i want a widescreen look like on puppy cam for my shoutcast stream!

atxshotcaller1 · 21st January 2006, 01:56

hi my name is dj stanley steel and i know how to do a live webcam stream on shoutcast tv! and now i want the widescreen look like on puppy cam!(y'all can find puppy cam on shoutcast tv) and one day i saw on a live webcam show on sas-tv.com w/dj pylon had that same wide screen look on his show one sunday ago! how did they get the widesrceen look at the resize at 320 x 240?? i like the neat box that the stream is in! just looks nice i want to do to same plz help!!

i want that widescreen type like puppy cam look not the ravetrax type look!!

sns2015 · 21st January 2006, 03:40

I would assume that it was done using avisynth or ffdshow... It doesn't appear to be a live stream, so that is the most likely guess, otherwise they used some sort of editing program to do it for them as well. Why would you want letterbox and not actual widescreen though? I could see if you were switching between 4:3 and 16:9 video, so as to not stretch the 16:9 stuff, but why would you want a whole stream that way?

atxshotcaller1 · 21st January 2006, 04:31

what is avissynth and ffdshow sorry man plz help!

rockouthippie · 21st January 2006, 04:37

Search for these files at sourceforge.net. ffdshow is mpeg4 codecs. I'm not exactly sure how to describe avisynth, sort of a file muxer I guess.

Virtualdub from fcchandler.home.comcast.net is also something you want to play with video.

sankt · 21st January 2006, 04:41

avisynth

AviSynth is a powerful tool for video post-production. It provides almost unlimited ways of editing and processing videos.
www.avisynth.org

ffdshow

ffdshow is DirectShow and VFW codec for decoding/encoding many video and audio formats, including DivX and XviD movies using libavcodec, xvid and other opensourced libraries with a rich set of postprocessing filters.
http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net/tikiw...w_articles.php

VirtualDub

A video capture/processing utility for 32-bit Windows platforms (95/98/ME/NT4/2000/XP), licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL). It lacks the editing power of a general-purpose editor such as Adobe Premiere, but is streamlined for fast linear operations over video.
fcchandler.home.comcast.net

atxshotcaller1 · 21st January 2006, 05:02

dose any one of the programs work w/ nsvcap and a webcam?

rockouthippie · 21st January 2006, 05:26

Nah, you'd use these to create video and then encode it to nsv.

sns2015 · 21st January 2006, 06:08

If you are running a live stream, why do you want letterboxed video anyway? If you have 16:9 content, then use a 16:9 resolution, I still don't quite see the advantage to letterboxing it.

atxshotcaller1 · 21st January 2006, 06:30

im sorry what is 16:9 resolution is that full screen mode?
i want to know how they made it a small wide screen i think it look cool im sorry i dont know i lots about resoution!

i saw streams on shoutcast tv that they resize to 384 x 224,296 x 272 and 480 x 240 i think im just going to resize my shoutcast stream to one of them size!

any one think it will slow down my stream?? i hope not

rockouthippie · 21st January 2006, 06:50

Whatever you pick you'll have to live with, because all the files you encode have to be the same as far as rez, audio bitrate and framerate. So pick carefully.

Also, another thing you should be aware of is that aspect ratio doesn't work, so your aspect is gonna be whatever the pixels say it is... so 320x240 is gonna be 4x3 etc.

I think when you do create your encoding profile, that you want to encode so that artifacting isn't evident.

I looked at about a 500 pixel wide stream recently. It would have looked better if it had been less wide.

I think the ugliest thing is artifacting, so drop the frame rate and the resolution until that's minimal. The additional rez doesn't do any good if artifacts are highly evident.

atxshotcaller1 · 21st January 2006, 08:21

i am now testing my stream if yall want to see it plz go to shotcast tv and look for playing around radio plz help me and tell me what yall think?

sorry im to lazy to make a link for it ill try to make one soon for yall! thanks

atxshotcaller1 · 21st January 2006, 10:43

ok yall i made a link for my webcam stream just click on my Signature(the banner w/ my shoutcast status on it) thanks!

atxshotcaller1 · 22nd January 2006, 06:47

is there any why i can stream live and have that puppy cam widescreen look?

sns2015 · 22nd January 2006, 15:50

Well, you can stream using a widescreen resolution, that when fullscreened will give the exact same look... Or you might be able to set something up using Camtasia or the like.

Jeeper One · 24th January 2006, 20:51

Hi everyone:

I think what he's asking is if he can stream live and have the puppy cam widescreen look - As shown on the Puppy Cam stream. Am I correct?

If so, I'm not sure the owner of that station would appreciate your rebroadcasting their station on yours without asking them first.

There are some stations that will let you do it with no problem at all while others will have a cow the size of Asia if you do and they catch you.

And still there are others who get - with permission - their programming from third party sources and if you were to relay any of THOSE stations during such times when such programming is on the air, you'll have TWO parties to deal with. The station you relayed AND the owner or host of the program that was airing on the station you relayed.

Anyway you look at, it's not cool. So, if you don't want to land in some serious hot water, you'd be best to follow the rules of proper SHOUTcasting.

