Dynamic Library v1.1 Beta

[Lion12]

Originally posted by Joonas
What exactly should you pass nero.exe to achieve this? Or must you send it to nerocmd.exe?

Originally posted by Joonas
tried implementing send-to multiple file paths. Ehm...well it was requested just a little while ago. Please share if the strings are not informative enough...

Cool. That's it! I can burn data and audio cds directly out of dl now. The 'send real filepath' generates exactly the required output string using nerocmd.exe.
Thank you!

[Paparazzi]

Originally posted by Joonas
Beta 27.2
* Ctrl+Tab should work now.
* Down from search should set focus to listview again.

@Paparazzi: Enter won't get any new functionality...not in DL2 at least. Sorry!

The Ctrl+Tab still does not seem to be cycling through the different windows ... starting from the Main window, it cycles until it reaches the DL and then stops!

Yes, the down arrow moves to the list view! This seems to help me for the time being as from here I can hit the Enter Key!

The TAB key moves from the "Search" edit box to the "Tree View" and back. should it not cycle through the "List View" as well?

@Taz: What did you mean by "(mechanically) ENTER-ing for input" ... Maybe if I understood that, it would help me!

Thanks and Cheers!

[MÆST]

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but it seems DL isn't recognizing a bunch of mp3s from one band. I'm guessing it's due to the weird band/file name. My folder structure goes: ALBUMS -> And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead -> Worlds Apart

If I view that folder in windows explorer there's a bunch of mp3s. The unique thing is that their names go something like: ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead - Worlds Apart.mp3

Since I'm not noticing that problem anywhere else, I'm guessing the "..." in the beginning of the file name is messing something up somewhere.

[Joonas]

Originally posted by MÆST
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but it seems DL isn't recognizing a bunch of mp3s from one band. I'm guessing it's due to the weird band/file name. My folder structure goes: ALBUMS -> And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead -> Worlds Apart

If I view that folder in windows explorer there's a bunch of mp3s. The unique thing is that their names go something like: ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead - Worlds Apart.mp3

Since I'm not noticing that problem anywhere else, I'm guessing the "..." in the beginning of the file name is messing something up somewhere.

Ehm, well...I can't rename files to begin with a '.'. Windows treats the '.' as the beginning of the extension and it asks for a filename...

[Joonas]

Originally posted by Paparazzi
The Ctrl+Tab still does not seem to be cycling through the different windows ... starting from the Main window, it cycles until it reaches the DL and then stops!

Yes, the down arrow moves to the list view! This seems to help me for the time being as from here I can hit the Enter Key!

The TAB key moves from the "Search" edit box to the "Tree View" and back. should it not cycle through the "List View" as well?

Thanks and Cheers!

I would guess you have some other plugin interferring or something...as from 27.2 both Ctrl+Tab and just Tab to cycle controls works fine.

[Dick65]

Joonas
...as from 27.2 both Ctrl+Tab and just Tab to cycle controls works fine.

Which I happily confirm !

[TazDevil]

both Ctrl+Tab and just Tab to cycle controls works fine here too...

and down key in search bar, thanks

@Paparazzi.
What i meant is that i dont usually use a "Search" Button to perform a search, i press Enter key in the search box which is the same. and i do it so fast that i hit ENTER key unconsiously

it is the way i type / perform searches

well in your situation, from the search box you could, you the keyboard by pressing:
DOWN -> moves focus to list view
CTRL+A -> selects all items
ENTER -> plays all items
SHIFT+ENTER -> enqueqes all items
...
(move listview command shortcut keys on the menu)

hope it helps

[TazDevil]

1. Joonas, with the DOWN key is it possible to select first item in the list view as well ?

2. Also what you think if the CTRL+TAB order was ?
search->listview->treeview
instead of
search->treeview->listview

3. also the button set Play|Enqueque|Misc shouldn't get keyboard focus too ?
it wouldnt be needed if the following was considered

4. Also i would suggest a shorcut key for helping Paparazzi out here.

Play Button -> CTRL+ALT+ENTER
Enqueque Button -> SHIFT+ALT+ENTER
or smt like that - a 3 key combination
(and Paparazzi can apply button actions to the whole listview, though DL settings)

[Joonas]

Originally posted by TazDevil
1. Joonas, with the DOWN key is it possible to select first item in the list view as well ?

