Nullsoft Sucks

Winsane · 11th August 2000, 00:53

Well, okay, for the most part Nullsoft kicks ass. But in the following regards, Nullsoft sucks:
-Nitrane quality
-Winamp's module decoder
-Nullsoft's refusal to fix the bugs in 2.64 before 3.0 comes out
-The infrequency of finger updates and especially forum posts by most members of the team.
-The dearth of Winamp t-shirts in the possession of adoring fans and tech support providers.

Budgie · 12th August 2000, 21:51

- I don't know why people are bitchin' because of Nitrane's quality ... *hmmm* ... Okay, that 100 Hz-decoding-bug might be present, but Nitrane sounds better than the decoders of other MP3-players ( like f*ckin' Sonique, for example

). I am used to record my MP3s to tapes to listen to while driving, and Nitrane always gave me more than average results at all ... Once, I used the mpg123-plugin, which uses a decoder engine based on the mpg123-player for Linux, and the tape sounded noticably worse than those which are encoded with Nitrane ... Okay, you might go like " ahhh, your ears are f*cked up, and your recordings are on tapes anyway ... ", but this is my personal attitude, that many other people share ( don't they ?!

) ... In my eyes, the WinAMP Nitrane-decoder is the *BEST* decoder-engine available - Of course, it is not perfect ( may I mention the 100 Hz-decoding-bug ?! ), but it is way better than other decoders ... .. .

K, so much for that ...

I actually agree with the fact that Nullsoft suxx a little in the " keep-WinAMP-frequently-updated " - department ... I think they could really have fixed the decoding-bug of Nitrane and could have released a service-update for WinAMP / Nitrane just in order to fix that bug without adding any new features ... *sigh*

I am afraid for the day to come when AOL forces Nullsoft to place their ads and crap in WinAMP - If that happens, please make WinAMP shareware again ...

... I would not hesitate to register !!!!! Oh, speaking of AOL - All their free CDs they give away are REALLY kewl frisbees

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Budgie · 12th August 2000, 21:55

Hey, I wanna have a WinAMP t-shirt

Hmmm, one question to SexyLoserKitten - You sure you are female

... And what did you do to Watadoo that you became the moderator of this forum

... .. .

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videocrew · 12th August 2000, 21:59

ya, she is female, and pretty darn hot too

Budgie · 12th August 2000, 22:07

Whew, nice - Knowledge about computers AND sexy looks ... Nice combination - Any proofs referring to the sexy looks ?!?!

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Budgie · 12th August 2000, 22:09

Hey, videocrew, where's my t-shirt

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SexyLoserKitten · 12th August 2000, 22:36

Well the last time my bf checked i was female

lol
Those who have seen my pic here on the forums, do say i'm a tad, hot...but i think otherwise...(low self esteem what can i say

)
i wanna hear bitching pople!

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"Hell hath no fury like a kitten scorned"

Budgie · 12th August 2000, 22:43

Okay, SLK, you wanna some bitchin' ?!

I WANT A WINAMP T-SHIRT, AND WHY WON'T I GET ONE ?!

By the way, why was Justin too lame to post in his ( more-or-less ) stupid YadaYada-forum ??? It pissed some people off galore ... .. . I hope he spent time on coding and working on WinAMP v3.0 ( He better !!! )

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Winsane · 13th August 2000, 01:55

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Budgie:
- I don't know why people are bitchin' because of Nitrane's quality ... *hmmm* ... Okay, that 100 Hz-decoding-bug might be present, but Nitrane sounds better than the decoders of other MP3-players ( like f*ckin' Sonique, for example ). I am used to record my MP3s to tapes to listen to while driving, and Nitrane always gave me more than average results at all ... Once, I used the mpg123-plugin, which uses a decoder engine based on the mpg123-player for Linux, and the tape sounded noticably worse than those which are encoded with Nitrane ... Okay, you might go like " ahhh, your ears are f*cked up, and your recordings are on tapes anyway ... ", but this is my personal attitude, that many other people share ( don't they ?! ) ... In my eyes, the WinAMP Nitrane-decoder is the *BEST* decoder-engine available - Of course, it is not perfect ( may I mention the 100 Hz-decoding-bug ?! ), but it is way better than other decoders ... .. .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Shut up, Budgie!

