Leaving Winamp

ronial77 · 24th December 2005, 13:10

I'm sad to say that after 7 years I decided to stop using Winamp and move to MediaMonkey.
I think that Winamp's media library is just not good enough, and in my opinion it's not user friendly.
This way I can still use the Winamp player (otherwise I would never have left) with the classic skins witch I've allways preferred.

mikm · 24th December 2005, 14:41

Bye.

qwert73 · 24th December 2005, 15:59

Everybody is free to choose an other player. I made the same decision: I prefer foobar. But that doesn't mean for me to forget Winamp and to say bye - i used Winamp too long and i will use it the next years. I'm happy about every update and new cool plugins. And i am curios to see what is happening in future: the developer make a good job.

By the way: Media Monkey is a good decision compared to iTunes or other products of lifestyle and fashion.

ronial77 · 24th December 2005, 17:00

Am I the only one thinking that music library is not good enough and has too limited options?

mikm · 24th December 2005, 17:02

If you want changes, you should be more specific. Don't just whine that it is "just not good enough". What features would you like to see? What changes should be made so it is more user-friendly?

qwert73 · 24th December 2005, 17:44

Quote:

Originally posted by ronial77
Am I the only one thinking that music library is not good enough and has too limited options?

You are not the only! The library is very poor but however: i love the old lady!

The Goat · 24th December 2005, 18:38

idk about you guys, but I'm really satisfied with winamp's library; don't care much for album art anyway

I also use Foobar

Wildrose-Wally · 24th December 2005, 19:30

Quote:

Originally posted by ronial77
Am I the only one thinking that music library is not good enough and has too limited options?

Yes, you are the only one. Does that make you feel better?

JFASI · 24th December 2005, 20:42

Shame you're leaving...

I'll give him five days...

afruff23 · 25th December 2005, 05:51

Can you care to elaborate WHY mediamonkey's media library is better? Also, I doubt mediamonkey has as many plugins as winamp. I just checked out mediamonkey's site. You have to buy the gold version for folder wacthing capability(i.e. rescanning folders automatically for media). This is a very basic media library function. Without it this program fails. On the other hand, if you do buy gold version, then it is better than winamp's media library, but seriously WHO modifies their database with access. Some features I like is the autoplaylists(i.e. smart/playlist/view) can have a size limit and the autotagger(unless it doesn't provide a way for you to find out what changes have been made). Simply put, without the gold version, Winamp(free)>Mediamonkey(free). Also Winamp Pro<Mediamonkey Gold in terms of media library.

JFASI · 25th December 2005, 16:03

Word. Well put, and it doesn't have AVS!

qwert73 · 26th December 2005, 14:24

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildrose-Wally
Yes, you are the only one. Does that make you feel better?

Once again: No, he isn't! What is the sense of your posting?

Quote:

Originally posted by afruff23
Can you care to elaborate WHY mediamonkey's media library is better?

- more columns and also userdefined columns
- organisation of playlists in subfolders
- support of albumartist
- magic nodes for defining an own treeview: Genre/Label/Producer for example
- masstagging
- you can burn from library your mp3s and define the structure of burned files: f.e. Artist/Album/Title
- advanced sorting: sort by genre then year and then artist
- autotagging from library

and so on.......

(that list belongs to free version)

Quote:

I just checked out mediamonkey's site.

Check out the program!

Quote:

Originally posted by JFASI
Word. Well put, and it doesn't have AVS!

no comment!

Wildrose-Wally · 26th December 2005, 15:40

Quote:

Originally posted by qwert73
Once again: No, he isn't! What is the sense of your posting?

What is the sense of you answering a post you don't think is worth answering in the first place?

qwert73 · 26th December 2005, 16:45

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildrose-Wally
What is the sense of you answering a post you don't think is worth answering in the first place?

I didn't like your "Does that make you feel better?".

And: he isn't the only!

And: ML is poor!

Koopa · 26th December 2005, 22:12

You start a thread, and cry that Winamp's library isn't user friendly, but you give no points, how the libray could be improved.

