mic problem Vista

[j.obrien]

Hi, im sorry to ask a question which has probably been answered but i have searched the forums over and over and nothing seems to fix my problem. And i'm starting to think im jinxed.

I want to use my new notebook for a home karaoke system just for fun.

I used to be able to do it on my old notebook which was a toshiba about 6 years old running xp however i can not get it to work on my new :

Hp Pavillion dv9500
running Vista Home Premium
running winamp 5.52

I want to plug my speakers into headphone jack and mic into mic jack on front of notebook and sing along to the music. However i get no sound from mic.

The mic DOES WORK. and i can record using sound recorder but NO playback with/without music. I can use linein:// and i get movement on the visualsation beat bar but no sound comes through however this would ultimately not let me play music at same time even if i could here the mic.

Please help

[JonnyMac]

Winamp's default LineIn plug-in is for visualizations only. The sound that you would hear comes from the soundcard (not through Winamp). For the mic to be heard, click on the little speaker in the "systray" and make sure the 'Microphone' is not muted or the mic volume is not turn down too much in the Volume/Playback section of the Windows Mixer.

If there is not a Microphone column, click on Options > Properties > bullet/select Playback > and checkmark Microphone

[j.obrien]

there is no mic in the "volume mixer" in the system tray.

I can not click on Options > Properties > bullet/select Playback > and checkmark Microphone as there is no options tab/button in the volume mixer in the system tray in vista.

or do you mean click on options somwhere else????

[JonnyMac]

I have WinXP therefore I am not very familiar with Vista. However after a Google search, the following might be the equivalent...

1. Control Panel > click Hardware and Sound > click Sound.
2. click Playback tab > click Speakers > click Properties.
3. click Levels tab

Is there anyone with Vista who can verify the above steps or point j.obrien in the right direction?

[j.obrien]

levels are at 100% for both speakers and mic. Audio devices are enabled????

[j.obrien]

do i need to change any settings in winamp??? or would that be set correctly. My feeling is it is something in vista but not sure. Thanks again

[JonnyMac]

It is not a setting in Winamp. Winamp's LineIn does not playback the microphone or linein through Winamp's "sound system". It is just for Winamp's visualizations.

The sound you should hear with the microphone come from the soundcard, regardless if you are using Winamp or not.

[j.obrien]

ok so it is deffinitly a setting in vista. does anyone know what setting i need to change?

thanks in advance again

[j.obrien]

does anyone know what settings need to be changed in vista to fix my problem????

[j.obrien]

surely someone from winamp hq has run on vista and come accross this

[j.obrien]

can anyonde give me ideas of what to check?

[j.obrien]

I dont wish to be rude but HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[j.obrien]

I will PAY for an answer that fixes my problem.

I am deadly serious the only reason I bought a new computer was to run winamp and use the mic. So i just spent $1500.00 for nothing.

If you can supply an answer that fixes my problem. I WILL send payment to YOUR Bank account / Paypal whatever.

I just want an answer that works.

I can check and supply more details just ask and I will find out whatever you need.

Again I appologise if this is considered being rude.

Is it such a big thing to ask the "technical Forum" a Technical answer and expect an answer that fixes your problem?

[JonnyMac]

We are end users who volunteer our time to provide support. Not everyone here has Vista and those that have Vista may not be experiencing the issue you are having.

This is more of a system or general tech support issue than a Winamp issue. You should be able to hear the microphone regardless of Winamp. A couple good forums for general tech support are Suggest A Fix and Tech Support Guy. Although they are not affiliated with or endorsed by Nullsoft/Winamp, they have been commonly suggested here at Winamp Forums.

Good Luck.

[elasmo]

I have the same issue i have HP Pavilion "Entertainment" laptop pc vista ultimate,and following extensive google searches i have been unable to fiond a solution to mic issue as mentioned here.
I have searched for a way to EnableInputMonitor however no avail.
I really hope someone finds a fix for this issue as this pc sure isnt Entertaining

[j.obrien]

elasmo, i have also checked all vista forums and even chatted with hp support and they suggest i take it to a repair centre.

However i think it is vista itself!!! But microsoft won't answer my questions.

Everyone assumes it works with vista even hp said "i think it should" but i havent found a single person with vista that can say "yes it does".

I have come accross many mentions of people having this same problem in vista using all types of music programs and on all types of notebooks.

However no one will own up and create a fix for it.

Keep an eye on this forum cause if i find an answer i will post it here.

if anyone else finds one please post it here and help those that are starting to loose thier minds after spending weeks searching the net. I know ive spent over 100hrs on this problem alone to no avail.

