2.666 CPU

28th October 2000, 19:16

Is it just my system, or does 2.666 use about 5% more CPU than did 2.65 (playing the same MP3)?

Seems to be going in the wrong direction. Thanks AOL. :-/

Ice · 28th October 2000, 19:39

its a different decoder... remember the one from 2.22? its the same one.

fish · 28th October 2000, 19:55

Why would they use an old decoder if they have already created a better one?

Ice · 28th October 2000, 20:44

lets have a history lesson.

way back when in 98 nullsoft was in a legal battle with a company called playsoft. they said that nitrane was their creation, not justin frankels. so for the time being, nullsoft had to use a different decoder. so they used the one by franhoffer, the people that came up with mp3.

after the entire legal thing, nullsoft 'won' and got to use that decoder again. now in 2000, they've decided the one from franhoffer is the better decoder.

Bilbo Baggins · 28th October 2000, 23:42

And that concludes todays history lesson children. run along and play.

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ReDVsion · 29th October 2000, 03:09

So... You're saying... if I wanna use nirane, i need to use the latest alpha 18?

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Tom · 29th October 2000, 04:23

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ReDVsion:
So... You're saying... if I wanna use nirane, i need to use the latest alpha 18?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No those alphas were based off of the Fraunhofer decoder (just like 2.22 was), if you want to use Nitrane for some reason then download and install this, I'm pretty sure that was the last version of Nitrane made (2.34).

Tom
I never would have thought I would be giving out links to Nitrane to replace a Fraunhofer decoder.

ReDVsion · 29th October 2000, 16:23

Sorry guys, but I think you're wrong on this one - 2.666 DOES use Nitrane:

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Posted On Winamp's Main Page:
Well, to all of your enjoyment, Winamp 2.666 has been released. Featuring the new, spiffier, Nitrane MP3 decoder. What does that mean in English? For you non-geeks, it's the part of Winamp that let's you play MP3 files. For you geeks like us, all known MP3 decoding bugs have now been completely eradicated.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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[This message has been edited by ReDVsion (edited October 29, 2000).]

Ice · 29th October 2000, 16:41

i believe they are calling the franhoffer one nitrane. thus the 'new, spiffier' in there.

ReDVsion · 29th October 2000, 17:23

You guys sure about this shit?

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iomegajaz · 29th October 2000, 18:48

Yes™

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Somebody · 30th October 2000, 00:06

Dude, even if you click on the about button for more info for in_mp3.dll it will say Franhofer.

ReDVsion · 30th October 2000, 00:24

*hits head on wall for not clicking "about" button*

So... Why do they say "Nitrane" on the web page? This is fucked...

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Winsane · 30th October 2000, 00:40

Well, it isn't purely Fraunhofer's decoder anymore, because Nullsoft optimized it (but without affecting its output). It's sorta like a combination of Fraunhofer and Nitrane.

30th October 2000, 01:02

Frantrane?
Nitehoffer?

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steve · 30th October 2000, 05:07

Sorry, I fucked up, yo.. The article said it's a nitrane plug-in but it's actually based off the Fraunhoffer decoder... I'll correct it with the next site update...

-steve

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peppert · 30th October 2000, 06:34

*reminds self to fire steve tomorrow*

Winsane · 30th October 2000, 06:45

Whoa! The admins are invading the forums!

ElChevelle · 30th October 2000, 07:02

The MODS are out of a job!!!

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ReDVsion · 30th October 2000, 18:37

And I never got to taste sweet victory...

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rm' · 30th October 2000, 23:57

Get a copy of 1984, Red

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edit: shame on me

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iomegajaz · 31st October 2000, 05:58

Don't tell me you misspelled 1984.

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1st November 2000, 05:59

The new decoder is definitely not better.. I like the older one .....

