Streaming BBC Radio from non-MP3 asx or mms: Converting to http:

WinampWolf · 15th June 2007, 02:17

The on-line multiuser 3D game system "Second Life" is able to play most stream URL's that start with "http:" that Winamp 3.0 uses as the radio station for a land region you own in the game... however, BBC World Service Radio doesn't seem possible to easily stream in Winamp 3.0 or Second Life. BBC World Service Radio used to only have RealAudio support back in 2005, but now it has Windows Media Player support as well, with either of the following stream URLs:

http: //www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/meta/tx/nb/live_infent_au_nb.asx

mms://a1149.l1305038288.c13050.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1149/13050/v0001/reflector:38288

The upper address is a "URL", while the lower one is a "URI", whatever that is.

What I would like is to know how to convert this into an address that looks something like these:

http: //cast.voxcdn.net:8000/live (Air America Radio)
http: //pjs.sytes.net:8888/ (Mark Maron/Seditionist Radio)
http: //207.200.96.229:8030 (Digitally Imported, Drum 'n' Bass)
http: //radiolib.origamix.org:5000/radiolib (Radio Libertaire)
http: //scfire-chi0l-2.stream.aol.com:80/stream/1021 (Secret Agent)
http: //aud-one.kpfa.org:8000/icy_0 (Berkeley Pacifica Radio)
http: //stream.army.mil:80/SRTV/SRL/128Kb (US Army Soldiers' Radio)
http: //stream.nute.net/kohina/stream.ogg (Old School Game/Demo Music)

...all those URL's work fine in Second Life, but the two I have for BBC World Service News Radio do not. Is there a way to convert them on the fly, or simply rewrite the URL/URI so they will play in Winamp 3.0 and Second Life?

Thanks for any help anyone can give.

-Winamp Wolf

ujay · 15th June 2007, 04:44

Can't remember if Winamp 3 has support for .ASX or MMS://, probably not if you can't connect.
Both links work fine in Winamp 5.

You can access the MMS stream by changing the protocol to HTTP and adding ?MSWMExt=.asf to the end - i.e.

http://a1149.l1305038288.c13050.g.lm...8?MSWMExt=.asf

an alternative/equivalent address is

http://213.254.200.30:80/D/1149/1305...8?MSWMExt=.asf

again, no idea if this works for Winamp 3, or if the address will remain static. It is always safest to connect via a playlist where possible.

UJ

WinampWolf · 15th June 2007, 05:31

Thank you... the second URL you created actually works in Winamp 3.0 (I prefer to use that version.) ... however, it still does not work in Second Life. Here is info about how to do streaming in Second Life.. perhaps you can help me figure out how to convert the URL to a form that Second Life can use?

https: //wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Help:Streaming_Audio
( https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Help:Streaming_Audio )

-Winamp Wolf

ujay · 15th June 2007, 05:49

This link seems to suggest you can only stream .mp2 .mp3 and .ogg, so I guess you're out of luck. AFAIK the BBC only supply those streams in MS or Real Media format.

http://secondlife.com/knowledgebase/article.php?id=083

UJ

WinampWolf · 15th June 2007, 09:15

I see. but what about SHOUTcast? Is there a way to take one of the two types of streams BBC outputs and receive it on your own computer, then convert it on-the-fly to a SHOUTcast stream that then has a URL that is based on your own computer's IP address on the Internet, which can then be streamed on Second Life?

Something like this:

BBC Server
|
|
v
Local Machine
|
|
v
Convert Stream to SHOUTcast (or MP3 or OGG) on-the-fly
|
|
v
Sent to/Received by Second Life Server
|
|
v
Stream Sent Out to Users on Second Life

CraigF · 15th June 2007, 09:55

Yes, you could do that. but you'd need upstream bandwidth and a lot of technical knowhow.

zzvelik · 5th July 2007, 15:07

Anyone know why none of the BBC world news links are working today? I primarely use the following link & have also tried others posted here:

mms://a1149.l1305038288.c13050.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1149/13050/v0001/reflector:38288

TIA

zzvelik · 5th July 2007, 20:28

It's working now. Must have been down for only a short period.

Quote:

Originally posted by zzvelik
Anyone know why none of the BBC world news links are working today? I primarely use the following link & have also tried others posted here:

mms://a1149.l1305038288.c13050.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1149/13050/v0001/reflector:38288

TIA

bingosss · 15th June 2008, 16:25

This site has all the bbc radio channels, sport, and news that can all be streamed live on a mobile/pda, as well as pc. http://www.bbcradio.mobi

boogied · 29th October 2009, 15:38

Hi,

bbcradio.mobi comes up on my Motorola Q9c browser, no problem. I select the different radio stations under Windows Media Player Streams and it errors out. Go to review the error, per on screen instructions...cannot read the error. Mmmmm...... Do not have Real Player on the Q Phone, doubt if I want it.

