losers on napster

s1138 · 15th January 2001, 14:59

i hate people who have a fast modem, download a couple thousand songs, and then dont share them with anyone!
and when they do share songs, they make it so you CANT download the songs! what is there fucking problem. napster is used for SHARING music not for downloading from others and then being a greedy little fucker and not letting people download from you!

fish · 15th January 2001, 15:01

Quote:

Originally posted by s1138
i hate people who have a fast modem, download a couple thousand songs, and then dont share them with anyone!
and when they do share songs, they make it so you CANT download the songs! what is there fucking problem. napster is used for SHARING music not for downloading from others and then being a greedy little fucker and not letting people download from you!

amen!!

my uncle has 5000 songs but no one can download them because of his firewall

Matt · 15th January 2001, 16:52

I've got about 500 mp3's on the hard disk at the moment. I don't share. I did once for a bit. My connection is just too slow.
I can't have people getting my songs, I need all the bandwidth for myself

Not that I use Napster that much.

Bilbo Baggins · 15th January 2001, 21:10

I let people share my music, even though I am on a 56k. I am soooo generous, I just have to spread my love....

Xerxes · 15th January 2001, 21:20

Since i'm on 56k and i believe in sharing... What I do is see what song they are getting. If its a rare or hard to find recording, i let them have it. If it's something every other person has, i delete them as soon as possible... I think that's fair right?

MamiyaOtaru · 16th January 2001, 00:21

sounds fair..
I use the WinMX client, which allows you to set max number of uploads TOTAL, not just per user. That way people have a chance of getting stuff, but not 20 people at once. Prolly still makes people think I'm an asshole tho

s1138 · 16th January 2001, 00:37

im talking about a guy on a T1 who has roughly 1000 songs. he is sharing all of them, just not letting anyone download.

womanfiend · 23rd January 2001, 00:52

Yeah sounds smart to share the rare and keep those everyone has. Another thing I love is the mistagging of files. Assholes tag something for what it isn't so you download the wrong song. What else to bitch about Napster? Why not get a program that will limit your bandwidth that Napster eats up? Works for me on my punny 56k.

56k blows...
DSL this summer

nateJC · 23rd January 2001, 19:38

Do you know why we high-bandwidth folk don't share our music? This is why:

I get on Napster to go download a few songs. I leave for a few minutes, come back, and 8 people are downloading from me, all with 56k modems! This thereby drags my downloads into slow-motion,so everybody had to get their downloads cancelled.

A lesson to you bandwidth-challenged people: Downloading from someone faster than you does not mean you will get it faster, it just slows us down! Your download speed is fixed and it cannot go higher than 53Kbps! Just a little friendly reminder.

ElChevelle · 23rd January 2001, 21:20

And your point is?

s1138 · 23rd January 2001, 21:51

AHHH!!!!! i kill him!

us fast people get slowed down by you slow people, so slow people should download from slow people.
like middle class with middle class, and upper class with upper class

fish · 23rd January 2001, 21:58

Quote:

Originally posted by s1138
im talking about a guy on a T1 who has roughly 1000 songs. he is sharing all of them, just not letting anyone download.

What's his Napster name so I can _not_ download from him?

MamiyaOtaru · 23rd January 2001, 23:03

When I am at home, and therefore on a modem, it is still faster to DL from Cable/T1 types. Yes, my bandwidth is limited, I know. BUT: If I get from someone else on a modem, it's the same speed as from you, IF no one else is DLing from him, and IF he is getting nothing from someone else at the same time. Using a modem to DL from a cable eats up a fraction of the cable's width, not really slowing him down at all (unless there are loads of people doing it of course) Using a modem to DL from a modem will slow him down significantly and you will also not get it as fast. As stated before, this is why, when I am at school and on a T1, I use a proggy that limits the total number of people DLing from me. -my 3 cents

Charmander · 24th January 2001, 00:12

Quote:

Originally posted by nateJC
Do you know why we high-bandwidth folk don't share our music? This is why:

I get on Napster to go download a few songs. I leave for a few minutes, come back, and 8 people are downloading from me, all with 56k modems! This thereby drags my downloads into slow-motion,so everybody had to get their downloads cancelled.