Yeah I can fix that...though only if no item is selected perhaps?

2. Also what you think if the CTRL+TAB order was ?
search->listview->treeview
instead of
search->treeview->listview

Well maybe...I just find it more logical to have it down->right than down->left...maybe because Westerners read from left to right

Is there any other opinions on this?

3. also the button set Play|Enqueque|Misc shouldn't get keyboard focus too ?
it wouldnt be needed if the following was considered

4. Also i would suggest a shorcut key for helping Paparazzi out here.

Play Button -> CTRL+ALT+ENTER
Enqueque Button -> SHIFT+ALT+ENTER
or smt like that - a 3 key combination
(and Paparazzi can apply button actions to the whole listview, though DL settings)

I would prefer the Ctrl+Alt+Enter then...though I suppose logical would apply to the buttons getting focus.

Opinions?

[TazDevil]

1. Yes if no item is selected, i forgot that (also the same if tab was pressed, well if the listview gets focus and no item selected, select the first in view)


3. i prefer key combination too, then TAB would get very messy
and some kind of tooltip for the buttons to show shortcut would be nice !
EDIT 2
if convenient i would appreciate if these shortcuts could be edited throught the ini. i would prefer Ctrl+P and Ctrl+E

EDIT
2. heh i read from left to right too, but i always think clockwise that is why i am asking thin, well its ok though
(in theory after searching you would need the listview instead of the treeview so it is 2 TABS for you and 1 TAB for me :S)

[Joonas]

Originally posted by TazDevil
1. Yes if no item is selected, i forgot that (also the same if tab was pressed, well if the listview gets focus and no item selected, select the first in view)


3. i prefer key combination too, then TAB would get very messy
and some kind of tooltip for the buttons to show shortcut would be nice !
EDIT 2
if convenient i would appreciate if these shortcuts could be edited throught the ini. i would prefer Ctrl+P and Ctrl+E

Ctrl+P should open the preferences though...so it will be more along the line of some combination...Ctrl+Alt-whatever..

EDIT
2. heh i read from left to right too, but i always think clockwise that is why i am asking thin, well its ok though
(in theory after searching you would need the listview instead of the treeview so it is 2 TABS for you and 1 TAB for me :S)

In reality no...cause I never use the keyboard...the mouse is there for a reason

[Paparazzi]

After having got the hint that another plugin must be playing mischief, I disabled plugins one by one by renaming them.

I found that the Ctrl+Tab was not working as a result of the Jump to File Extra 0.97R build 11. That disabled, the Ctrl+Tab started dancing its way round all windows

The Tab however was a different thing! With all gen, ml and vis out of the way still refused to complete a circle. It kept moving from the search box to the tree view and then to a ding sound. Another tab and it goes back into the search box. Therefore, I've got starting from the search box ..1 Tab ->Tree View, next Tab -> A ding sound and 3rd tab -> back to search box. ... Although the when the ding sound comes, the cursor is not seen anywhere, a down arrow puts the cursor into the list view .... but then that I guess is the way the down arrow has been taught ie. move to list view if in search box or anywhere else except tree view!

Cheers!

[Joonas]

Originally posted by Paparazzi
After having got the hint that another plugin must be playing mischief, I disabled plugins one by one by renaming them.

I found that the Ctrl+Tab was not working as a result of the Jump to File Extra 0.97R build 11. That disabled, the Ctrl+Tab started dancing its way round all windows

The Tab however was a different thing! With all gen, ml and vis out of the way still refused to complete a circle. It kept moving from the search box to the tree view and then to a ding sound. Another tab and it goes back into the search box. Therefore, I've got starting from the search box ..1 Tab ->Tree View, next Tab -> A ding sound and 3rd tab -> back to search box. ... Although the when the ding sound comes, the cursor is not seen anywhere, a down arrow puts the cursor into the list view .... but then that I guess is the way the down arrow has been taught ie. move to list view if in search box or anywhere else except tree view!

Cheers!

Yeah weird...it worked before but now I experience the same thing. Will look at that code next time.

[TazDevil]

Originally posted by Paparazzi
After having got the hint that another plugin must be playing mischief, I disabled plugins one by one by renaming them.