Get some Etymotics or Sennheisers and stop recording to tapes before you contradict me.
I love this forum!

[This message has been edited by Winsane (edited August 12, 2000).]

Ice · 13th August 2000, 02:02

chiques dig computer geeks

Budgie · 13th August 2000, 02:05

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Winsane:
Shut up, Budgie! Get some Etymotics or Sennheisers and stop recording to tapes before you contradict me.
I love this forum!

[This message has been edited by Winsane (edited August 12, 2000).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

First off, don't tell me to shut up, k !!!

Another thing is, that stuff I wrote about mpg123's quality is *totally* subjective, and my *OWN* opinion at all ... You might disagree with me, and that's ok. Yet nevertheless, save your breath and don't say shut up.

One more thing - It wasn't just the bad quality that the mpg123-decoder gave me when I recorded on tapes, it was and it still *is* the fact that the mpg123-decoder lacks bass, depth and transparency of my MP3s of any kind ( 160 kbits up to 320 kbits ). And yes, I tried it with and without the WinAMP equalizer, as well as with and without the EQ of my high-end Marantz amplifier (

).
Hey, decode an 320 kbit MP3 with Nitrane, and then with mpg123, and record that on tape, push it in a high-end stereo, and tell me the difference, k ?!

PS: I love this forum too

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Budgie · 13th August 2000, 02:10

By the way, I *GOT* Sennheisers

. Neat.

I seriously wonder what kind of decoding plug-in you are using, (W)insane ... C'mon, I bet you use Sonique

... Ahhhh, hypocrite !!!!!

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Denzil · 16th August 2000, 02:17

Harro,
I can't speak for Nitrane quality, (we think it's pretty decent), but as for the rest, here goes:
Winamp is being worked on by 4 people. For reasons beyond our control, we currently have no budget to hire more people or buy and distribute free shiznit to our loyal users. One of the nasty side-effects of being so undermanned and underfunded is most of us don't have a lot of time to do finger updates or fix up minor bugs in 2.64. We're all under enormous pressure to make up for the long silence with Winamp 3, and that's why the coders are so gung ho about it.

I hope this sheds some light on the subject and that everyone is patient with us just a little bit longer.

-denny, "promoter of world peace"

ElChevelle · 16th August 2000, 02:28

endless17 · 16th August 2000, 04:00

if you complain about nitrane's quality, go find winamp 2.22 (last relase with Fran's decoder) and exchange the old .dll with winamp 2.64.

sound improvement is slightly better than nitrane and cpu usage is slightly higher.

Budgie · 16th August 2000, 21:00

... and adds the wonderfully nice VBR-playlist-jumping-bug

Nitrane roxx ( (W)insane - Go use Sonique

) !!!

Hey Denzil - Thank you for your status-update

. I appreciate that.

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PhotoFx · 20th August 2000, 07:56

nice to hear from an admin once and a while, eh? this ought now to be a hot topic, and "some day Alice, ... Pow! To the Moon!"

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Lord of my domain.
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Winsane · 20th August 2000, 08:41

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Budgie:
By the way, I *GOT* Sennheisers . Neat.

I seriously wonder what kind of decoding plug-in you are using, (W)insane ... C'mon, I bet you use Sonique ... Ahhhh, hypocrite !!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Which model of Sennheisers?
How's your hearing? (Mine goes up to just over 20 kHz. Haven't figured out a way to test sensitivity yet, though.)
I've never even tried Sonique.
Now, show some respect to excessively perfectionistic moderators, damnit! [img]http://smilecwm.***********/net5/GRRRR.gif[/img]

Teufel Diener · 21st August 2000, 10:44

I'm so abusive to my headphone cords that I finaly broke down and bought a Sennheiser HDR8. God those rock... the range is amazing...