ReDVsion · 1st November 2000, 07:49

Hence my sig:

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Mulefire · 1st November 2000, 18:18

Bah and humbug, the new one is definately superiour. Why it even comes close to the latest Sonique AE. Nitrane sucked the dilly oh. At least now Winamp can use it's "Hi-Fi" headline without making me laugh. CPU usage though is a big sucky gob stopper in the sky. I really couldn't give a rats scrawy tail though, as if that 5% makes a real difference on your system switch to CoolPlayer or something. Now leave me alone.

Mule.

endless17 · 1st November 2000, 18:48

i've tested the new decoder out on winamp, it's less cpu-intensive than coolplayer.

the only thing it's slower to is the old nitrane decoder with all those bugs. i detect a jump from 5% to 8%, no big deal - that's about 1 or 2 fps in geiss :/

the sound on the new nitrane is definitely superior.

ReDVsion · 1st November 2000, 19:44

Damn... Faster than coolplayer... well, I'm still keepin' it 'cuz I've got too many cool skins for it.

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28th October 2000, 19:16	#1
TaskManager Guest Posts: n/a	Is it just my system, or does 2.666 use about 5% more CPU than did 2.65 (playing the same MP3)? Seems to be going in the wrong direction. Thanks AOL. :-/

28th October 2000, 19:39	#2
Ice Moderator Alumni Americas Favorite Smut Peddler Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Sun Prarie, WI Posts: 3,304	its a different decoder... remember the one from 2.22? its the same one.

28th October 2000, 19:55	#3
fish Pretty Cool Guy Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Cle, OH, USA Posts: 4,847	Why would they use an old decoder if they have already created a better one?

28th October 2000, 20:44	#4
Ice Moderator Alumni Americas Favorite Smut Peddler Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Sun Prarie, WI Posts: 3,304	lets have a history lesson. way back when in 98 nullsoft was in a legal battle with a company called playsoft. they said that nitrane was their creation, not justin frankels. so for the time being, nullsoft had to use a different decoder. so they used the one by franhoffer, the people that came up with mp3. after the entire legal thing, nullsoft 'won' and got to use that decoder again. now in 2000, they've decided the one from franhoffer is the better decoder.

28th October 2000, 23:42	#5
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,231	And that concludes todays history lesson children. run along and play. ------------------ One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them MP3 Resource Centre

29th October 2000, 03:09	#6
ReDVsion Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,426	So... You're saying... if I wanna use nirane, i need to use the latest alpha 18? ------------------ I PLEAD INSANITY.

29th October 2000, 04:23	#7
Tom Moderator Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 4,485	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ReDVsion: So... You're saying... if I wanna use nirane, i need to use the latest alpha 18? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> No those alphas were based off of the Fraunhofer decoder (just like 2.22 was), if you want to use Nitrane for some reason then download and install this, I'm pretty sure that was the last version of Nitrane made (2.34). Tom I never would have thought I would be giving out links to Nitrane to replace a Fraunhofer decoder.

29th October 2000, 16:23	#8
ReDVsion Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,426	Sorry guys, but I think you're wrong on this one - 2.666 DOES use Nitrane: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Posted On Winamp's Main Page: Well, to all of your enjoyment, Winamp 2.666 has been released. Featuring the new, spiffier, Nitrane MP3 decoder. What does that mean in English? For you non-geeks, it's the part of Winamp that let's you play MP3 files. For you geeks like us, all known MP3 decoding bugs have now been completely eradicated.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ------------------ I PLEAD INSANITY. [This message has been edited by ReDVsion (edited October 29, 2000).]

29th October 2000, 16:41	#9
Ice Moderator Alumni Americas Favorite Smut Peddler Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Sun Prarie, WI Posts: 3,304	i believe they are calling the franhoffer one nitrane. thus the 'new, spiffier' in there.

29th October 2000, 17:23	#10
ReDVsion Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,426	You guys sure about this shit? ------------------ I PLEAD INSANITY.