A lesson to you bandwidth-challenged people: Downloading from someone faster than you does not mean you will get it faster, it just slows us down! Your download speed is fixed and it cannot go higher than 53Kbps! Just a little friendly reminder.

Ive noticed with big time servers that it takes a lifetime to load r u cable or t1 someone once sucked my 33.6 dry making me lose a download and ive noticed the high bandwith of t1/3 only is one way it can get the songs to at warp speed but to download from it takes all day someone uploaded from my 33.6 in 5 seconds for a 128k approx 4min and it takes (one at a time) sometimes all night for one song. servers are greedy (MP3.com) selling mp3 off individual's cd's. I get sometimes near the end of a song a few hours into it and whopee a transfer error (disconnection/bad bandwidth) or sometimes blips too big for winamp to correct.)

nateJC · 24th January 2001, 00:17

To MamiyaOtaru:

Ah, I see. Actually, I've been thinking about it and this whole download problem is an endless cycle. Cable users flock to download from T3 users and piss them off, 56k users flock to Cable users and piss them off, and maybe 28.8 users flock to 56k and piss them off?. Anyway, here's what I'm trying to say:

1) I understand. I'll be nicer to 56k people on Napster.
2) Will you e-mail me that proggy you have?

drake · 24th January 2001, 01:44

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

THATS a definition of MMMEEE!!!

I have 1000+ Mp3s on my computer that are the most rare to find and also the most popular music around but I don't share at all hehehe. I have a 1.5/1.5 DSL which is the speed of a T1 basically but I could care less if people want my music since they have the chance I just post myself as a 14k

ElChevelle · 24th January 2001, 01:56

Well, that just makes you a selfish piece of shit, doesn't it?

drake · 24th January 2001, 02:19

well yes in a way but I do host a radio station with all my music during times when I am off my computer. That isn't selfish. The reason I don't let people download is too many people have 56 k modems or worse and I don't have the freetime for people to download of me taking an hour a song.

MamiyaOtaru · 24th January 2001, 05:00

The program I use is WinMX, available for free at WinMX.com it is a Napster client. I believe Audiognome is capable of the same thing. Check it out, the site lists the features, which are pretty kick A.

Oh yeah.. and the other reason for DLing from a cable/T* from your modem, they are full time connections, while other modems are apt to cut out cause someone needs to use the phone.. I know what you mean about attracting slowpokes though

Drake: you don't have the freetime? Whaaa? It's not like you have to sit there and drool, staring at the progress bar while they download

you could just let it run and do your own thing elsewhere Of course, it's your puter.. you can be selfish if you like

ElChevelle · 24th January 2001, 14:07

I get cable, finally, next week at which time my PC stays on 24/7 with napster open for all to choose. Selfishness and ignorance isn't my style. Most of the music you've aquired has been from 56k, hasn't it? And don't lie, I know better.

s1138 · 24th January 2001, 19:35

bad person username is dlperki (i am also adding drake_2 to my deathlist)
that is just greedy and evil, so evil i cant even think of words to describe you. sure 56k is slow, and they take up our bandwith, but think of them! i mean if they are downloading at .05 k/s then go ahead and disconnect them.
but you have A FUCKING CABLE/T1 etc... YOUR CONNECTED ALL THE TIME! you dont have to get offline to use the phone. and i am sure that they arent taking that much bandwith
"gee this 56k person is making me download at 50k/s instead of 100k/s, im going to disconnect him"
oh big fucking deal, 50k/s is still pretty fast on napster.

drake · 24th January 2001, 21:23

No I never aquire from a 56k. I only allow results from Cable or Higher.

Why would someone want music from a 56k or below when they have Cable or Above. That would defeat the purpose of a Cable or DSL if they had to still DL at 3 kbps.

Somebody · 24th January 2001, 22:56

I always share.

But whenever I am done getting the songs I want, I close everything no matter who is downloading from me.