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ReDVsion · 28th August 2000, 01:16

I don't know about yall, but i'd like to see a picture of sexyloserkitten, since the general consensus seems to be that she's a hottie. What about it?

sgtfuzzbubble011 · 28th August 2000, 04:47

She's not called SexyLoserKitten for nothing.

She knows that she's hot, but I think she's a little self-concious. Hey, Slk, show us a picture of your beautiful face. Don't be shy. If it makes you feel any better (probably not), I'm self-concious, too, but all the women that my mom works with (I'm 17 and they're all older than 35) want to 'break me in'. I don't think that I look good, but they all do. hmmm.....

Please, show us a picture of yourself. Purty please.....

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PhotoFx · 28th August 2000, 06:00

yeah. That one on the winamp ads 2.0 is too small. We need High-res, damnit!

Ice · 28th August 2000, 06:40

i know that slk will hate me for this.. but heres her in one of the classic ads:
[sorry..bad pic..

no hard feelings babe]

dont hurt me. please.

[This message has been edited by SexyLoserKitten (edited August 28, 2000).]

SexyLoserKitten · 28th August 2000, 07:48

I'm not gonna hurt ya..i think i'll just take that little link right outta there...

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ReDVsion · 28th August 2000, 20:00

Somethin' Tells me i'm not gonna get to see a pic (missed the link). Oh well. The imagination is a powerful thing, though I have nothing to go by....

SexyLoserKitten · 28th August 2000, 20:02

Hehe...ok how's this...5'8", skinny, dark brown hair to shoulders, green/hazel/gold eyes (they change colors), small boobs...there ya go...that's all you'l ever "see"
btw, sarge, I am extremely self-conscious, and for good reason..
[edit-when will i learn to spell]

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[This message has been edited by SexyLoserKitten (edited August 28, 2000).]

ReDVsion · 28th August 2000, 20:56

Thanks. That'll keep me goin' for a while.

SexyLoserKitten · 28th August 2000, 21:01

Hmm. i don't like the sound of that all that much..keep ya goin? what are ya doin..trying to qualify lefty for a marathon

j/k

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ReDVsion · 28th August 2000, 21:06

I mean that'll keep my IMAGINATION goin' for a while. At least now I don't have to speculate on hair color, etc. You're right, i could've phrased that better, but I only have a 15 sec. attention span.

Winsane · 28th August 2000, 21:12

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by SexyLoserKitten:
btw, sarge, I am extremely self-conscious, and for good reason..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
What reason would that be?

SexyLoserKitten · 28th August 2000, 21:56

low self esteem..poor self image....a psychiatrist could have a field day with me

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ReDVsion · 28th August 2000, 23:44

Hey, I have low self esteem/image too, but if anyone asked for my picture I'd show it. Of course, nobody's gonna ask for my picture, but that's beside the point. (Besides, there are mostly guys on this forum i'd be willing to bet).

13th August 2000, 01:55	#9
Winsane Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: U.S. (eastern time zone) Posts: 2,598	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Budgie: - I don't know why people are bitchin' because of Nitrane's quality ... hmmm ... Okay, that 100 Hz-decoding-bug might be present, but Nitrane sounds better than the decoders of other MP3-players ( like fckin' Sonique, for example ). I am used to record my MP3s to tapes to listen to while driving, and Nitrane always gave me more than average results at all ... Once, I used the mpg123-plugin, which uses a decoder engine based on the mpg123-player for Linux, and the tape sounded noticably worse than those which are encoded with Nitrane ... Okay, you might go like " ahhh, your ears are fcked up, and your recordings are on tapes anyway ... ", but this is my personal attitude, that many other people share ( don't they ?! ) ... In my eyes, the WinAMP Nitrane-decoder is the BEST decoder-engine available - Of course, it is not perfect ( may I mention the 100 Hz-decoding-bug ?! ), but it is way better than other decoders ... .. .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Shut up, Budgie! Get some Etymotics or Sennheisers and stop recording to tapes before you contradict me. I love this forum! [This message has been edited by Winsane (edited August 12, 2000).]

