no longer on shoutcast directory

[Sure Quality]

Hello:

My station has been listed on the shoutcast directory since 2000(or so).

Lately I have noticed that we no longer appear anywhere in the directory. I am just wondering why.

Thanks
Jeffrey Gold
Founder and President
Sure Quality Internet Radio

[Sure Quality]

PS: We are at this IP: http://216.66.69.90:9748/listen.pls

We use EGI Hosting (EGI says we are up and PUBLIC) and we use SWCast for our royalties management. http://streams.swcast.net/launch.cgi...io/lo-band.pls

Thanks for any help/advice.

Jeffrey

[drewbar]

What does the server log say?
Also, the directory has been having some issues as of late.

[Sure Quality]

<05/30/06@05:34:52> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com added me successfully

But we do not appear (and yes, i know it takes about 5 minutes to show up on the directory after a touch, but it's been over 1/2 hour).

Strange, huh?

[BoReTo]

Yes,I have that problem too.....and sometimes give NAK errors...but i can't correct him...

<05/30/06@13:45:55> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com added me successfully

But in yp.shoutcast.com i doesn't find my server...



Tell me how to arrange the problem..

[Evil Lu]

As has been said in numerous other threads, you can't fix the problem. When will you people learn how to search before posting? Read.
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....42#post1943142


I'd be pleased to see the death of the Shoutcast directory just so people quit whining about it.

[Dark Shadow X]

has the guys at shoutcast.com ever decided to fix this problem by getting a whole new site or server.

i mean a brand freakin new one without bugs such as the ever bothersome YP problem everybody is getting, i've been online for quite some time now (4 days straight) and the YP never listed me.

i have all of the config. files correct (in case you are wondering if i have anything wrong)

i recently signed up to "steamfinder.com" but obiously in the past most of my listeners came from the shoutcast YP before streamfinder.

[Sure Quality]

Thank you for the err...ummm...succinct answer, Lu.

Hehe, serious though, thanks for the link.

[streamfinder]

Seeing as yp.shoutcast.com is broken according to most folks - I think it is _on topic_ to mention www.StreamFinder.com the FREE place to list and categorize your streaming audio.

It is not a replacement for yp.shoutcast.com - it just complements its service by listing a lot of shoutcast shows.

[Sure Quality]

Originally posted by streamfinder
Seeing as yp.shoutcast.com is broken according to most folks - I think it is _on topic_ to mention www.StreamFinder.com the FREE place to list and categorize your streaming audio.

It is not a replacement for yp.shoutcast.com - it just complements its service by listing a lot of shoutcast shows.

Just a quick note for anyone using a Royalty Payment agency: I am pretty sure that US (RIAA) regs state that you can only list on a listing service if you are using their software. So, if you use Sam, you can list on Spacial Audio, and if you use Shoutcast Server, you can list on shoutcast...etc.

I don't know if anyone cares (hehe). Just thought I'd throw it in.

[streamfinder]

Do you use a royalty payment agency? What is it?

Originally posted by Sure Quality
Just a quick note for anyone using a Royalty Payment agency: I am pretty sure that US (RIAA) regs state that you can only list on a listing service if you are using their software. So, if you use Sam, you can list on Spacial Audio, and if you use Shoutcast Server, you can list on shoutcast...etc.

I don't know if anyone cares (hehe). Just thought I'd throw it in.

[Sure Quality]

SWcast

[streamfinder]

Originally posted by Sure Quality
SWcast

Do you use them? What is your experience with them? How much does it cost you a month?

[Sure Quality]

It costs us around $100 US/month.

I think they are really lousy, actually. They literally take weeks to reply to email. There is no customer service. We are shopping for a new service. But, for now, any port in a storm. We must be legal because of our content.

[streamfinder]

I was reading their FAQ's and it seems funny that they don't want you to list your station links in any other directory system except their own.... yet... the total monthly bill is compiled from TLA (total listening hours) - seems like they would want to _maximize_ that number and get 101 people listening instead of 100.... just sayin'

[SorceryKid]

Originally posted by streamfinder
I was reading their FAQ's and it seems funny that they don't want you to list your station links in any other directory system except their own.... yet...

I am not sure where you found such information, but it is incorrect. All member broadcasters on SWCast Network may be listed in the SHOUTcast YP. This policy has been described in our Rules and Requirements for some time.

--Randall

[SorceryKid]

Originally posted by Sure Quality
It costs us around $100 US/month.

I think they are really lousy, actually. They literally take weeks to reply to email. There is no customer service.

Sure Quality:

I am sorry that you feel the quality of our service was not to your liking. I have sent you a PM. I would look forward to resolving any questions or concerns you have.

Customer care is a top priority at SWCast Network, and I would like to personally ensure that you are satisfied.

--Randall

[streamfinder]

Maybe I misinterpreted what was on the faq page ...

"Q: Can I submit my station to a directory?

Publishing stream server addresses in outside directory listings like iTunes or Windows Media Guide, etc. is not permitted without prior authorization. Specific exceptions may apply. Please see the Rules and Requirements for complete details."

From: http://www.swcast.net/licensing/faq.html

Originally posted by SorceryKid
I am not sure where you found such information, but it is incorrect. All member broadcasters on SWCast Network may be listed in the SHOUTcast YP. This policy has been described in our Rules and Requirements for some time.

--Randall

[SorceryKid]

Important phrases highlighted:

...without prior authorization. Specific exceptions may apply. Please see the Rules and Requirements for complete details.

--Randall

[Sure Quality]

I wanted to take a moment and apologize to you guys at SWCast for my previous comments. Although my experience was a bit bumpy at first, you guys have shown definate dedication and made major improvements.

I really should have checked the forums at SWCast before I opened my big mouth. I would have seen the incredible improvements your team has made.

My sincere apologies to SWCast.
http://swcast.net Next time I will check my facts first.

Jeffrey Gold

[hackerdork]

and where does swcast fall into shoutcast technical support forum???? since swcast and shoutcast are not the same company or server farms???

[Sure Quality]

I simply felt that it was important to make an apology for some of my previous remarks in this thread and on this forum.

Thanks

[phish420]

Originally posted by Evil Lu
As has been said in numerous other threads, you can't fix the problem. When will you people learn how to search before posting? Read.
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....42#post1943142


I'd be pleased to see the death of the Shoutcast directory just so people quit whining about it.

People DO search, but you have to know exatcly what search term to put in to 'luck out' and get the result that has the thread with your answer. Isnt it easier just to provide links to the answer like you did instead of bitching about stupid stuff?? People dont realize that if you put something in search, you get HUNDREDS of posts, 99% of which do NOT answer your specific question.