ElChevelle · 25th January 2001, 04:10

Quote:

Originally posted by drake_2
Why would someone want music from a 56k or below when they have Cable or Above. That would defeat the purpose of a Cable or DSL if they had to still DL at 3 kbps.

Why not? With cable or better you could upload from several 56k's at once. Defeat the purpose? Bullshit. You'd be allowed to do several other things while downloading. No hurry here, but I guess some people have no computer of their own so they are limited in time.

drake · 25th January 2001, 04:47

Well here was what I was getting at. I could DL of 5 Cables at once each at 10 kbps or I could DL off 5 56k modems at 3 kbps. Which is more appealing? If I can finish DL's quicker from Cables whats the purpose of 56ks? They just take longer to get using them. No matter what number Cables and DSL's or above will always be faster than 56ks except when it you DL so much that it becomes a speed problem for you as in if you were DLing 60 from a Cable or 60 from a 56k it wouldn't matter but I never DL that many at once. Anyone understand what I am getting at?

Jericho · 25th January 2001, 06:25

My dad just uninstalled Napster tonight because he is a crazy man who eats too much peanut butter and it goes straight to his brain. The rrrrrrrrrrr key is jamming again, this was first mentioned in the Winamp 3 post about crackers (but disguised as Winamp 3 thread to trick people into reading it). So I don't have to worry much about people on Napster being an ass anymore.

TechHead9 · 25th January 2001, 07:08

I have DSL.. my average download speed is 150kps .. pretty fast.. when I download people with a T1/T3 connection it's as if am downloading from a 56k modem because, here's the kicker, they themselves have 50 000 downloads going. I personally let anyone share my music because I think it should be heard.. even people with 56k modems. My download speed is so fast I like to consider myself as invisible. I'm like my own little server. I have several people with 56k modems download stuff from me.. and I don't mind the wait at all.. because when I turn on Napster I'm usually on for a couple of hours anyway. So what's the big deal? Download songs one at a time. Your average speed increases (if it takes you half an hour to download one song but then you download two thinking it will take you an hour, think again. If you download two songs at once it takes 45 minutes for each song to download). Oh well.. just me I guess. I also noticed that most people here listen to punk and whatnot. I listen mostly to stuff like Delerium and Enigma. My faves :O) My napster nick is TechHead9 (of course). See you online

Jericho · 25th January 2001, 07:30

Sweet taste in music, but as mentioned above, I cannot see you online due to an acute lack of Napster.

dmagoo · 25th January 2001, 14:49

If I have Napster running, usually I let anyone download if I am not at my computer.
If they are downloading from a 56k, I let things slide. But sometimes I notice that they want to download something that is going to take 20 minutes, and I want to shut down Napster. In this case, I normally tell them before I disconnect them, and often, give them a link to the song that they can get off of my web server.

When I download, I make a point not to download more than 2 songs from the same user at the same time.
When a person with a fast connection downloads from me, and I am feeling ambitious, I will see if they are sharing, and if I can download from them. If not, I send them a message that they should be sharing and sometimes cancel them. I especially do this if they are downloading more than one track at a time from me. They should share!
What I hate also, is when people lie about their speed hoping that no one will download from them. That is just lame. I usually don't care, but sometimes I am feeling saucy, and cancel them.

ElChevelle · 25th January 2001, 16:46

Quote:

Originally posted by drake_2
Anyone understand what I am getting at?

I got what you were getting at a couple days ago. 56k accessors should be banned from Napster and aren't worthy of your music.
This thread title fits you to a tee.

s1138 · 25th January 2001, 19:29

hell i get on just to LET people download from me. someone was downloading a song i had, i checked that users database, and he had the one song i had searched forever to get.

see sharing can be good

Rx · 27th January 2001, 04:31

I share when I'm at school (8hrs a day, 5 days a week)
I don't share when I'm online, browsing the web or talking to friends. (Unless I end up leaving the house)

distortion · 27th January 2001, 04:41

Okay I've been waiting for someone to raise this topic for a long time. I have about a 1500 song collection myself. On the rare occasion I use napster I share just the folder with the recent stuff (cuz it takes 100 years to get connected with that much stuff