Just a piece of advice

Cheers

Pat (a.k.a. Jeeper One)

21st January 2006, 01:56	#1
atxshotcaller1 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: austin texas Posts: 23	i want a widescreen look for my live shoutcast stream! hi my name is dj stanley steel and i know how to do a live webcam stream on shoutcast tv! and now i want the widescreen look like on puppy cam!(y'all can find puppy cam on shoutcast tv) and one day i saw on a live webcam show on sas-tv.com w/dj pylon had that same wide screen look on his show one sunday ago! how did they get the widesrceen look at the resize at 320 x 240?? i like the neat box that the stream is in! just looks nice i want to do to same plz help!! i want that widescreen type like puppy cam look not the ravetrax type look!! Last edited by atxshotcaller1; 21st January 2006 at 04:20.

21st January 2006, 04:41	#5
sankt Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: www.ScenicTelevision.com Posts: 2,976	avisynth AviSynth is a powerful tool for video post-production. It provides almost unlimited ways of editing and processing videos. www.avisynth.org ffdshow ffdshow is DirectShow and VFW codec for decoding/encoding many video and audio formats, including DivX and XviD movies using libavcodec, xvid and other opensourced libraries with a rich set of postprocessing filters. http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net/tikiw...w_articles.php VirtualDub A video capture/processing utility for 32-bit Windows platforms (95/98/ME/NT4/2000/XP), licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL). It lacks the editing power of a general-purpose editor such as Adobe Premiere, but is streamlined for fast linear operations over video. fcchandler.home.comcast.net Scenic Television is your ambient window to the world - - www.ScenicTelevision.com

21st January 2006, 06:30	#9
atxshotcaller1 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: austin texas Posts: 23	im sorry what is 16:9 resolution is that full screen mode? i want to know how they made it a small wide screen i think it look cool im sorry i dont know i lots about resoution! i saw streams on shoutcast tv that they resize to 384 x 224,296 x 272 and 480 x 240 i think im just going to resize my shoutcast stream to one of them size! any one think it will slow down my stream?? i hope not Last edited by atxshotcaller1; 21st January 2006 at 06:58.

24th January 2006, 20:51	#15
Jeeper One Major Dude Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 1,055	Hi everyone: I think what he's asking is if he can stream live and have the puppy cam widescreen look - *As shown on the Puppy Cam stream. Am I correct? If so, I'm not sure the owner of that station would appreciate your rebroadcasting their station on yours without asking them first. There are some stations that will let you do it with no problem at all while others will have a cow the size of Asia if you do and they catch you. And still there are others who get - with permission - their programming from third party sources and if you were to relay any of THOSE stations during such times when such programming is on the air, you'll have TWO parties to deal with. The station you relayed AND the owner or host of the program that was airing on the station you relayed. Anyway you look at, it's not* cool. So, if you don't want to land in some serious hot water, you'd be best to follow the rules of proper SHOUTcasting. Just a piece of advice Cheers Pat (a.k.a. Jeeper One) Pat Cook Englewood, CO

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21st January 2006, 03:40	#2
sns2015 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 218	I would assume that it was done using avisynth or ffdshow... It doesn't appear to be a live stream, so that is the most likely guess, otherwise they used some sort of editing program to do it for them as well. Why would you want letterbox and not actual widescreen though? I could see if you were switching between 4:3 and 16:9 video, so as to not stretch the 16:9 stuff, but why would you want a whole stream that way?

21st January 2006, 04:31	#3
atxshotcaller1 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: austin texas Posts: 23	what is avissynth and ffdshow sorry man plz help!

21st January 2006, 04:37	#4
rockouthippie Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 11,002	Search for these files at sourceforge.net. ffdshow is mpeg4 codecs. I'm not exactly sure how to describe avisynth, sort of a file muxer I guess. Virtualdub from fcchandler.home.comcast.net is also something you want to play with video.

21st January 2006, 05:02	#6
atxshotcaller1 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: austin texas Posts: 23	dose any one of the programs work w/ nsvcap and a webcam?

21st January 2006, 05:26	#7
rockouthippie Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 11,002	Nah, you'd use these to create video and then encode it to nsv.

21st January 2006, 06:08	#8
sns2015 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 218	If you are running a live stream, why do you want letterboxed video anyway? If you have 16:9 content, then use a 16:9 resolution, I still don't quite see the advantage to letterboxing it.

21st January 2006, 06:50	#10
rockouthippie Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 11,002	Whatever you pick you'll have to live with, because all the files you encode have to be the same as far as rez, audio bitrate and framerate. So pick carefully. Also, another thing you should be aware of is that aspect ratio doesn't work, so your aspect is gonna be whatever the pixels say it is... so 320x240 is gonna be 4x3 etc. I think when you do create your encoding profile, that you want to encode so that artifacting isn't evident. I looked at about a 500 pixel wide stream recently. It would have looked better if it had been less wide. I think the ugliest thing is artifacting, so drop the frame rate and the resolution until that's minimal. The additional rez doesn't do any good if artifacts are highly evident.

21st January 2006, 08:21	#11
atxshotcaller1 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: austin texas Posts: 23	i am now testing my stream if yall want to see it plz go to shotcast tv and look for playing around radio plz help me and tell me what yall think? sorry im to lazy to make a link for it ill try to make one soon for yall! thanks

21st January 2006, 10:43	#12
atxshotcaller1 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: austin texas Posts: 23	ok yall i made a link for my webcam stream just click on my Signature(the banner w/ my shoutcast status on it) thanks!

22nd January 2006, 06:47	#13
atxshotcaller1 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: austin texas Posts: 23	is there any why i can stream live and have that puppy cam widescreen look?

22nd January 2006, 15:50	#14
sns2015 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 218	Well, you can stream using a widescreen resolution, that when fullscreened will give the exact same look... Or you might be able to set something up using Camtasia or the like.