I found that the Ctrl+Tab was not working as a result of the Jump to File Extra 0.97R build 11. That disabled, the Ctrl+Tab started dancing its way round all windows

The Tab however was a different thing! With all gen, ml and vis out of the way still refused to complete a circle. It kept moving from the search box to the tree view and then to a ding sound. Another tab and it goes back into the search box. Therefore, I've got starting from the search box ..1 Tab ->Tree View, next Tab -> A ding sound and 3rd tab -> back to search box. ... Although the when the ding sound comes, the cursor is not seen anywhere, a down arrow puts the cursor into the list view .... but then that I guess is the way the down arrow has been taught ie. move to list view if in search box or anywhere else except tree view!

Cheers!

as for the ctrl-tab
i have Jump to File Extra 0.97R build 11. as well and it works fine with ALL windows open

as for the tab, it also produces dings on every time i press it !, but the focus change is correct

[Joonas]

Originally posted by TazDevil
as for the ctrl-tab
i have Jump to File Extra 0.97R build 11. as well and it works fine with ALL windows open

Yes I use JTFE Build 11 too but it is likely a load order bug then...there are some issues with JTFE but it does some serious hacking into Winamp too so that is not so hard to believe

[Paparazzi]

Originally posted by Joonas
.... but it is likely a load order bug then

Well, I guess that would be it! In my PC at home, those keys work as it should!

[Joonas]

Beta 27.3
* Ctrl+Shift+Enter (Enqueue button) & Ctrl+Alt+Enter (Play button) shortcuts implemented.
* Ctrl+Tab & Tab should work now.

[TazDevil]

Joonas

the buttons in preferenses for select all and none for filetypes to not get correct label

Also would it be possible to change the button shortcut keys from the ini... (i would like to configure it for Alt+E and ALt+P if they are not pre-configured for smt else)

thanks

[Joonas]

Originally posted by TazDevil
the buttons in preferenses for select all and none for filetypes to not get correct label

Okay, fixed next release.

Also would it be possible to change the button shortcut keys from the ini... (i would like to configure it for Alt+E and ALt+P if they are not pre-configured for smt else)

thanks

Think I posted before that this wouldn't be implemented...too much of a hassle.

[TazDevil]

Think I posted before that this wouldn't be implemented...too much of a hassle.

nope but fair enough i understand the hassle (would be nice though)

[2pacalypse]

can some1 tell me there nerocmd parameters?

i was using (M is my CDRW drive):
--write --drivename M --real --audio --image %s --cd_text --underrun_prot --detect_non_empty_disc --disable_eject_after_erase --disable_eject

also tried it with image %s as the last parameter ie none of the eject/cd_text etc after. This successfully burned the disc with the correct number of tracks, just i realised that each track was only 2kb. i havent had more time to play around with it but the tracks play which doesnt make sense (they are .cda)

if some1 could also tell me the parameters for a data disc would be usefull too.

Another thing (this only occurs on my XP pro PC) but the send to menu works fine in DL but in the play list it only displays "<add new>" without the icons + text of the menu. also in the pref's in general when i click select all winamp crashes out (again on XP Pro beta 27.2, will try on 27.3 tonight)

[Dick65]

Joonas
Well maybe...I just find it more logical to have it down->right than down->left...maybe because Westerners read from left to right

Is there any other opinions on this?

I agree with TazDevil. I would have expected it to move clockwise, i.e. search > list > tree. And actually I cannot get used to the way it is moving now. Always have to pay attention where that bloody cursor is.
So if you could change that, that'll be nice.

[TazDevil]

I agree with TazDevil. I would have expected it to move clockwise, i.e. search > list > tree. And actually I cannot get used to the way it is moving now. Always have to pay attention where that bloody cursor is.
So if you could change that, that'll be nice.

See Joonas ?

Anyway i am having problems with adding new apps to send to
The app should be added to the bottom of the list, instead it is added first, which messes up the rest of the individual application settings, all settings are -1 application for one new application added

And if i modify settings from fist possition, the original applications settings are modifyed
So when you enter Preferences again it is all messed up !

It would be better if it was added last and selected so correct application settings are modifyed, so that above applications are unmodified...

Also i noticed that Save works only for individual app modifications, not for all ?

