Alot Not Unique Listeenrs Help!

[kuthu]

dear users
i have a radio station with 200 slots but somebody is filling my slots whole time.

for example i get unique 160 listeenrs but there are 40 not unique listeenrs with same IP

i tryed everything i banned them but they are cioming back each day one time i had over 50 Not unique listeenrs!

please help me is there any way to get rid of these not unique listeners?

[Brutish Sailor]

Did you WHOIS the IP? probably a forge anyway.
I would try to ban the IP in your server admin panel anyways.
Just to check....

Type your IP:port in the browser to access the DNAS



Look at the squared box on this and click it.


Where it prompts you here, type "admin" as the name, and type the password you use to stream for the DSP as the password.



from their you will see a function to ban IP's

[Jkey]

In your log file what is the useragent ?

example :
starting stream (UID: 122148)[L: 2]{A: WinampMPEG/5.32}(P: 1)

[smoothbeats]

There are typically two causes for this anomoly. These could be streamrippers - people connecting 2 clients, one to listen and one to record. If slots are limited, you may want to look into banning these IPs.

However another very likely option is that many people behind the same firewall are tuned in. This often occurs when many people at the same university or corporation discover your station and spread the word. While it might not help your listener stats as far as unique listeners are concerned, this scenerio does in fact have multiple legitimate listeners behind the same firewall.

I would do a reverse lookup or traceroute on the duplicate IP addresses to see where they are coming from and make a decision based on that. A better solution for stopping rippers is to turn off title streaming, use a tool to insert periodic title updates during songs, or use a crossfading plugin that prevents rippers from being able to get clean recordings of songs.

[kuthu]

hey thanks alot for this information

first i tryed with ban IP i banned now over 600 IPS but still each day they are coming back 50 not unique users are really too much
i am fed up with kicking the IPS

i have a qeustion when i stop the streaming title would this problem be solved?

is there any other ways to stop this´?

[Nick@ss]

Be carefull over ~250 entries in the ban list and it can crash shoutcast

random titling can help sort this out and stopping stream titles will also work,

also putting lots of idents in your stream so they advertise your station will help.

This mght be usefull aswell.
http://shoutcast.mcproductions.eu/

[kuthu]

thaks for the tipp
i will stop the streaming title and check whetaher its working out.

and the weblink which you gave me what must i do with it? how can it help me ? explain me please

[kuthu]

hey,
i download that software rest in peace and it works well.
it kidded many of the users who put more than one time radio away automatically thank you .

BUT it cant help 24 hours.

thats why am going to try with stopping the stream title

i will inform yourll very soon wheather it helped me


thanks alot

[kuthu]

hallo,
i tryed with stoping the stream titel histroyand also stopping the stream titel..
it did not help alot

now i have only about 30 not unique listeners

is there any other way?

[Jkey]

Be Careful !

Stopping stream title updates could cause numerous long term connections from the official shoutcast ultravox metapuller.

This is caused by users tunning in with the official flash based players via the yp.

If you are experiencing multiple/non unique listeners it
could be the metapuller taking up the slots.
This is why i asked for the useragent above,as knowing that
could eliminate the metapuller as the problem you encounter.

[kuthu]

oh ok
well i now installed this peace killer and its working fine...i have now 200 unique listeenrs

i always let this software run on my pc for about 12 hours

anyway thanks everybody for the tips