29th October 2000, 18:48	#11
iomegajaz Balled and Chained Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 4,702	Yes™ ------------------ Yes™. http://www.iomegajaz.com -\|- jaz@iomegajaz.com

30th October 2000, 00:06	#12
Somebody Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,531	Dude, even if you click on the about button for more info for in_mp3.dll it will say Franhofer.

30th October 2000, 00:24	#13
ReDVsion Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,426	hits head on wall for not clicking "about" button So... Why do they say "Nitrane" on the web page? This is fucked... ------------------ I PLEAD INSANITY.

30th October 2000, 00:40	#14
Winsane Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: U.S. (eastern time zone) Posts: 2,598	Well, it isn't purely Fraunhofer's decoder anymore, because Nullsoft optimized it (but without affecting its output). It's sorta like a combination of Fraunhofer and Nitrane.

30th October 2000, 01:02	#15
WolfieD Guest Posts: n/a	Frantrane? Nitehoffer? ------------------ WolfieD - Taking a bite out of crime since 1985 www.WolfieD.com - Go there or I'll unleash my sarcastic sarcasm on your ass.

30th October 2000, 05:07	#16
steve Intolerant Ex-Administrator Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: San Francisco, CA, USA Posts: 483	Sorry, I fucked up, yo.. The article said it's a nitrane plug-in but it's actually based off the Fraunhoffer decoder... I'll correct it with the next site update... -steve ------------------ Steve Gedikian - steve@nullsoft.com Senior Graphics Designer - Nullsoft, Inc. Nullsoft - http://www.nullsoft.com Winamp - http://www.winamp.com SHOUTcast - http://www.SHOUTcast.com

30th October 2000, 06:34	#17
peppert UID 0 Join Date: May 2000 Location: a tent outside forums.winamp.com Posts: 230	reminds self to fire steve tomorrow

30th October 2000, 06:45	#18
Winsane Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: U.S. (eastern time zone) Posts: 2,598	Whoa! The admins are invading the forums!

30th October 2000, 07:02	#19
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,431	The MODS are out of a job!!! ------------------ I don't know Karate...... but I do know Karazy!!!

30th October 2000, 18:37	#20
ReDVsion Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,426	And I never got to taste sweet victory... ------------------ I PLEAD INSANITY.

30th October 2000, 23:57	#21
rm' Banned Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 11,361	Get a copy of 1984, Red ------------------ Because you can't spell *Radioactive* without *Rad* edit: shame on me [This message has been edited by Radioactive Man (edited October 30, 2000).]

31st October 2000, 05:58	#22
iomegajaz Balled and Chained Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 4,702	Don't tell me you misspelled 1984. ------------------ Yes™. http://www.iomegajaz.com -\|- jaz@iomegajaz.com

1st November 2000, 05:59	#23
Flancer Guest Posts: n/a	The new decoder is definitely not better.. I like the older one .....

1st November 2000, 07:49	#24
ReDVsion Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,426	Hence my sig: ------------------ I love the sound of Nitrane in the morning.

1st November 2000, 18:18	#25
Mulefire Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Portland, Maine, USA Posts: 256	Bah and humbug, the new one is definately superiour. Why it even comes close to the latest Sonique AE. Nitrane sucked the dilly oh. At least now Winamp can use it's "Hi-Fi" headline without making me laugh. CPU usage though is a big sucky gob stopper in the sky. I really couldn't give a rats scrawy tail though, as if that 5% makes a real difference on your system switch to CoolPlayer or something. Now leave me alone. Mule.

1st November 2000, 18:48	#26
endless17 Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 96	i've tested the new decoder out on winamp, it's less cpu-intensive than coolplayer. the only thing it's slower to is the old nitrane decoder with all those bugs. i detect a jump from 5% to 8%, no big deal - that's about 1 or 2 fps in geiss :/ the sound on the new nitrane is definitely superior.

1st November 2000, 19:44	#27
ReDVsion Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,426	Damn... Faster than coolplayer... well, I'm still keepin' it 'cuz I've got too many cool skins for it. ------------------ I love the sound of Nitrane in the morning.