[Lion12]

Originally posted by 2pacalypse
can some1 tell me there nerocmd parameters?

i was using (M is my CDRW drive):
--write --drivename M --real --audio --image %s --cd_text --underrun_prot --detect_non_empty_disc --disable_eject_after_erase --disable_eject

also tried it with image %s as the last parameter ie none of the eject/cd_text etc after. This successfully burned the disc with the correct number of tracks, just i realised that each track was only 2kb. i havent had more time to play around with it but the tracks play which doesnt make sense (they are .cda)

??? .cda is the CD Audio Track Shortcut file - as a matter of fact for every audio compact disc - I don't see your point.

Originally posted by 2pacalypse
if some1 could also tell me the parameters for a data disc would be usefull too.

Just use the iso disc parameter... They are completely described in the nerocmd sdk.

You have a CD-RW drive - here's a simple example to test this with a CD-RW including erase cd if it is not empty - so be careful:

code:
--write --drivename XXX --real --speed YYY --iso ZZZ --detect_non_empty_cdrw 

--enable_abort --underrun_prot --create_iso_fs %s --force_erase_cdrw --disable_eject

XXX is your drivename, YYY speed of burning, ZZZ cd iso name and use send real filepaths.

This only works for a few files (30 to 40 at my system)! If I try to send more files it does nothing. Number of files is dependent on the length of the filename strings passed I suppose.

@joonas: Any options to improve this?

Originally posted by 2pacalypse Another thing (this only occurs on my XP pro PC) but the send to menu works fine in DL but in the play list it only displays "<add new>" without the icons + text of the menu. also in the pref's in general when i click select all winamp crashes out (again on XP Pro beta 27.2, will try on 27.3 tonight)

<Add new> only adds a new send to playlist! Not a send to app!

Egad! Hope you have not destroyed something. Think <Add new> should be renamed to <Add playlist>.
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[Joonas]

Originally posted by Dick65
I agree with TazDevil. I would have expected it to move clockwise, i.e. search > list > tree. And actually I cannot get used to the way it is moving now. Always have to pay attention where that bloody cursor is.
So if you could change that, that'll be nice.

Well I could change it...but I think it's a weird thing...I mean Explorer also works like this...

from address->tree->list

[edit]
Beta 27.4
* Some improvements to send-to in pref.
* Changed <Add new> to <Add new playlist>
* Hopefully ascending/descending is also saved now with Last clicked selected.

About send-to parameters getting too long...it might be implemented that you can specify the path separately...

does nerocmd.exe for example support this? That you specify the path for all files?
[/edit]

[Lion12]

Originally posted by Joonas
About send-to parameters getting too long...it might be implemented that you can specify the path separately...

does nerocmd.exe for example support this? That you specify the path for all files?

It says [<disk file 1> <disk file 2> …] but it supports standard wildcards like \TestFiles\*.* and a --recursive flag to include all subfolders of a specific folder.

Donno, but what do you want to do? This is useless if you want to burn a playlist with files from very diffrent folders. All that might help is to export a playlist first and and burn it after that. Ok, in that case this might help. But there's really no absolute need to do this through DL - exept things will be simplyfied with that in some kind of way.

Edit: There's something i forgot. It supports parameter files. Maybe this is a point to get on. But maybe that will be to a dl plugin.

[2pacalypse]

??? .cda is the CD Audio Track Shortcut file - as a matter of fact for every audio compact disc - I don't see your point.

my point was a mp3 file 4mins long burned to a audio CD should not be 2kb in size but yet it still plays fine.

cheers for the parameters i'll try them later. Both those bugs i mentioned have gone after a reinstall of winamp and upgraded to the latest beta.

[Joonas]

Originally posted by 2pacalypse
my point was a mp3 file 4mins long burned to a audio CD should not be 2kb in size but yet it still plays fine.

It's because it's not a data-file. The cda-file only points at the specific point on the CD where the track begins.

[telly]

Can anyone figure out how to have DL SendTo working with Red Chair's Irivium ? I don`t even know if it's actually possible.

[pile0nades]

Has this problem been fixed in DL 2.0 beta?

When I switch to a modern skin, close/open winamp, switch back to classic skin, the DL window is smaller than it was before. My desktop has a 1280 by 800 resolution, and I am using DL 1.03.