13th August 2000, 02:05	#11
Budgie Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Hell frozen up Posts: 1,217	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Winsane: Shut up, Budgie! Get some Etymotics or Sennheisers and stop recording to tapes before you contradict me. I love this forum! [This message has been edited by Winsane (edited August 12, 2000).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> First off, don't tell me to shut up, k !!! Another thing is, that stuff I wrote about mpg123's quality is totally subjective, and my OWN opinion at all ... You might disagree with me, and that's ok. Yet nevertheless, save your breath and don't say shut up. One more thing - It wasn't just the bad quality that the mpg123-decoder gave me when I recorded on tapes, it was and it still is the fact that the mpg123-decoder lacks bass, depth and transparency of my MP3s of any kind ( 160 kbits up to 320 kbits ). And yes, I tried it with and without the WinAMP equalizer, as well as with and without the EQ of my high-end Marantz amplifier ( ). Hey, decode an 320 kbit MP3 with Nitrane, and then with mpg123, and record that on tape, push it in a high-end stereo, and tell me the difference, k ?! PS: I love this forum too ------------------ I'm the grass, let me grow

20th August 2000, 08:41	#18
Winsane Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: U.S. (eastern time zone) Posts: 2,598	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Budgie: By the way, I GOT Sennheisers . Neat. I seriously wonder what kind of decoding plug-in you are using, (W)insane ... C'mon, I bet you use Sonique ... Ahhhh, hypocrite !!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Which model of Sennheisers? How's your hearing? (Mine goes up to just over 20 kHz. Haven't figured out a way to test sensitivity yet, though.) I've never even tried Sonique. Now, show some respect to excessively perfectionistic moderators, damnit! [img]http://smilecwm.***********/net5/GRRRR.gif[/img]

28th August 2000, 21:12	#30
Winsane Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: U.S. (eastern time zone) Posts: 2,598	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SexyLoserKitten: btw, sarge, I am extremely self-conscious, and for good reason..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> What reason would that be?

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11th August 2000, 00:53	#1
Winsane Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: U.S. (eastern time zone) Posts: 2,598	Well, okay, for the most part Nullsoft kicks ass. But in the following regards, Nullsoft sucks: -Nitrane quality -Winamp's module decoder -Nullsoft's refusal to fix the bugs in 2.64 before 3.0 comes out -The infrequency of finger updates and especially forum posts by most members of the team. -The dearth of Winamp t-shirts in the possession of adoring fans and tech support providers.

12th August 2000, 21:51	#2
Budgie Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Hell frozen up Posts: 1,217	- I don't know why people are bitchin' because of Nitrane's quality ... hmmm ... Okay, that 100 Hz-decoding-bug might be present, but Nitrane sounds better than the decoders of other MP3-players ( like fckin' Sonique, for example ). I am used to record my MP3s to tapes to listen to while driving, and Nitrane always gave me more than average results at all ... Once, I used the mpg123-plugin, which uses a decoder engine based on the mpg123-player for Linux, and the tape sounded noticably worse than those which are encoded with Nitrane ... Okay, you might go like " ahhh, your ears are fcked up, and your recordings are on tapes anyway ... ", but this is my personal attitude, that many other people share ( don't they ?! ) ... In my eyes, the WinAMP Nitrane-decoder is the BEST decoder-engine available - Of course, it is not perfect ( may I mention the 100 Hz-decoding-bug ?! ), but it is way better than other decoders ... .. . K, so much for that ... I actually agree with the fact that Nullsoft suxx a little in the " keep-WinAMP-frequently-updated " - department ... I think they could really have fixed the decoding-bug of Nitrane and could have released a service-update for WinAMP / Nitrane just in order to fix that bug without adding any new features ... sigh I am afraid for the day to come when AOL forces Nullsoft to place their ads and crap in WinAMP - If that happens, please make WinAMP shareware again ... ... I would not hesitate to register !!!!! Oh, speaking of AOL - All their free CDs they give away are REALLY kewl frisbees ------------------ I'm the grass, let me grow