) Inevitably, you attract about a dozen little dialupers who all want a song. Thats fine. I get the song I'm looking for and let them finish but hit close so it lets them finish and doesn't let anyone else start. What pisses the hell out of me is the kiddies who send you messages bitching that you only let them get one song and they wanted the whole album. Thats just too bad my friend. I only needed to be on napster for 5 minutes. I dont have time to let you download each song at 25 minutes per song. The moral of the story is, I'll be nice, you be nice, but dont get crazy or I'll cut you off at 95% so you wasted all that time for an incomplete song

Some people forget that its a "community"

btw, s1138, congrats on 666 posts

ef280z · 27th January 2001, 14:07

My university is blocking Napster soon, and there are actually students planning on transferring to a school where Napster isn't blocked. Anyone else see a problem with this?

Huehuetenango · 28th January 2001, 03:21

yeah, this thread is very true
earlier today i was thinking about napster, and i reallized: i download tons from ppl, but i'm always cancelling uploads. if everyone thought like i did, no one would be able to get anything and napster would be useless
even before my realization i would just cancel hourlong uploads or ones for my younger bros bad music (my opinion) but now, i jsut leave it, i hope others will do the same thing

how about the ppl who just cancel uploads at 95% for fun?
no explanation, no apology NADA

goblin · 28th January 2001, 05:40

There's something that really pisses me off about some Napster users, and that's that they somehow feel it's their right to download entire albums for free from other people who've paid for them. I like artist, I buy artist's album, good for me cos I get album, good for artist cos artist gets money. Someone else likes artist, they d/l album, artists gets nothing, I get nothing except annoyance that I had to pay for it and that person doesn't. Personally I think it would be great if it was possible to prevent somebody downloading more than say 3 songs by a particular artist. (Unfortunately that's not possible technically.)

But for people like me who download songs to see if an artist is any good, or to get rare stuff that you can't buy, why should we suffer at the hands of whingers who happen to have a cable or fibre connection, and use that connection to download dozens of mp3s but complain when a 56k user downloads from them? If I download from a cable user, I know they're not going to get disconnected, and I know that if I leave my computer alone it's going to download at 50k+. If I download from a 56k user I have to hope that they don't get cut off from a phone line glitch, and I don't have to worry about my dowload speed decreasing every time they click on a web page link! It makes a hell of a lot of sense to download from somebody faster than you, until you get up to T1 sorts of speeds where you can download almost as fast as you can find songs.

As far as the sharing thing goes... well, I'm fine to share my songs, but only if I'm not using my connection for anything else. I mus quite a bit, and if anybody wanted to download from me then, I'd cut them off. And tell them why, mind you. But the question has never arisen, because for some reason, even though I have no firewall or anything, people can't download songs from me, no matter what I do to Napster or my computer.

s1138 · 28th January 2001, 12:32

i agree,
but sometimes people can t download from me.
they get a message that said transfer error at 99%
but on my side it says file complete

this suck because everyone thinks im evil,
but i not. i left my computer running ALL night so some guy in asia could download the entire star wars trilogy.

Risc_Terilia · 28th January 2001, 18:35

Man, i can hear the violins.

If its an artist in the charts, its not like they're going to miss £200 from 100 album sales is it.

If its *not* an artist in the charts, its a new band of a progressvie, non mainstreem thing, they will get some exposure out of it.

Where's the problem?

P.S

In my opinion, you sould only have to pay for production costs for CDs, 12"s and tapes, and copyrights should be a thing of the past.

goblin · 28th January 2001, 19:03

Risc_Terilia,

Who, exactly, do you think is going to spend more of their time than your average full-time job takes up, writing and playing that music that you listen to? If the artists and bands don't get paid a penny for their work while you enjoy the music, who do you think is going to make music if it means they have to live with no meny whatsoever?

If an artists's in the charts, they often DO miss that £200, because as you may or may not know artists actually get paid crap considering the price of CDs, most of it goes to their managers and record labels. A few record sales can actually make a difference to charting artists and bands, many famous artists get around or less than the average wage because of the evil iron-bound contracts their label forces them into.

