Selling SHOUTcast £2 or $4 NO CATCHES

[rob1601]

Bass-Hosting

I know you are thinking this may be to good to be true but i promise you this isnt!

Bass-Hosting is the latest in a chain of sites we have made.

As you may guess it is based on Hosting Services.

www.bass-hosting.info
sales@bass-hosting.info
rob1601@hotmail.co.uk

We are offering SHOUTcast for £2 a month!

here is what you get:

Latest Cast-Control
100 Listeners
64kb/s
Unmetered Bandwidth
Reliable 99.9% or better uptime
No Overselling, we sell only what we can host
Customer Support With Skype Support

And you can add hosting to this for only 50p or $1. You get...

Latest Cpanel
1GB Storage
10GB Bandwidth
Unlimited Sub-Domains
Unlimited FTP Accounts
Unlimited Mail Accounts
99.9% or better uptime!
Customer Support With Skype Support
And Much More

[Greg_E]

Technically 100 connections at 64Kbps is metered service if it was truly unmetered, then the bit rate wouldn't matter, nor would the number of connections at that rate. And for the 2 pounds or $4 per month (assuming a really popular stream with 100% connection) you will be sending 16,588,800,000,000 (unless my math has slipped) bits per account per month (30 day month). That is 2,073,600,000,000 BYTES per month. For those not willing to think that is 2+ TERABytes per month. And at that demand I would think it would almost cost $4 a month just in electricity for the server, let alone buying the hardware. Hell it would take about 100 accounts just to buy one equipment rack (if you buy a cheap rack).

Well.... Good luck with this.


(as a math check:
64,000[bits per stream]*100[connections]*60[seconds in a minute]*60[minutes in an hour]*24[hours in a day]*30[days in a month]=16,588,800,000,000 bits per month
16,588,800,000,000/8=2,073,600,000,000 or 2.0736 TB per month) and all that is without the IP overhead which brings it up to about 2.38464 TB per month with a 15% IP overhead

[Nick@ss]

is this a technical term?

Unmetered Bandwidth
Reliable 99.9% or better uptime

All due respect but if you knew how things worked around here you would know this is not allowed.

if you want to help out then put your site in your sig and join in.

FWIW if you make a profit out of what your selling then we may aswel go home as we are doing something wrong,

if you have to sell 100 servers to make 200 pounds before you take cost away then its really not worth doing,

with what greg has mentioned above without the costs for support im surprised you will make any money at all.

by my estimation at 7 am in the morning 100 slots x 64k is appx 6 Mbps

and i know for a fact you cannot buy it that cheap so you will be overselling.

Im all for new enterprise but be fair to the people you are trying to fleece.

cast control although very good software has a lot to answer for lol.

[rob1601]

Well we seem to be doing okay up to now.. making a tidy profit yes that is after server costs so please dont tell me how to run my business. Maybe you should all go home and not try to defeat your competitors. You are the people fleecing your customers by charging. We are supported by other major companies. You may not have larger connections but i do so please refrain from making remarks you can't back up. That is slander. And Gregs comment about the unmetered bandwidth is in correct because if we supported 128 then we would be selling more bandwidth than we had. Maybe you guys should think more business minded. Look around for the best servers.

[bored_womble]

so we are completely clear on the matter

You want us to trust you given

i) the domain was registered 2 days ago

ii) the server is hosted at a webhost facility that hangs, what appears to only off, cogent connectivity.

So given (i) and (ii) who else believes this wont last long ?

Happy to be proven wrong ...

reputation around here is everything, and so far, you are not doing yourself anything to help it.

BW

[Greg_E]

And let's not forget that advertising here is not allowed!

The price falls into the "seems to be to good to be true" realm.

Maybe some of the guys on itunes should make this their primary link and let their normal server supply overflow.

[dotme]

Originally posted by rob1601
Well we seem to be doing okay up to now..

Originally posted by bored_womble
..the domain was registered 2 days ago

It's been a positive 48 hours then.

The reason you're getting such negative feedback (apart from the fact that you broke rules by advertising on the forums here) is that seasoned professionals who have been webcasting for a while see outfits like yours come and go overnight.

Often, vanishing with other people's money.

Why? Well, my station consumes 110 mbps when it's pushing max during the day. The cheapest Cogent/HE bandwidth you can find from a top-tier data center is $6-$10 per megabit. Putting the cost in the region of $800-$1,100 a month for 110mbps for the cheapest pipe you can buy.

You want to sell me that bandwidth for $20?? Something's not right.

I'm guessing you're from the UK so let's see if this analogy works for you.

Oil is currently selling for 55 UK pounds a barrel. All the petrol stations in London sell for, what - One pound 7 per litre? Let's assume that the going rate is a pound per litre.

Now you find one station selling it for 5 pence a liter.

Would you put that in your car? I wouldn't...

Either the fuel is watered down (useless) or the owner's going to go bankrupt selling below his cost.

[fc*uk]

Originally posted by dotme
Now you find one station selling it for 5 pence a liter.

Would you put that in your car? I wouldn't...

Either the fuel is watered down (useless) or the owner's going to go bankrupt selling below his cost.

Wait a second!!!!!

I'd buy it ... you just gotta see!!!! But actually put that in something I depended on (such as a car): no way in hell.

Actually, I'm a chemist. I'd test it myself and go from there.

Actually, this post serves no point.

Lets back up and fix it.

Would you buy a $2 car and expect it to actually run ... any $2 service for that matter.

[Greg_E]

Originally posted by dotme

The reason you're getting such negative feedback (apart from the fact that you broke rules by advertising on the forums here) is that seasoned professionals who have been webcasting for a while see outfits like yours come and go overnight.

Often, vanishing with other people's money.

I would change Often to Normally, and that is usually the plan.

Happened to us early on. We made a sweet deal for a year's worth of streaming (only about $750), with a "company" that had been going for a couple of years. Suddenly about 2 months later the connection no longer works, and all the people are gone. In this case I think they were selling bandwidth from the college that they were working with (students at), and when the administration found out, the thesis project was suddenly done, money gone, and no way to get a hold of anyone. I always thought it was fishy at the time when all of the people involved were Grad students, but that wasn't my call.

Thankfully now we host off of our own pipe and I don't need to worry about things like that. The only thing that I need to deal with is whether our administration wants to keep it going or not. If they pull the plug there is not much I can do.

[Wavestreaming]

What good value - £0.15 per mbit! I'll have 50 of them please!

Can I just point out 3 things along with the comments already made;

1. Your contact page gives me a 404 error. If I was a customer, i'd be shitting myself.

2. There is no whois information on your domain, its privacy protected. I'd be REALLY shitting myself.

3. Your company 'Bass-Hosting UK Ltd' doesn't actually exist (its not registered with companies house here in the UK according to their webcheck service). This is false representation and is illegal.

[Greg_E]

Well really the hotmail account should have hopefully tipped most people off.

www.bass-hosting.info
sales@bass-hosting.info
rob1601@hotmail.co.uk