[Agrippa]

Ah God! I have the exact same problem with my Vista HP Pavilion! It is impossible to get the mic out of the speakers! And I aswell wanted a laptop so I could use Karaoke program and music programs with it. This is so sick! Please J.Obrien, have you solved our problem yet? I have been browsing for hours but no one seem to know a solution...

[j.obrien]

Hi again people I am back after first posting this. I have not found an answer to my problem however I have found ways to get around it. Please read the following.



I have not found a simple solution to this problem even after arguing with both HP and Microsoft for countless hours. I even called them on the phone, now that was an expensive exercise trust me.

After all that though to me it seems that it is not a hardware problem but a security software problem in vista. However microsoft tells me that it is not a problem and the mic should work just fine. And to go to check the following on my computer.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...209261033.mspx

However I do not have mute buttons when I go into the audio controll pannel. Which neither HP or Microsoft can explain. If someone else knows why I dont have these mute butttons I would greatly appretiate knowing why. Getting back to the problem.

There are only two ways that I know you can get around it. Not fix it but get around it...

The first is to remove vista and install XP if you do this you will be able to hear the mic through the speakers like I used to be able to do on my old laptop.

However I did not want to remove my new operating system so I had to go option two. Which is to buy a cheep mixer from ebay or somewhere like that.

This is what I have done however its a bugger because it means having more gear to cart around. It would be much simpler to just use the laptop with XP.

However by having a mixer it gives you more options of what your able to do with the mic and speakers and you also get better quality volume and sound through both.

I hope this helps some people because I have been climbing the walls trying to work it out.

Thanks all

Jason O

[JonnyMac]

There have a number of different threads regarding this issue. Here is a quote pulled from one of my earlier replies…

Originally posted by JonnyMac
Winamp does not control or "listen to" the microphone. Anyways, no audio from the mic seems be one on Vista's annoying quirks. See if the following will help...

http://www.miguelcarrasco.net/migue..._microphon.html
http://forums.techguy.org/windows-v...hone-muted.html
http://forums.techguy.org/windows-v...mic-doesnt.html

Hopefully something from that will be useful. If there any Vista users out there who have other suggestions, please feel free to share them.

With Vista's many annoying and odd quirks, it is my humble opinion that 'Vista' is a abbreviation for Vast instability

[Paul_Bags]

In winxp I can open sndvol32.exe, go to options > properties and select the microphone as a playback device. In fact this worked back in win98 as well. I've heard of crazier things working: you could try getting a copy of sndvol32.exe (or an older version, if that's what it's named in vista) and seeing if you can get it to play ball.

Ah win98, it would let you run a script that would continually open itself causing exponential use of system resources until you had to pull the power cord out of the wall, but you could set the microphone as a playback device and so many other things you could do that just worked (well, until it didn't). Now it's security this, DRM that, activate this, signed with blood in triplicate that...

[new_girl]

Dont know if this will help or not but it is how I got my mic to work..right click on speaker icon in tray, choose recording devices, should see box with microphone, line in, digitalln, stereo mix, pop up (at least mine does). right click on microphone, click on show disable properties and click on disconnected devices - these should have check marks in front of them, click on set this as default device. right click microphone again, click on properties, then levels - set levels for microphone & boost, click on enhancements - check dc offset cancellation - uncheck all other boxes if checked, click on advanced - the default format should be selected, if not, select, under exclusive mode check both boxes. hit apply, okay and close.

hope this helps.

[Agrippa]

J.obrien, I finally solved it for my HP Pavilion dv7! (If you have the IDT soundboard it will probably work for you too) If not, I can perhaps help you anyway. But I guess you do have it.

First I start with a rant so you can skip this if you want to go straight to the problem solving part. I can not believe it myself. I have literally been trying to solve this for a week. Perhaps 50 hours (or more) of pure trouble shooting, not much sleep, and reading a lot online but with no one being able to find a solution for HP Vista with IDT Soundboards. But now I am the God of Enabling Input Monitor on Vista, solely by myself, since HP or Microsoft where of no help whatsoever. However, I got clues about registry editing reading how to solve it on Realtek soundcards.

I called HP Sweden support, they did not understand why I wanted annoying feedback (the audio feedback that is what the mic and speakers create). So I mailed HP USA because I figured they would be of more help. It was like speaking to a child (However kudos to HP support Sweden e-mail support because they actually tried to understand my question and gave me answers, however they had no fix for it, but they could atleast explain to me they had understood my question and give me an explanation that Input Monitor was disabled on purpose on the Vista soundcards).

I kept getting advices from HP Support USA to do a complete reinstall of my computer etc, when I tried patiently to explain that was not the issue, and that they were giving advices on totally different subjects. Reading our mail conversation again I can't stop smiling (or is it sadness?).

