Accented characters in Shoutcast broadcast?

beerslayer · 13th May 2000, 04:16

This is a problem I've been seeing for some time now:

I have a server on an internal network that is broadcasting a program using Shoutcast v1.5.0, which can be picked up by a number of Winamp client machines using v2.62 on the same network.

Some of the song titles are in French, which uses accented characters (é, è, à, ç, ô, etc.). These accented characters are not displayed properly on the Winamp client side - they are replaced by something resembling a 'y' (ASCII 255???).

Note that these characters are displayed perfectly on the machine sending the program, even in the scrolling taskbar button. It is at the receiving side that they do not appear correctly.

I'm guessing that they are probably sent that way, making this a Shoutcast issue rather than a Winamp issue, but I didn't see a similar board under Shoutcast to post the issue to.

-- The Beerslayer

beerslayer · 20th May 2000, 02:53

Has anyone else seen this problem? Please add your tales of woe to this bug report in order to encourage the fine folks at Winamp to fix this problem...

-- The Beerslayer

23rd May 2000, 21:28

yes i have similar problems when broadcasting artists like husker du, bjork, and u-ziq (with the 2 dots over the u's, o's, and the "mu" symbol). this has been occuring for well over a year, and i've sent bug reports to shoutcast many times. to no avail. it's a simple fix, shoutcast, please handle it. thanks, dudes.

-j

beerslayer · 30th May 2000, 03:55

Thanks, Afx, for your feedback...

Now, maybe if we can keep adding to this thread every few days so that more people see it, perhaps we can generate more complaints so that the wonderful, ultra-responsive gods* at Winamp will take pity on us mere mortals and fix the damn thing!

-- The Beerslayer

* - It never hurts to suck up...

Mr. Ice · 30th May 2000, 04:53

1) ascii 255 looks like a blank space.
2) it's a shoutcast bug. as you said yourself, winamp displays the name just fine.
3) don't bump a thread. it's annoying.

beerslayer · 1st June 2000, 05:08

to "Mr. Ice":
1) Not true. In a DOS window it does, but many other programs, including apparently Winamp, display the character as a lower-case 'y' with an umlaut (two dots) over it. If you doubt me, open the accessory Character Map and select almost any TrueType font (try Times New Roman).
2) Your point? If I'm not mistaken, it's the same people developing both, and there is no equivalent forum at the Shoutcast site. And at any rate, it is the interaction between Shoutcast and Winamp that is in question here.
3) It is utterly irrelevant to me whether you are annoyed or not.

And it makes more sense to keep this thread alive than to have to create a new one. How many other duplicate threads are out there?

-- The Beerslayer

12th June 2000, 04:55

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr. Ice:
1) ascii 255 looks like a blank space.
2) it's a shoutcast bug. as you said yourself, winamp displays the name just fine.
3) don't bump a thread. it's annoying.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

1) hey mr. ice, now that there's a shoutcast forum, why not move this thread over there so that the shoutcast people can fix this punk ass bug that makes us shoutcast dj's look stupid.
2) don't be a dick. it's annoying.
2) thanks dude, you're the greatest.

-j

Mr. Ice · 12th June 2000, 10:30

beerslayer:
1) the ascii code 255 is a blank space. open notepad. press the alt key, then hit 255. you will get a null space. to get the ÿ character, you have to use the extended ascii sequence of alt and 0255.

2) no longer applicable, but the bug still has nothing to do with winamp.

3) it shouldn't be utterly irrelevant to you, especially since i can lock this thread with the click of my mouse. threads that get bumped get locked. it's a common practice on every board i've ever seen. and most of the time the person who bumped it gets a temp ban from the forum if they do it more than once.

afx114:
1) i'll do that as soon as i finish this post.

2) i guess you're lucky i'm being a nice dick today.

beerslayer · 2nd March 2001, 22:26

FWIW, this problem does seem to be fixed in SHOUTcast v1.8.0. Once I upgraded both the server and the plugin to the 1.8.0 version, accented characters in the display were shown correctly.

Thanks, Nullsoft, for fixing this one!