And, speaking from somebody who knows a few, if an artist isn't in the charts (which does NOT mean they're new and progressive), they notice every single record sale. Unsigned bands typically charge £4-5 per album, and they have almost zero production costs, but if you buy their record they will be personally grateful to you for it, since they sell so few.

All you want is to listen to good music and not have to pay a thing, and you don't care who you shit on to do it. People like you make me sick.

29th January 2001, 01:25

i hate the people who don't share. I have a cable connection and 550 mp3's - i share them.

(hey my cable connection is from AOL Time Warner's Roadrunner, the same company Nullsoft is owned by, what a coincidence)

15th January 2001, 21:20	#5
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,687	Since i'm on 56k and i believe in sharing... What I do is see what song they are getting. If its a rare or hard to find recording, i let them have it. If it's something every other person has, i delete them as soon as possible... I think that's fair right? Now is the time for all good Americans to come to the aid of their Country

23rd January 2001, 00:52	#8
womanfiend Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 11	rare and bandwidth Yeah sounds smart to share the rare and keep those everyone has. Another thing I love is the mistagging of files. Assholes tag something for what it isn't so you download the wrong song. What else to bitch about Napster? Why not get a program that will limit your bandwidth that Napster eats up? Works for me on my punny 56k. 56k blows... DSL this summer

23rd January 2001, 19:38	#9
nateJC Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: an interstella burst i'm back to save the universe Posts: 953	Do you know why we high-bandwidth folk don't share our music? This is why: I get on Napster to go download a few songs. I leave for a few minutes, come back, and 8 people are downloading from me, all with 56k modems! This thereby drags my downloads into slow-motion,so everybody had to get their downloads cancelled. A lesson to you bandwidth-challenged people: Downloading from someone faster than you does not mean you will get it faster, it just slows us down! Your download speed is fixed and it cannot go higher than 53Kbps! Just a little friendly reminder. This is your brain. This is your brain on pot. This is your brain desperately searching for Doritos. natejc@myrealbox.com \|\| Prosthetic Head \|\| Go ahead, press it, you know you want to!

23rd January 2001, 23:03	#13
MamiyaOtaru Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Ciudad Warez Posts: 278	nateJC: When I am at home, and therefore on a modem, it is still faster to DL from Cable/T1 types. Yes, my bandwidth is limited, I know. BUT: If I get from someone else on a modem, it's the same speed as from you, IF no one else is DLing from him, and IF he is getting nothing from someone else at the same time. Using a modem to DL from a cable eats up a fraction of the cable's width, not really slowing him down at all (unless there are loads of people doing it of course) Using a modem to DL from a modem will slow him down significantly and you will also not get it as fast. As stated before, this is why, when I am at school and on a T1, I use a proggy that limits the total number of people DLing from me. -my 3 cents

24th January 2001, 01:44	#16
drake Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 629	HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THATS a definition of MMMEEE!!! I have 1000+ Mp3s on my computer that are the most rare to find and also the most popular music around but I don't share at all hehehe. I have a 1.5/1.5 DSL which is the speed of a T1 basically but I could care less if people want my music since they have the chance I just post myself as a 14k Work in Progress K-Jofol will never die as long as I don't lose or damage the backup!

15th January 2001, 14:59	#1
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,932	i hate people who have a fast modem, download a couple thousand songs, and then dont share them with anyone! and when they do share songs, they make it so you CANT download the songs! what is there fucking problem. napster is used for SHARING music not for downloading from others and then being a greedy little fucker and not letting people download from you!

15th January 2001, 16:52	#3
Matt Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: England Posts: 3,397	I've got about 500 mp3's on the hard disk at the moment. I don't share. I did once for a bit. My connection is just too slow. I can't have people getting my songs, I need all the bandwidth for myself Not that I use Napster that much.

15th January 2001, 21:10	#4
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,231	I let people share my music, even though I am on a 56k. I am soooo generous, I just have to spread my love....

