do like this plugin, so its something I will keep on my todo list. If and when I ever get a large amount of free time to dedicate to this, I will probably re-write it (mind you I say that about everything). I would like to see what the ML does with the unicode transition too. Already there are a few changes, such as with adding 'composer' etc, and a a few bugs fixed. With that, my existing ml_tree code base, and my growing experience with decent code design it should be a little more desirable to design / re-code / maintain. The biggest problem is time, or lack there-of. Music Plugins

14th January 2007, 11:05	#134
shaneh Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 1,193	@peba0706:: you are using an old skool version that had a hack to dock the playlist. I dropped this feature in the later builds. Its kinda cool, but kinda useless and buggy. Get the latest version from www.myplugins.info Music Plugins

14th January 2007, 16:53	#135
peba0706 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4	Thank you for the fast response! Now its works fine with oldskool skin (i like it, i dont wanna change) The playlist still appears, and the whole thing is OK. So, thanks for your work, once again! cheers

24th February 2007, 18:12	#136
sublime78 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2	Saving preferences Let me start out by thanking you for ML Tree, it is a very helpful tool. One question for you; is it possible to apply node ordering on a specific directory and have that setting retained between the opening and closing of Winamp?

24th February 2007, 23:10	#137
shaneh Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 1,193	No unfortuantly not, but I am working on a re-write of ml tree which is going to be quite different, it may support that. Hopefully it will eventually be something a bit similar to http://wiki.bowron.us/index.php/Foob...:Playlist_Tree Although probably not as full featured, one thing at a time. Ive got some of the basics going, but it still needs a lot of design work. Music Plugins

13th June 2007, 15:31	#138
Koogle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 217	how is the developtment going on this new ml_tree re-write.. Didn't think anything was wrong with the last ml_tree, just needed some polishing up.. but oh well I am still waiting to see an update on propably one of the btter ml replacements My signature was just too damn good to be seen here..

19th January 2008, 12:30	#139
Pinjekotte Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4	Yes, ML_TREE really is.. the win... we need a remake with all the bloat! ML_TREE goes 2008!

1st August 2008, 21:19	#140
Koogle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 217	shaneh damnit..where are you???.. ml_tree now doesn't even seem to be even usable from a straight fresh winamp 5.54 install and the plugin files from your site.. what to do My signature was just too damn good to be seen here..

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