Nsv Iptv

sankt · 7th February 2007, 22:05

There are several open source projects for creating media set top entertainment boxes from existing computers. ( MythTV, Freevo, Mysettopbox, ETC. )

One of the problems with existing open source P2P streaming systems is they rely on single node to node data transfers and not multiple data transfers ( swarm streaming. )

Nuvio One is a European IPTV set top box manufacturer that will be relying on a open source P2P swarm stream system for content delivery over its private network. ( Tribler streaming )

Why not utilize a existing GPL media set project, incorporate tribler streaming for true p2p swarm stream content delivery. and add the functionality of Mplayer of Xine which fully supports VP3, VP6.1, VP6.2 - MP3, AAC, AAC Plus video and audio codecs.

The project would be a wining situation for every one and generate a huge following.

CharredPC · 7th February 2007, 23:58

I'm trying to convince the creators of TVU Player to do just that, though with a VideoLAN core instead of Mplayer. I use x264/AAC+ NSV on my stream, with VideoLAN used as the main player- P2P would be awesome and save us Shoutcast relay server costs!

They (TVU) have a decent following (possibly the most popular Streaming P2P system currently) but they only allow Windows Media Format currently... can we say, yuck??

sankt · 8th February 2007, 00:40

TVU is closed source / proprietary single "use" software system.

Myth TV ( and the other GPL clones ) are a complete audio video media center. ( Some with web interaction capability. )

CharredPC · 8th February 2007, 01:19

Very true, didn't mean to say otherwise. I was just commenting on the combination premise you brought up of a universal media player (Mplayer) and a P2P streaming method... and my hopeful vision of a multi-codec system that would accept NSV.

phed · 8th February 2007, 04:42

mplayer is hardly an alternative. i doubt it is built to handle swarming as this isn't on the codec layer, nor is it normal streaming.

However, I could think of a way to do this. You have a local application that you connect to (eg. localhost/listen.pls)w with your favourite stream video player such as winamp or mplayer. This file is a stream which is being constructed by p2p packets which a tracker follows. I don't know of any general purpose p2p systems however.

sankt · 8th February 2007, 19:55

What I am referring to is a linux distro designed like Myth TV or Freevo that incorporates both Mplayer and Tribler P2P swarm streaming.

This would be a complete media center that incorporates the latest advances in P2P streaming technology and audio / video codec utilization.

Mplayer does supports other open source and proprietary P2P stream applications.

rockouthippie · 8th February 2007, 22:14

For you non unix hacks, Beyond TV is a great PVR product.

I've talked to a few people involved in high volume data traffic. Invariably, and in my own experience, P2P as a reliable means of transmitting large amounts of data is "too much of a hassle".

Ever try to tell someone how to configure a router for torrents?.

In my site, using Windows instead of NSV made my tech support go from nightmare to zero. If you think loading a simple activex control is a problem for people, try more complex stuff.

To gain a broad audience, you should assume people don't know anything and won't install anything. In my experience this is a safe assumption.

Some of the ipod software around that will automatically download podcast torrents as indicated from an RSS feed is interesting.

I think linear television is a dead idea anyway. I never watch live tv, I use mythtv or Beyond TV to grab what I want and watch it when I want.

When I do download a torrent, I download it right to my beyond tv directory, so it becomes available to the TV as soon as it finishes.

Inedible Bulk · 9th February 2007, 05:39

TVUplayer seems to be partly based on VLC media player but does not refer to either the GPL or to the VideoLAN Team, making it an illegal use of open source software:

* 110 of the 111 files present in the /plugins folder are taken from VLC media player 0.8.4a for Windows.
* libtrivial_channel_mixer_plugin.dll present in the plugins folder is probably taken from a nightly build of version 0.8.6 of VLC media player.
* activex1.dll in the activex/ directory is probably taken from a nightly build of version 0.8.6 of VLC media player.

CharredPC · 9th February 2007, 18:06

You're quoting from Wiki, and I think that's old information. Unless you're talking about internal segments of the actual executable, the TVU Player installation doesn't even have a /plugins directory. Also, it's pretty obvious after using it that the playback is entirely WMP-based; it has the same flaws, bugs and glitches, not to mention that changing certain WMP settings effects TVU playback.