16th January 2001, 00:21	#6
MamiyaOtaru Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Ciudad Warez Posts: 278	sounds fair.. I use the WinMX client, which allows you to set max number of uploads TOTAL, not just per user. That way people have a chance of getting stuff, but not 20 people at once. Prolly still makes people think I'm an asshole tho

16th January 2001, 00:37	#7
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,932	im talking about a guy on a T1 who has roughly 1000 songs. he is sharing all of them, just not letting anyone download.

23rd January 2001, 21:20	#10
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,431	And your point is?

23rd January 2001, 21:51	#11
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,932	AHHH!!!!! i kill him! us fast people get slowed down by you slow people, so slow people should download from slow people. like middle class with middle class, and upper class with upper class

24th January 2001, 00:17	#15
nateJC Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: an interstella burst i'm back to save the universe Posts: 953	To MamiyaOtaru: Ah, I see. Actually, I've been thinking about it and this whole download problem is an endless cycle. Cable users flock to download from T3 users and piss them off, 56k users flock to Cable users and piss them off, and maybe 28.8 users flock to 56k and piss them off?. Anyway, here's what I'm trying to say: 1) I understand. I'll be nicer to 56k people on Napster. 2) Will you e-mail me that proggy you have?

24th January 2001, 01:56	#17
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,431	Well, that just makes you a selfish piece of shit, doesn't it?

24th January 2001, 02:19	#18
drake Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 629	well yes in a way but I do host a radio station with all my music during times when I am off my computer. That isn't selfish. The reason I don't let people download is too many people have 56 k modems or worse and I don't have the freetime for people to download of me taking an hour a song. Work in Progress K-Jofol will never die as long as I don't lose or damage the backup!

24th January 2001, 05:00	#19
MamiyaOtaru Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Ciudad Warez Posts: 278	nateJC The program I use is WinMX, available for free at WinMX.com it is a Napster client. I believe Audiognome is capable of the same thing. Check it out, the site lists the features, which are pretty kick A. Oh yeah.. and the other reason for DLing from a cable/T* from your modem, they are full time connections, while other modems are apt to cut out cause someone needs to use the phone.. I know what you mean about attracting slowpokes though Drake: you don't have the freetime? Whaaa? It's not like you have to sit there and drool, staring at the progress bar while they download you could just let it run and do your own thing elsewhere Of course, it's your puter.. you can be selfish if you like

24th January 2001, 14:07	#20
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,431	I get cable, finally, next week at which time my PC stays on 24/7 with napster open for all to choose. Selfishness and ignorance isn't my style. Most of the music you've aquired has been from 56k, hasn't it? And don't lie, I know better.

24th January 2001, 19:35	#21
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,932	bad person username is dlperki (i am also adding drake_2 to my deathlist) that is just greedy and evil, so evil i cant even think of words to describe you. sure 56k is slow, and they take up our bandwith, but think of them! i mean if they are downloading at .05 k/s then go ahead and disconnect them. but you have A FUCKING CABLE/T1 etc... YOUR CONNECTED ALL THE TIME! you dont have to get offline to use the phone. and i am sure that they arent taking that much bandwith "gee this 56k person is making me download at 50k/s instead of 100k/s, im going to disconnect him" oh big fucking deal, 50k/s is still pretty fast on napster.

24th January 2001, 21:23	#22
drake Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 629	No I never aquire from a 56k. I only allow results from Cable or Higher. Why would someone want music from a 56k or below when they have Cable or Above. That would defeat the purpose of a Cable or DSL if they had to still DL at 3 kbps. Work in Progress K-Jofol will never die as long as I don't lose or damage the backup!

24th January 2001, 22:56	#23
Somebody Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,531	I always share. But whenever I am done getting the songs I want, I close everything no matter who is downloading from me.

25th January 2001, 04:47	#25
drake Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 629	Well here was what I was getting at. I could DL of 5 Cables at once each at 10 kbps or I could DL off 5 56k modems at 3 kbps. Which is more appealing? If I can finish DL's quicker from Cables whats the purpose of 56ks? They just take longer to get using them. No matter what number Cables and DSL's or above will always be faster than 56ks except when it you DL so much that it becomes a speed problem for you as in if you were DLing 60 from a Cable or 60 from a 56k it wouldn't matter but I never DL that many at once. Anyone understand what I am getting at? Work in Progress K-Jofol will never die as long as I don't lose or damage the backup!