-- The Beerslayer

2nd March 2001, 22:26	#9
beerslayer Junior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Northern California Posts: 35	FWIW, this problem does seem to be fixed in SHOUTcast v1.8.0. Once I upgraded both the server and the plugin to the 1.8.0 version, accented characters in the display were shown correctly. Thanks, Nullsoft, for fixing this one! -- The Beerslayer -- Jeff -- aka The Eternal Newbie ---------------------------- There is nothing so dangerous as an idea when it is the only one you have.

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13th May 2000, 04:16	#1
beerslayer Junior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Northern California Posts: 35	This is a problem I've been seeing for some time now: I have a server on an internal network that is broadcasting a program using Shoutcast v1.5.0, which can be picked up by a number of Winamp client machines using v2.62 on the same network. Some of the song titles are in French, which uses accented characters (é, è, à, ç, ô, etc.). These accented characters are not displayed properly on the Winamp client side - they are replaced by something resembling a 'y' (ASCII 255???). Note that these characters are displayed perfectly on the machine sending the program, even in the scrolling taskbar button. It is at the receiving side that they do not appear correctly. I'm guessing that they are probably sent that way, making this a Shoutcast issue rather than a Winamp issue, but I didn't see a similar board under Shoutcast to post the issue to. -- The Beerslayer

20th May 2000, 02:53	#2
beerslayer Junior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Northern California Posts: 35	Has anyone else seen this problem? Please add your tales of woe to this bug report in order to encourage the fine folks at Winamp to fix this problem... -- The Beerslayer

23rd May 2000, 21:28	#3
afx114 Guest Posts: n/a	yes i have similar problems when broadcasting artists like husker du, bjork, and u-ziq (with the 2 dots over the u's, o's, and the "mu" symbol). this has been occuring for well over a year, and i've sent bug reports to shoutcast many times. to no avail. it's a simple fix, shoutcast, please handle it. thanks, dudes. -j

30th May 2000, 03:55	#4
beerslayer Junior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Northern California Posts: 35	Thanks, Afx, for your feedback... Now, maybe if we can keep adding to this thread every few days so that more people see it, perhaps we can generate more complaints so that the wonderful, ultra-responsive gods* at Winamp will take pity on us mere mortals and fix the damn thing! -- The Beerslayer * - It never hurts to suck up...

30th May 2000, 04:53	#5
Mr. Ice Captain Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: USA Posts: 763	1) ascii 255 looks like a blank space. 2) it's a shoutcast bug. as you said yourself, winamp displays the name just fine. 3) don't bump a thread. it's annoying.

1st June 2000, 05:08	#6
beerslayer Junior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Northern California Posts: 35	to "Mr. Ice": 1) Not true. In a DOS window it does, but many other programs, including apparently Winamp, display the character as a lower-case 'y' with an umlaut (two dots) over it. If you doubt me, open the accessory Character Map and select almost any TrueType font (try Times New Roman). 2) Your point? If I'm not mistaken, it's the same people developing both, and there is no equivalent forum at the Shoutcast site. And at any rate, it is the interaction between Shoutcast and Winamp that is in question here. 3) It is utterly irrelevant to me whether you are annoyed or not. And it makes more sense to keep this thread alive than to have to create a new one. How many other duplicate threads are out there? -- The Beerslayer

12th June 2000, 04:55	#7
afx114 Guest Posts: n/a	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr. Ice: 1) ascii 255 looks like a blank space. 2) it's a shoutcast bug. as you said yourself, winamp displays the name just fine. 3) don't bump a thread. it's annoying.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> 1) hey mr. ice, now that there's a shoutcast forum, why not move this thread over there so that the shoutcast people can fix this punk ass bug that makes us shoutcast dj's look stupid. 2) don't be a dick. it's annoying. 2) thanks dude, you're the greatest. -j

12th June 2000, 10:30	#8
Mr. Ice Captain Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: USA Posts: 763	beerslayer: 1) the ascii code 255 is a blank space. open notepad. press the alt key, then hit 255. you will get a null space. to get the ÿ character, you have to use the extended ascii sequence of alt and 0255. 2) no longer applicable, but the bug still has nothing to do with winamp. 3) it shouldn't be utterly irrelevant to you, especially since i can lock this thread with the click of my mouse. threads that get bumped get locked. it's a common practice on every board i've ever seen. and most of the time the person who bumped it gets a temp ban from the forum if they do it more than once. afx114: 1) i'll do that as soon as i finish this post. 2) i guess you're lucky i'm being a nice dick today.