I guess that is the CATCH 22 of support-business of the capitalist free world, because a talented support person will get promoted and stop doing these tedious support issues, and left in support are those who just can't help people out. Since if they could they would themselves be promoted and climb the ladder, and therefore stop working with actually helping people out, and round it goes, to eternity...

END OF RANT.

HOW TO ENABLE INPUT MONITOR FOR HP VISTA SYSTEMS WITH IDT SOUNDBOARDS (atleast on my HP Pavilion Dv7 Vista64 with IDT HD Audio card):

Read this carefully, since if you do not do as I did exactly there will be problems.

::::1:::: Open regedit and search for DisableMicInFromRender. Change it from 01 to 00. Or you can browse to:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0007\Settings\filter\Speaker1\
DisableMicInFromRender hex:01 change to hex:00.

RESTART COMPUTER.

::::2:::: NOW you have to downgrade your IDT drivers to IDT ID92HD71B7 Audio Driver. Go to:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/g...reg_R1002_USEN

and download the file sp39330.exe. I do assume you have the driver called sp41398.exe installed now. Do not install yet. Firstly, completely remove your old IDT drivers (do not blame me if something goes wrong, I am merely trying to help when Microsoft, IDT and HP does not give a s___). After this I think it is best to restart computer to be on the safe side.
THEN INSTALL THE sp39330.exe! AND RESTART AGAIN!

( For you others I found a forum thread with other Generic drivers you might want to look up if you do not have HP and IDT, scroll down and you find the links:
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=33686&p=203452 )

::::3:::: Go to Sound settings, go to playback\levels and you should now find the Mic volume option there, and perhaps muted. Unmute, raise the volume to max. (And check in Recording-settings that you have the mic turned on aswell.

::::4. Now here is the tricky part. It do work in mysterious ways, and it is very strange indeed. THIS IS IMPORTANT! I first did not get it to work, but I right clicked on the system tray, the IDT setting button. Right click on it, and choose the middle option. I do not know what it is called in English, but in Swedish it is called "Öppna minipanel för musikl". I guess it would be called something like "Open mini..." What it is is a small window called IDT HD Sound, and you can adjust your sound there.

WHEN OPENING it, my Input Monitor Mic started to spark AND IT WORKED! When I close it, the microphone stops working, but when I open it, it starts again! And sometimes when I restart computer it does not start at once. Then I have to do the Special move:

----Special move (Hopefully it works without this step for you)----
READ THIS: If it does not spark to life, THERE IS ONE IMPORTANT STEP TO DO IF YOU CLICK AROUND AND IT DOES NOT START WORKING!

Go to playback-settings in the system tray/Speakers/Advanced and uncheck the button in the "Exclusive mode" called "Give program that require exclusive mode lower priority" or something like that.

Then it mysteriously starts working, if it does not, go to Recording setting aswell and do the same thing there and press OK. And remember to keep the small IDT window open. Keep in mind it is not the big settings window. Rather weird I must say!

I really do not understand why it works like this, that one have to do weird stuff to make it work. Perhaps even some steps I described can be omitted but I can not figure out which step it is. IT IS REALLY WEIRD that you have to "trigger" the mic to work by doing some strange "Exclusive mode" setting and keep the small IDT window open.
Also, sometimes it keeps klicking on and off with intervals of maybe 1 minute. Perhaps some elite computer geek can explain this too me?

However, when you get the Input Monitor to start working it works until you restart, and after a while you start get the hang of how to make it spark to life. Perhaps you do not even need this last jerking around to get it to work. I hope so, just try to open the last small IDT window and perhaps that might work without these strange poking around I have to do to get it to work (sometime).

Keep in mind to keep the mic running so you hear when it sparks to life.

VENI VIDI VICI! Just took 50 hours or so... I can answer questions here if it still does not work. Just read my steps carefully!

Ps. When I do know exactly what makes it spark to life I will post it here. I just got it to work and came here directly and posted due to my joy of success. Perhaps someone here can figure out and tell me?

[Abramthasp]

I am a DJ in Secondlife...and I got this from a fellow resident, and Linden employee....the one, the only

T O R L E Y L I N D E N

so you know this is good advice...


In Windows Vista's Control Panel, select Classic View on the left.

Open the Sound control panel and click Recording tab.

Speak into the microphone and confirm that the green bars light up.

If you don't see Stereo Mix (or "What U Hear" on some systems), right-click and check "Show Disabled Devices". This should show it.

[Abramthasp]

I have to point it out again!!


[B]If you don't see Stereo Mix (or "What U Hear" on some systems), right-click and check "Show Disabled Devices". This should show it.[B]