[Joonas]

Originally posted by pile0nades
Has this problem been fixed in DL 2.0 beta?

When I switch to a modern skin, close/open winamp, switch back to classic skin, the DL window is smaller than it was before. My desktop has a 1280 by 800 resolution, and I am using DL 1.03.

That is not a bug really...DL tries to save the size of the DL window no matter if it it's in modern or classic...and if you have a modern skin DL that is smaller that means DL will be smaller when you switch back to classic...

[mrym]

request for the "send to app" option.
is it possible to send tags(title/artist/albumname) and filename to app?
for example, send "http://www.google.com/search?q=lyrics+artist+title"
parameter to browser can be easily found lyrics.
"http://www.google.com/images?q=artist+album"
parameter can be easily found album cover.
currently i'm using shaneh's gen_action for those searches.
it would be great if dl could do this.

as for the language file,
[Preferences]102=Parameters: still can't be changed.
attached up-to-date english lng file instead of joonas.

[Paparazzi]

Back to shortcuts and a little more ...

1) Why is it that when I press Ctrl & +, the columns widths of all columns (including those hidden) open out or are resized? Yes, the same thing happens in the ML too. I was thinking that maybe I could have the font size increase with those keys as is with the Pl, but it does not happen and maybe this has already been discussed

2) Ctrl + D ... thats supposed to toggle the "Double Size Mode" ... but what happens is that DL opens up if it was closed and vice versa! Therefore the DL is now invoked/ closed with both the Alt+D and Ctrl+D .... the only difference being that Alt+D works on any window while Ctrl+D works with all except when the PL has focus. Also, the Main Player does not double in size as a result of this!

//edit// The player not doubling in size happens only with the modern skin. With the classic skin, the player doubles AND DL gets switched on/off as per the previous status!

[Joonas]

Originally posted by Paparazzi
Back to shortcuts and a little more ...

1) Why is it that when I press Ctrl & +, the columns widths of all columns (including those hidden) open out or are resized? Yes, the same thing happens in the ML too. I was thinking that maybe I could have the font size increase with those keys as is with the Pl, but it does not happen and maybe this has already been discussed

Check this happens in Windows Explorer too...this is some standard for listview controls I gather...
I might see if I can override it though.

2) Ctrl + D ... thats supposed to toggle the "Double Size Mode" ... but what happens is that DL opens up if it was closed and vice versa! Therefore the DL is now invoked/ closed with both the Alt+D and Ctrl+D .... the only difference being that Alt+D works on any window while Ctrl+D works with all except when the PL has focus. Also, the Main Player does not double in size as a result of this!

//edit// The player not doubling in size happens only with the modern skin. With the classic skin, the player doubles AND DL gets switched on/off as per the previous status!

That's a bit strange...will look at it.

[Paparazzi]

Originally posted by Joonas
Check this happens in Windows Explorer too...this is some standard for listview controls I gather...
I might see if I can override it though.

In Windows Explorer too it resizes columns, but only those that columns that are NOT hidden gets resized. In the case of DL though, columns that are hidden gets displayed and then resized.

However, it would be nice if neither happens and the Winamp style of increasing of font size occurs!

Cheers

[Joonas]

Beta 27.5
* Fixed Ctrl+D issue. Only Alt+D should trigger DL on/off now.
* Add url dialog should be on top of DL now.
* Ctrl+ and Ctrl+- should change font size IF settings are to use Playlist font.

[Joonas]

Can I take it that the silence signals a pretty stable release?

[mrym]

yep, pretty stable so far.

could you please comment about my previous post?

[Joonas]

Originally posted by mrym
[B]request for the "send to app" option.
is it possible to send tags(title/artist/albumname) and filename to app?
for example, send "http://www.google.com/search?q=lyrics+artist+title"
parameter to browser can be easily found lyrics.
"http://www.google.com/images?q=artist+album"
parameter can be easily found album cover.
currently i'm using shaneh's gen_action for those searches.
it would be great if dl could do this.

I've thought about it. I haven't had time to attempt any implementation that's all... Will comment it more when I get around to it.

[billyvnilly]

Hey joonas,
I was just curious if you could include something similar to "generate html playlist" in future version of dl (DL3 perhaps). something that would export as columns rather than ATF string.