25th January 2001, 06:25	#26
Jericho Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 37	My dad just uninstalled Napster tonight because he is a crazy man who eats too much peanut butter and it goes straight to his brain. The rrrrrrrrrrr key is jamming again, this was first mentioned in the Winamp 3 post about crackers (but disguised as Winamp 3 thread to trick people into reading it). So I don't have to worry much about people on Napster being an ass anymore.

25th January 2001, 07:08	#27
TechHead9 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 42	I have DSL.. my average download speed is 150kps .. pretty fast.. when I download people with a T1/T3 connection it's as if am downloading from a 56k modem because, here's the kicker, they themselves have 50 000 downloads going. I personally let anyone share my music because I think it should be heard.. even people with 56k modems. My download speed is so fast I like to consider myself as invisible. I'm like my own little server. I have several people with 56k modems download stuff from me.. and I don't mind the wait at all.. because when I turn on Napster I'm usually on for a couple of hours anyway. So what's the big deal? Download songs one at a time. Your average speed increases (if it takes you half an hour to download one song but then you download two thinking it will take you an hour, think again. If you download two songs at once it takes 45 minutes for each song to download). Oh well.. just me I guess. I also noticed that most people here listen to punk and whatnot. I listen mostly to stuff like Delerium and Enigma. My faves :O) My napster nick is TechHead9 (of course). See you online

25th January 2001, 07:30	#28
Jericho Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 37	Sweet taste in music, but as mentioned above, I cannot see you online due to an acute lack of Napster.

25th January 2001, 14:49	#29
dmagoo Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 5	My Blazing fast speed!! If I have Napster running, usually I let anyone download if I am not at my computer. If they are downloading from a 56k, I let things slide. But sometimes I notice that they want to download something that is going to take 20 minutes, and I want to shut down Napster. In this case, I normally tell them before I disconnect them, and often, give them a link to the song that they can get off of my web server. When I download, I make a point not to download more than 2 songs from the same user at the same time. When a person with a fast connection downloads from me, and I am feeling ambitious, I will see if they are sharing, and if I can download from them. If not, I send them a message that they should be sharing and sometimes cancel them. I especially do this if they are downloading more than one track at a time from me. They should share! What I hate also, is when people lie about their speed hoping that no one will download from them. That is just lame. I usually don't care, but sometimes I am feeling saucy, and cancel them.

25th January 2001, 19:29	#31
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,932	hell i get on just to LET people download from me. someone was downloading a song i had, i checked that users database, and he had the one song i had searched forever to get. see sharing can be good

27th January 2001, 04:31	#32
Rx Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Classified :) Posts: 64	I share when I'm at school (8hrs a day, 5 days a week) I don't share when I'm online, browsing the web or talking to friends. (Unless I end up leaving the house)

27th January 2001, 04:41	#33
distortion Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Long Island, USA Posts: 109	Okay I've been waiting for someone to raise this topic for a long time. I have about a 1500 song collection myself. On the rare occasion I use napster I share just the folder with the recent stuff (cuz it takes 100 years to get connected with that much stuff ) Inevitably, you attract about a dozen little dialupers who all want a song. Thats fine. I get the song I'm looking for and let them finish but hit close so it lets them finish and doesn't let anyone else start. What pisses the hell out of me is the kiddies who send you messages bitching that you only let them get one song and they wanted the whole album. Thats just too bad my friend. I only needed to be on napster for 5 minutes. I dont have time to let you download each song at 25 minutes per song. The moral of the story is, I'll be nice, you be nice, but dont get crazy or I'll cut you off at 95% so you wasted all that time for an incomplete song Some people forget that its a "community" btw, s1138, congrats on 666 posts

27th January 2001, 14:07	#34
ef280z Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 7	People are addicted to Napster My university is blocking Napster soon, and there are actually students planning on transferring to a school where Napster isn't blocked. Anyone else see a problem with this?