Any option(s) for the Q9c crowd?

Thanks....

15th June 2007, 02:17	#1
WinampWolf Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3	Streaming BBC Radio from non-MP3 asx or mms: Converting to http: The on-line multiuser 3D game system "Second Life" is able to play most stream URL's that start with "http:" that Winamp 3.0 uses as the radio station for a land region you own in the game... however, BBC World Service Radio doesn't seem possible to easily stream in Winamp 3.0 or Second Life. BBC World Service Radio used to only have RealAudio support back in 2005, but now it has Windows Media Player support as well, with either of the following stream URLs: http: //www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/meta/tx/nb/live_infent_au_nb.asx mms://a1149.l1305038288.c13050.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1149/13050/v0001/reflector:38288 The upper address is a "URL", while the lower one is a "URI", whatever that is. What I would like is to know how to convert this into an address that looks something like these: http: //cast.voxcdn.net:8000/live (Air America Radio) http: //pjs.sytes.net:8888/ (Mark Maron/Seditionist Radio) http: //207.200.96.229:8030 (Digitally Imported, Drum 'n' Bass) http: //radiolib.origamix.org:5000/radiolib (Radio Libertaire) http: //scfire-chi0l-2.stream.aol.com:80/stream/1021 (Secret Agent) http: //aud-one.kpfa.org:8000/icy_0 (Berkeley Pacifica Radio) http: //stream.army.mil:80/SRTV/SRL/128Kb (US Army Soldiers' Radio) http: //stream.nute.net/kohina/stream.ogg (Old School Game/Demo Music) ...all those URL's work fine in Second Life, but the two I have for BBC World Service News Radio do not. Is there a way to convert them on the fly, or simply rewrite the URL/URI so they will play in Winamp 3.0 and Second Life? Thanks for any help anyone can give. -Winamp Wolf

15th June 2007, 05:31	#3
WinampWolf Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3	Help Streaming BBC World Service Radio News in Second Life? Thank you... the second URL you created actually works in Winamp 3.0 (I prefer to use that version.) ... however, it still does not work in Second Life. Here is info about how to do streaming in Second Life.. perhaps you can help me figure out how to convert the URL to a form that Second Life can use? https: //wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Help:Streaming_Audio ( https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Help:Streaming_Audio ) -Winamp Wolf

15th June 2008, 16:25	#9
bingosss Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2	bbcradio.mobi This site has all the bbc radio channels, sport, and news that can all be streamed live on a mobile/pda, as well as pc. http://www.bbcradio.mobi

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15th June 2007, 04:44	#2
ujay Forum King Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 5,997	Can't remember if Winamp 3 has support for .ASX or MMS://, probably not if you can't connect. Both links work fine in Winamp 5. You can access the MMS stream by changing the protocol to HTTP and adding ?MSWMExt=.asf to the end - i.e. http://a1149.l1305038288.c13050.g.lm...8?MSWMExt=.asf an alternative/equivalent address is http://213.254.200.30:80/D/1149/1305...8?MSWMExt=.asf again, no idea if this works for Winamp 3, or if the address will remain static. It is always safest to connect via a playlist where possible. UJ

15th June 2007, 05:49	#4
ujay Forum King Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 5,997	This link seems to suggest you can only stream .mp2 .mp3 and .ogg, so I guess you're out of luck. AFAIK the BBC only supply those streams in MS or Real Media format. http://secondlife.com/knowledgebase/article.php?id=083 UJ

15th June 2007, 09:15	#5
WinampWolf Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3	I see. but what about SHOUTcast? Is there a way to take one of the two types of streams BBC outputs and receive it on your own computer, then convert it on-the-fly to a SHOUTcast stream that then has a URL that is based on your own computer's IP address on the Internet, which can then be streamed on Second Life? Something like this: BBC Server \| \| v Local Machine \| \| v Convert Stream to SHOUTcast (or MP3 or OGG) on-the-fly \| \| v Sent to/Received by Second Life Server \| \| v Stream Sent Out to Users on Second Life

15th June 2007, 09:55	#6
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,437	Yes, you could do that. but you'd need upstream bandwidth and a lot of technical knowhow.

5th July 2007, 15:07	#7
zzvelik Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2	Anyone know why none of the BBC world news links are working today? I primarely use the following link & have also tried others posted here: mms://a1149.l1305038288.c13050.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1149/13050/v0001/reflector:38288 TIA

29th October 2009, 15:38	#10
boogied Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 44	Hi, bbcradio.mobi comes up on my Motorola Q9c browser, no problem. I select the different radio stations under Windows Media Player Streams and it errors out. Go to review the error, per on screen instructions...cannot read the error. Mmmmm...... Do not have Real Player on the Q Phone, doubt if I want it. Any option(s) for the Q9c crowd? Thanks....