I would never change to another player, because:

- there are many good skins in the web
- Winamp has the best user interface
- there are plug-ins for exotic formats, like spc, psf, usf etc.
- I can convert exotic formats to wave, and burn them using the DiskWriter
- there are many good presets for MilkDrop and AVS aviable
- Winamp uses low ressources

Just my 2Cent.

gameplaya15143 · 27th December 2005, 01:45

i cant complain about the media library... i dont use it

ive heard good things about media monkey, but i just went to the website... looks like yet another good n00bie rip-off

i hope ronial77 didn't pay for it

are people really so disorganized with their files that they need 'media library' software ?

qwert73 · 27th December 2005, 09:49

Quote:

Originally posted by gameplaya15143

ive heard good things about media monkey, but i just went to the website... looks like yet another good n00bie rip-off i hope ronial77 didn't pay for it

are people really so disorganized with their files that they need 'media library' software ?

The free version of MM offers more than WA Pro. That's not a question of taste but of facts. What are we discussing about?

Is it so hard to accept that other players are better in some points than Winamp? Why are such childish statements necessary? "My toy is better than yours"

Why don't you say: "Yes sure, MM Library is better, but i don't need it, so i continue using Winamp. And yeah, i love Winamp".

What is a quality of an argument which is based on watching the website whithout testing the program for fu..ing ten minutes?

Mr_Sako · 27th December 2005, 20:37

Quote:

Originally posted by qwert73
Once again: No, he isn't! What is the sense of your posting?

- more columns and also userdefined columns
- organisation of playlists in subfolders
- support of albumartist
- magic nodes for defining an own treeview: Genre/Label/Producer for example
- masstagging
- you can burn from library your mp3s and define the structure of burned files: f.e. Artist/Album/Title
- advanced sorting: sort by genre then year and then artist
- autotagging from library

and so on.......

(that list belongs to free version)

Check out the program!

no comment!

i beleive winamp does all this except for autotagging from library, i dont know what that is

btw IMO winamp media library is better than all the other ones, its very simple and it has all the different features i need involving music, ci can easily drag music on and off external devices, rip and burn cds browse my mass collections of mp3s and everything

afruff23 · 28th December 2005, 03:16

As I mentioned before only MM pro has rescan folder ability, which is really a big feature for me, so MM's ML(free)<Winamp's ML.

Mr_Sako · 28th December 2005, 03:38

so does winamp on the media libarary, click library on the bottom left

shakey_snake · 28th December 2005, 03:42

ouch! Junior member pwns member!

qwert73 · 28th December 2005, 13:55

Originally posted by Mr_Sako
beleive winamp does all this except for autotagging from library, i dont know what that is

Are you sure?

CraigF · 28th December 2005, 23:14

winamps library leaves a lot to be desired. but plugins can, and do extend on it. and its also due to be renovated eventually. I dont see what all the arguments are about. Winamp has far more to offer than a straight music management app, but likewise, a music management app has far more on offer for music management than winamp does.

Or, to quote from above:

Yes sure, MM Library is better, but i don't need it, so i continue using Winamp. And yeah, i love Winamp.

afruff23 · 29th December 2005, 02:59

Mr_Sako you misunderstood my post. I was already aware that winamp(free) has rescan folder ability, hence my statement: MM's ML(free)<Winamp's ML, sicne MM(free) has no rescan folder ability.

24th December 2005, 13:10	#1
ronial77 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: nowhere interesting Posts: 34	Leaving Winamp I'm sad to say that after 7 years I decided to stop using Winamp and move to MediaMonkey. I think that Winamp's media library is just not good enough, and in my opinion it's not user friendly. This way I can still use the Winamp player (otherwise I would never have left) with the classic skins witch I've allways preferred.

24th December 2005, 14:41	#2
mikm Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: somewhere else Posts: 1,286	Bye. powered by C₈H₁₀N₄O₂

24th December 2005, 17:02	#5
mikm Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: somewhere else Posts: 1,286	If you want changes, you should be more specific. Don't just whine that it is "just not good enough". What features would you like to see? What changes should be made so it is more user-friendly? powered by C₈H₁₀N₄O₂

24th December 2005, 20:42	#9
JFASI Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: I was hoping you could tell me Posts: 1,350	Shame you're leaving... I'll give him five days... Certified Spam Connoisseur.

25th December 2005, 16:03	#11
JFASI Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: I was hoping you could tell me Posts: 1,350	Word. Well put, and it doesn't have AVS! Certified Spam Connoisseur.

