Vista native support

Goldrocker · 11th June 2007, 19:15

Hi guys,

I'm gonna propose something hard to do... It would be native support of Windows Vista. I believe achieving this would be hard without rewriting the whole code, and starting again from scratch... But as i heard of the powers of vista, an even greater winamp could come out of that, fully ising the Windows Presentation, Communication and Workflow Foundation. This way implementing full skinability, great graphics, full compatability, and i believe much more...

Thank you for reading

Pupi · 16th June 2007, 16:13

I was thinking the same. Who knows, with Vista's "power", maybe WinAmp's interface will become 3D

alex_gamer · 17th June 2007, 04:37

Goldrocker: do you want the code forked (the core "pre-vista" and the fork "vista" version) or winamp becoming "vista-only" and breaking nearly every single plugin? because most of what you said requires Microsoft .Net 3, which i'm not sure if it's going to released for the older windows versions

. did i mention that both options will nearly kill the dev team (because it is so small)...

Goldrocker · 20th June 2007, 22:11

was just an idea...

Boukarou · 3rd July 2007, 18:13

May be it could be a plus to release a version that just don't crash on Vista. Let's forget the 3D gui for now

I was really surprised when I saw that 5.35 was still not running 'out-of the-box' with Vista.
I'm pretty sure that I'll find a way to make it work for me on my box, but it's bad for average users who can't run it on their new machines. Most users will turn to others media players before they'll even think to check on a forum how they could solve something by themselves.

CraigF · 4th July 2007, 09:10

At least one of the winamp developers uses vista on his machine. I'm fairly sure any serious issues would have been noticed.

DrO · 4th July 2007, 12:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Boukarou
May be it could be a plus to release a version that just don't crash on Vista.

if there are issues then there's a wonderful place here (as long as all information requested is provided may lead to a resolution if it is a valid core issue - looks like it's more likely down to drivers, etc with vista issues so not directly a winamp thing in most cases)

-daz

Boukarou · 5th August 2007, 22:00

Quote:

Originally posted by CraigF
At least one of the winamp developers uses vista on his machine. I'm fairly sure any serious issues would have been noticed.

Well, he probably doesn't use the media library then, or he turned off some features of vista like UAC or something.
What I can tell for sure is that on a fresh install of vista, Winamp crash as soon as the library get populated...

Quote:

Originally posted by DrO looks like it's more likely down to drivers,

Doesn't seem to me that a driver would cause the media library to crash. Also i got no 'drivers' related warn nor error in any logs. To my point of view, this is a Winamp issue has it is crashing; Vista doesn't.

i really wish that the awesome guys at Winamp will soon provide us with a version that I and others vista users can run on our machine.

I'd say that even if it was a Vista related issue, don't leave your devoted fans with no other solution than itune or ms media-player, it's just cruel.

DrO, i'll check within the +52k threads on the forum as soon as I can listen to music

aleiro · 7th August 2007, 15:46

winamp works great in vista x64

TwilightInZero · 11th August 2007, 02:59

That's funny... I'm running Vista Ultimate x86, and Winamp works just fine, no hang-ups 'cept with auto-hide and always on top enabled on the docked toolbar, it goes behind the Vista sidebar when the sidebar's set to always on top.

And if you're skeptical (and I have no idea why anyone would be), here's screenshot proof, utilizing many parts of Winamp at one time.

http://eternaleon.googlepages.com/winampisfine.jpg

Rocker · 11th August 2007, 11:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Boukarou
Well, he probably doesn't use the media library then, or he turned off some features of vista like UAC or something.
What I can tell for sure is that on a fresh install of vista, Winamp crash as soon as the library get populated...

corrupt file?

winamp works fine in vista x64 ultimate and x86 ultimate for me.

20000+ tracks of various formats in my media library. (mpc, ogg, mp3, m4a, aac, flac, ape, wav)(avi, mkv, ogm +++++) works fine.

the only problems happen when you install the sonic engine(which can be unchecked in the installer) as it is 100% totally incompatible with x64 windows.

11th June 2007, 19:15	#1
Goldrocker Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5	Vista native support Hi guys, I'm gonna propose something hard to do... It would be native support of Windows Vista. I believe achieving this would be hard without rewriting the whole code, and starting again from scratch... But as i heard of the powers of vista, an even greater winamp could come out of that, fully ising the Windows Presentation, Communication and Workflow Foundation. This way implementing full skinability, great graphics, full compatability, and i believe much more... Thank you for reading

17th June 2007, 04:37	#3
alex_gamer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: the crossroads of life... Posts: 285	Goldrocker: do you want the code forked (the core "pre-vista" and the fork "vista" version) or winamp becoming "vista-only" and breaking nearly every single plugin? because most of what you said requires Microsoft .Net 3, which i'm not sure if it's going to released for the older windows versions . did i mention that both options will nearly kill the dev team (because it is so small)... the computer is never at fault for an error; a human is, though. DO NOT PM me for tech support. No matter what you're doing, use the right tool for the job!

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16th June 2007, 16:13	#2
Pupi Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1	I was thinking the same. Who knows, with Vista's "power", maybe WinAmp's interface will become 3D

20th June 2007, 22:11	#4
Goldrocker Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5	was just an idea...

3rd July 2007, 18:13	#5
Boukarou Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2	May be it could be a plus to release a version that just don't crash on Vista. Let's forget the 3D gui for now I was really surprised when I saw that 5.35 was still not running 'out-of the-box' with Vista. I'm pretty sure that I'll find a way to make it work for me on my box, but it's bad for average users who can't run it on their new machines. Most users will turn to others media players before they'll even think to check on a forum how they could solve something by themselves.

4th July 2007, 09:10	#6
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,437	At least one of the winamp developers uses vista on his machine. I'm fairly sure any serious issues would have been noticed.

7th August 2007, 15:46	#9
aleiro Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 18	winamp works great in vista x64

11th August 2007, 02:59	#10
TwilightInZero Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 15	That's funny... I'm running Vista Ultimate x86, and Winamp works just fine, no hang-ups 'cept with auto-hide and always on top enabled on the docked toolbar, it goes behind the Vista sidebar when the sidebar's set to always on top. And if you're skeptical (and I have no idea why anyone would be), here's screenshot proof, utilizing many parts of Winamp at one time. http://eternaleon.googlepages.com/winampisfine.jpg