12th August 2000, 21:55	#3
Budgie Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Hell frozen up Posts: 1,217	Hey, I wanna have a WinAMP t-shirt Hmmm, one question to SexyLoserKitten - You sure you are female ... And what did you do to Watadoo that you became the moderator of this forum ... .. . ------------------ I'm the grass, let me grow

12th August 2000, 21:59	#4
videocrew Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 136	ya, she is female, and pretty darn hot too

12th August 2000, 22:07	#5
Budgie Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Hell frozen up Posts: 1,217	Whew, nice - Knowledge about computers AND sexy looks ... Nice combination - Any proofs referring to the sexy looks ?!?! ------------------ I'm the grass, let me grow

12th August 2000, 22:09	#6
Budgie Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Hell frozen up Posts: 1,217	Hey, videocrew, where's my t-shirt ------------------ I'm the grass, let me grow

12th August 2000, 22:36	#7
SexyLoserKitten Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 1,303	Well the last time my bf checked i was female lol Those who have seen my pic here on the forums, do say i'm a tad, hot...but i think otherwise...(low self esteem what can i say ) i wanna hear bitching pople! ------------------ SexyLoserKitten1@aol.com "Hell hath no fury like a kitten scorned"

12th August 2000, 22:43	#8
Budgie Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Hell frozen up Posts: 1,217	Okay, SLK, you wanna some bitchin' ?! I WANT A WINAMP T-SHIRT, AND WHY WON'T I GET ONE ?! By the way, why was Justin too lame to post in his ( more-or-less ) stupid YadaYada-forum ??? It pissed some people off galore ... .. . I hope he spent time on coding and working on WinAMP v3.0 ( He better !!! ) ------------------ I'm the grass, let me grow

13th August 2000, 02:02	#10
Ice Moderator Alumni Americas Favorite Smut Peddler Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Sun Prarie, WI Posts: 3,304	chiques dig computer geeks

13th August 2000, 02:10	#12
Budgie Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Hell frozen up Posts: 1,217	By the way, I GOT Sennheisers . Neat. I seriously wonder what kind of decoding plug-in you are using, (W)insane ... C'mon, I bet you use Sonique ... Ahhhh, hypocrite !!!!! ------------------ I'm the grass, let me grow

16th August 2000, 02:17	#13
Denzil King of Fight: Groove Alumni Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 87	Harro, I can't speak for Nitrane quality, (we think it's pretty decent), but as for the rest, here goes: Winamp is being worked on by 4 people. For reasons beyond our control, we currently have no budget to hire more people or buy and distribute free shiznit to our loyal users. One of the nasty side-effects of being so undermanned and underfunded is most of us don't have a lot of time to do finger updates or fix up minor bugs in 2.64. We're all under enormous pressure to make up for the long silence with Winamp 3, and that's why the coders are so gung ho about it. I hope this sheds some light on the subject and that everyone is patient with us just a little bit longer. -denny, "promoter of world peace"

16th August 2000, 02:28	#14
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16th August 2000, 04:00	#15
endless17 Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 96	if you complain about nitrane's quality, go find winamp 2.22 (last relase with Fran's decoder) and exchange the old .dll with winamp 2.64. sound improvement is slightly better than nitrane and cpu usage is slightly higher.