24th December 2005, 15:59	#3
qwert73 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 118	Everybody is free to choose an other player. I made the same decision: I prefer foobar. But that doesn't mean for me to forget Winamp and to say bye - i used Winamp too long and i will use it the next years. I'm happy about every update and new cool plugins. And i am curios to see what is happening in future: the developer make a good job. By the way: Media Monkey is a good decision compared to iTunes or other products of lifestyle and fashion.

24th December 2005, 17:00	#4
ronial77 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: nowhere interesting Posts: 34	Am I the only one thinking that music library is not good enough and has too limited options?

24th December 2005, 18:38	#7
The Goat Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 37	idk about you guys, but I'm really satisfied with winamp's library; don't care much for album art anyway I also use Foobar

25th December 2005, 05:51	#10
afruff23 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 108	Can you care to elaborate WHY mediamonkey's media library is better? Also, I doubt mediamonkey has as many plugins as winamp. I just checked out mediamonkey's site. You have to buy the gold version for folder wacthing capability(i.e. rescanning folders automatically for media). This is a very basic media library function. Without it this program fails. On the other hand, if you do buy gold version, then it is better than winamp's media library, but seriously WHO modifies their database with access. Some features I like is the autoplaylists(i.e. smart/playlist/view) can have a size limit and the autotagger(unless it doesn't provide a way for you to find out what changes have been made). Simply put, without the gold version, Winamp(free)>Mediamonkey(free). Also Winamp Pro<Mediamonkey Gold in terms of media library.

26th December 2005, 22:12	#15
Koopa 16-Bit Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,341	You start a thread, and cry that Winamp's library isn't user friendly, but you give no points, how the libray could be improved. I would never change to another player, because: - there are many good skins in the web - Winamp has the best user interface - there are plug-ins for exotic formats, like spc, psf, usf etc. - I can convert exotic formats to wave, and burn them using the DiskWriter - there are many good presets for MilkDrop and AVS aviable - Winamp uses low ressources Just my 2Cent. My Winamp Info Report \| My Winamp Backup Log \| My WACUP Info Report Own Projects: \| Winamp Tray Control Icon Pack v3.5.3 \| Winamp Backup Tool v3.6.0 \| >> Winamp Info Tool v6.1.0 << \| German Translations: \| Offizielle Deutsche Winamp Sprachdatei v5.66 \| Offizielle Deutsche Winamp Sprachdatei Plus Version 5.666 Useful Winamp Plug-ins: \| SNESAmp \| 64th Note \| NotSo FatSo \| Highly Experimental PSF Player \| Yar Matey! Playlist Copier v1.12 \|

27th December 2005, 01:45	#16
gameplaya15143 Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 753	i cant complain about the media library... i dont use it ive heard good things about media monkey, but i just went to the website... looks like yet another good n00bie rip-off i hope ronial77 didn't pay for it are people really so disorganized with their files that they need 'media library' software ? ／人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

28th December 2005, 03:16	#19
afruff23 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 108	As I mentioned before only MM pro has rescan folder ability, which is really a big feature for me, so MM's ML(free)<Winamp's ML.

28th December 2005, 03:38	#20
Mr_Sako Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 70	so does winamp on the media libarary, click library on the bottom left

28th December 2005, 03:42	#21
shakey_snake Forum Domo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Everyone, get over here for the picture! Posts: 4,313	ouch! Junior member pwns member! elevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladyelevatorladylevitateme

28th December 2005, 13:55	#22
qwert73 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 118	Originally posted by Mr_Sako beleive winamp does all this except for autotagging from library, i dont know what that is Are you sure?

28th December 2005, 23:14	#23
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	winamps library leaves a lot to be desired. but plugins can, and do extend on it. and its also due to be renovated eventually. I dont see what all the arguments are about. Winamp has far more to offer than a straight music management app, but likewise, a music management app has far more on offer for music management than winamp does. Or, to quote from above: Yes sure, MM Library is better, but i don't need it, so i continue using Winamp. And yeah, i love Winamp.

29th December 2005, 02:59	#24
afruff23 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 108	Mr_Sako you misunderstood my post. I was already aware that winamp(free) has rescan folder ability, hence my statement: MM's ML(free)<Winamp's ML, sicne MM(free) has no rescan folder ability.

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