7th February 2007, 22:05	#1
sankt Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: SCVI . NET Posts: 2,833	Nsv Iptv There are several open source projects for creating media set top entertainment boxes from existing computers. ( MythTV, Freevo, Mysettopbox, ETC. ) One of the problems with existing open source P2P streaming systems is they rely on single node to node data transfers and not multiple data transfers ( swarm streaming. ) Nuvio One is a European IPTV set top box manufacturer that will be relying on a open source P2P swarm stream system for content delivery over its private network. ( Tribler streaming ) Why not utilize a existing GPL media set project, incorporate tribler streaming for true p2p swarm stream content delivery. and add the functionality of Mplayer of Xine which fully supports VP3, VP6.1, VP6.2 - MP3, AAC, AAC Plus video and audio codecs. The project would be a wining situation for every one and generate a huge following. Internet Broadcasting - Internet Streaming Guides

8th February 2007, 00:40	#3
sankt Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: SCVI . NET Posts: 2,833	TVU is closed source / proprietary single "use" software system. Myth TV ( and the other GPL clones ) are a complete audio video media center. ( Some with web interaction capability. ) Internet Broadcasting - Internet Streaming Guides

8th February 2007, 19:55	#6
sankt Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: SCVI . NET Posts: 2,833	What I am referring to is a linux distro designed like Myth TV or Freevo that incorporates both Mplayer and Tribler P2P swarm streaming. This would be a complete media center that incorporates the latest advances in P2P streaming technology and audio / video codec utilization. Mplayer does supports other open source and proprietary P2P stream applications. Internet Broadcasting - Internet Streaming Guides

8th February 2007, 22:14	#7
rockouthippie Forum King Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 10,586	For you non unix hacks, Beyond TV is a great PVR product. I've talked to a few people involved in high volume data traffic. Invariably, and in my own experience, P2P as a reliable means of transmitting large amounts of data is "too much of a hassle". Ever try to tell someone how to configure a router for torrents?. In my site, using Windows instead of NSV made my tech support go from nightmare to zero. If you think loading a simple activex control is a problem for people, try more complex stuff. To gain a broad audience, you should assume people don't know anything and won't install anything. In my experience this is a safe assumption. Some of the ipod software around that will automatically download podcast torrents as indicated from an RSS feed is interesting. I think linear television is a dead idea anyway. I never watch live tv, I use mythtv or Beyond TV to grab what I want and watch it when I want. When I do download a torrent, I download it right to my beyond tv directory, so it becomes available to the TV as soon as it finishes. Global Movies and TV God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to hide the bodies of people who pissed me off. Last edited by rockouthippie; 8th February 2007 at 22:34.

9th February 2007, 05:39	#8
Inedible Bulk Forum King Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: You're the man now dog Posts: 2,303	TVUplayer seems to be partly based on VLC media player but does not refer to either the GPL or to the VideoLAN Team, making it an illegal use of open source software: * 110 of the 111 files present in the /plugins folder are taken from VLC media player 0.8.4a for Windows. * libtrivial_channel_mixer_plugin.dll present in the plugins folder is probably taken from a nightly build of version 0.8.6 of VLC media player. * activex1.dll in the activex/ directory is probably taken from a nightly build of version 0.8.6 of VLC media player. Originally posted by yeshuawatso : ...get Nullsoft to [accept] new moderators? ... election? ... If Inedible Bulk is the candidate, then I give my vote.

7th February 2007, 23:58	#2
CharredPC Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 78	I'm trying to convince the creators of TVU Player to do just that, though with a VideoLAN core instead of Mplayer. I use x264/AAC+ NSV on my stream, with VideoLAN used as the main player- P2P would be awesome and save us Shoutcast relay server costs! They (TVU) have a decent following (possibly the most popular Streaming P2P system currently) but they only allow Windows Media Format currently... can we say, yuck??

8th February 2007, 01:19	#4
CharredPC Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 78	Very true, didn't mean to say otherwise. I was just commenting on the combination premise you brought up of a universal media player (Mplayer) and a P2P streaming method... and my hopeful vision of a multi-codec system that would accept NSV.

8th February 2007, 04:42	#5
phed Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: norway, oslo Posts: 5	mplayer is hardly an alternative. i doubt it is built to handle swarming as this isn't on the codec layer, nor is it normal streaming. However, I could think of a way to do this. You have a local application that you connect to (eg. localhost/listen.pls)w with your favourite stream video player such as winamp or mplayer. This file is a stream which is being constructed by p2p packets which a tracker follows. I don't know of any general purpose p2p systems however.

9th February 2007, 18:06	#9
CharredPC Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 78	You're quoting from Wiki, and I think that's old information. Unless you're talking about internal segments of the actual executable, the TVU Player installation doesn't even have a /plugins directory. Also, it's pretty obvious after using it that the playback is entirely WMP-based; it has the same flaws, bugs and glitches, not to mention that changing certain WMP settings effects TVU playback.

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