Old 18th August 2011, 08:55   #1
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Virtual Audio Cable Alternative

I'm not really sure if this is the proper place for this post, but I am very frustrated and could use some help. I've been trying to use Virtual Audio Cable on Windows 7 x86_64 for the last week or so to broadcast both my mic and my speakers through SHOUTcast in a manner that I do not need to hear myself speak via StereoMix. The set up I have (listed below) generally works, but VAC is so finicky and fragile that I just can't rely on it to work on any given day.

Is there any other software out there that could replace the following set up, and allow me to simulcast my sound in and sound out through a single device?

-- The following routes my speakers and mic to Line 2 so I can record my mic, my music, Skype, etc. Without hearing myself talk --

VAC - 2 Lines
Repeaters - 3

Repeater 1 - I: Line 1 / O: Speakers
Repeater 2 - I: Line 1 / O: Line 2
Repeater 3 - I: Mic / O: Line 2

Default Playback: Line 1
Default Recording: Line 2
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Old 21st August 2011, 10:43   #2
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Bump, is anybody familiar with the issue I am trying to solve? I understand the technicality behind it, but it seems like a problem that should have been solved YEARS ago by either Microsoft or Nullsoft. Perhaps allowing the SHOUTcast DSP to broadcast from more than one device?

Anyway, are there any solutions to this besides using VAC? I suppose a hardware mixer would be the very best option, but that is not feasible for me. Are there any software alternatives to VAC, or perhaps something I am totally missing in Winamp itself?
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Old 21st August 2011, 13:19   #3
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my only solution involves specific sound card (many but not all soundblaster live/audigy/audigy 2) with a third party driver (kx project) and a kxdsp plugin I wrote

I can get good control for up to 4 audio sources and up to 4 DJ's (each with own headphone output) using just one audigy 2 (for more than one DJ, you need a little inexpensive external circuitry, i.e. a mic preamp for each DJ) plus VOIP included in the mix

even a soundblaster live handles 2 DJ's with no problem

the mixing is pretty useful, with each DJ able to control how much of himself he hears (I like to hear myself, others don't), how high the music is in his headphones, can listen to a PFL channel, can monitor what's going to the "encoder" (i.e. to air), what's going to the speakers

anyway, if this sounds like something that may help you, let me know

... but I could be wrong
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Old 21st August 2011, 15:27   #4
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That definitely sounds useful! I have an Audigy Z4 or something kicking around but I am using a VIA onboard chipset right now. If you'd liek to talk in a more direct manner, you can add me to Skype (Karai_17). c:
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Old 23rd August 2011, 10:00   #5
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Bump, no responses from jaromanda...

Anyone else know of some sore of virtual mixing software that would let me set channels to specific devices, and output them to another device? Something like this:

Channel 1: Speakers
Channel 2: Microphone
Master Out: VAC Virtual Line

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Old 23rd August 2011, 10:05   #6
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I don't skype

... but I could be wrong
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Old 23rd August 2011, 10:06   #7
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Aah, well, talking here is fine, I just figured Skype would be easier and more direct.
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Old 24th August 2011, 13:16   #8
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Or not... :\
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Old 24th August 2011, 13:25   #9
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sorry, what do you want me to say?

is you card compatible with kx project drivers? http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/

if so, when you got it all up and running, let me know, I can send you my kx plugin

... but I could be wrong
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Old 24th August 2011, 13:43   #10
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Important!!!

use version 3550 ... not 3551

3551 is broken (it is alpha after all)

don't use anything prior to 3550 - my plugin wont work

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