16th August 2000, 21:00	#16
Budgie Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Hell frozen up Posts: 1,217	... and adds the wonderfully nice VBR-playlist-jumping-bug Nitrane roxx ( (W)insane - Go use Sonique ) !!! Hey Denzil - Thank you for your status-update . I appreciate that. ------------------ I'm the grass, let me grow

20th August 2000, 07:56	#17
PhotoFx Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: South for the winter. Posts: 840	nice to hear from an admin once and a while, eh? this ought now to be a hot topic, and "some day Alice, ... Pow! To the Moon!" ------------------ --PhotoFx <{8^) Lord of my domain. "Visual forms are not inherent in themselves, but are granted by the act of seeing... -Trevor Goodchild"

21st August 2000, 10:44	#19
Teufel Diener Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: California Über Alles Posts: 98	I'm so abusive to my headphone cords that I finaly broke down and bought a Sennheiser HDR8. God those rock... the range is amazing... ------------------ Sonique? Fuck that shit! Winamp Blue Ribbon! malevolent_prosector@hotmail.com [IMG]http://smilecwm.***********/net3/couto.gif[/IMG]

28th August 2000, 01:16	#20
ReDVsion Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,426	I don't know about yall, but i'd like to see a picture of sexyloserkitten, since the general consensus seems to be that she's a hottie. What about it?

28th August 2000, 04:47	#21
sgtfuzzbubble011 Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 60,767	She's not called SexyLoserKitten for nothing. She knows that she's hot, but I think she's a little self-concious. Hey, Slk, show us a picture of your beautiful face. Don't be shy. If it makes you feel any better (probably not), I'm self-concious, too, but all the women that my mom works with (I'm 17 and they're all older than 35) want to 'break me in'. I don't think that I look good, but they all do. hmmm..... Please, show us a picture of yourself. Purty please..... ------------------ Give me NyQuil and no one gets hurt!

28th August 2000, 06:00	#22
PhotoFx Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: South for the winter. Posts: 840	yeah. That one on the winamp ads 2.0 is too small. We need High-res, damnit!

28th August 2000, 06:40	#23
Ice Moderator Alumni Americas Favorite Smut Peddler Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Sun Prarie, WI Posts: 3,304	i know that slk will hate me for this.. but heres her in one of the classic ads: [sorry..bad pic.. no hard feelings babe] dont hurt me. please. [This message has been edited by SexyLoserKitten (edited August 28, 2000).]

28th August 2000, 07:48	#24
SexyLoserKitten Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 1,303	I'm not gonna hurt ya..i think i'll just take that little link right outta there... ------------------ SexyLoserKitten1@aol.com "Hell hath no fury like a kitten scorned"

28th August 2000, 20:00	#25
ReDVsion Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,426	Somethin' Tells me i'm not gonna get to see a pic (missed the link). Oh well. The imagination is a powerful thing, though I have nothing to go by....

28th August 2000, 20:02	#26
SexyLoserKitten Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 1,303	Hehe...ok how's this...5'8", skinny, dark brown hair to shoulders, green/hazel/gold eyes (they change colors), small boobs...there ya go...that's all you'l ever "see" btw, sarge, I am extremely self-conscious, and for good reason.. [edit-when will i learn to spell] ------------------ SexyLoserKitten1@aol.com "Hell hath no fury like a kitten scorned" [This message has been edited by SexyLoserKitten (edited August 28, 2000).]

28th August 2000, 20:56	#27
ReDVsion Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,426	Thanks. That'll keep me goin' for a while.

28th August 2000, 21:01	#28
SexyLoserKitten Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 1,303	Hmm. i don't like the sound of that all that much..keep ya goin? what are ya doin..trying to qualify lefty for a marathon j/k ------------------ SexyLoserKitten1@aol.com "Hell hath no fury like a kitten scorned"

28th August 2000, 21:06	#29
ReDVsion Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,426	I mean that'll keep my IMAGINATION goin' for a while. At least now I don't have to speculate on hair color, etc. You're right, i could've phrased that better, but I only have a 15 sec. attention span.

28th August 2000, 21:56	#31
SexyLoserKitten Moderator Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 1,303	low self esteem..poor self image....a psychiatrist could have a field day with me ------------------ SexyLoserKitten1@aol.com "Hell hath no fury like a kitten scorned"

28th August 2000, 23:44	#32
ReDVsion Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,426	Hey, I have low self esteem/image too, but if anyone asked for my picture I'd show it. Of course, nobody's gonna ask for my picture, but that's beside the point. (Besides, there are mostly guys on this forum i'd be willing to bet).