28th January 2001, 03:21	#35
Huehuetenango Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,546	yeah, this thread is very true earlier today i was thinking about napster, and i reallized: i download tons from ppl, but i'm always cancelling uploads. if everyone thought like i did, no one would be able to get anything and napster would be useless even before my realization i would just cancel hourlong uploads or ones for my younger bros bad music (my opinion) but now, i jsut leave it, i hope others will do the same thing how about the ppl who just cancel uploads at 95% for fun? no explanation, no apology NADA

28th January 2001, 05:40	#36
goblin Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 45	There's something that really pisses me off about some Napster users, and that's that they somehow feel it's their right to download entire albums for free from other people who've paid for them. I like artist, I buy artist's album, good for me cos I get album, good for artist cos artist gets money. Someone else likes artist, they d/l album, artists gets nothing, I get nothing except annoyance that I had to pay for it and that person doesn't. Personally I think it would be great if it was possible to prevent somebody downloading more than say 3 songs by a particular artist. (Unfortunately that's not possible technically.) But for people like me who download songs to see if an artist is any good, or to get rare stuff that you can't buy, why should we suffer at the hands of whingers who happen to have a cable or fibre connection, and use that connection to download dozens of mp3s but complain when a 56k user downloads from them? If I download from a cable user, I know they're not going to get disconnected, and I know that if I leave my computer alone it's going to download at 50k+. If I download from a 56k user I have to hope that they don't get cut off from a phone line glitch, and I don't have to worry about my dowload speed decreasing every time they click on a web page link! It makes a hell of a lot of sense to download from somebody faster than you, until you get up to T1 sorts of speeds where you can download almost as fast as you can find songs. As far as the sharing thing goes... well, I'm fine to share my songs, but only if I'm not using my connection for anything else. I mus quite a bit, and if anybody wanted to download from me then, I'd cut them off. And tell them why, mind you. But the question has never arisen, because for some reason, even though I have no firewall or anything, people can't download songs from me, no matter what I do to Napster or my computer.

28th January 2001, 12:32	#37
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,932	i agree, but sometimes people can t download from me. they get a message that said transfer error at 99% but on my side it says file complete this suck because everyone thinks im evil, but i not. i left my computer running ALL night so some guy in asia could download the entire star wars trilogy.

28th January 2001, 18:35	#38
Risc_Terilia Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 18	goblin's artist's money issue Man, i can hear the violins. If its an artist in the charts, its not like they're going to miss £200 from 100 album sales is it. If its not an artist in the charts, its a new band of a progressvie, non mainstreem thing, they will get some exposure out of it. Where's the problem? P.S In my opinion, you sould only have to pay for production costs for CDs, 12"s and tapes, and copyrights should be a thing of the past.

28th January 2001, 19:03	#39
goblin Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 45	Risc_Terilia, Who, exactly, do you think is going to spend more of their time than your average full-time job takes up, writing and playing that music that you listen to? If the artists and bands don't get paid a penny for their work while you enjoy the music, who do you think is going to make music if it means they have to live with no meny whatsoever? If an artists's in the charts, they often DO miss that £200, because as you may or may not know artists actually get paid crap considering the price of CDs, most of it goes to their managers and record labels. A few record sales can actually make a difference to charting artists and bands, many famous artists get around or less than the average wage because of the evil iron-bound contracts their label forces them into. And, speaking from somebody who knows a few, if an artist isn't in the charts (which does NOT mean they're new and progressive), they notice every single record sale. Unsigned bands typically charge £4-5 per album, and they have almost zero production costs, but if you buy their record they will be personally grateful to you for it, since they sell so few. All you want is to listen to good music and not have to pay a thing, and you don't care who you shit on to do it. People like you make me sick.

29th January 2001, 01:25	#40
xapec Guest Posts: n/a	napster i hate the people who don't share. I have a cable connection and 550 mp3's - i share them. (hey my cable connection is from AOL Time Warner's Roadrunner, the same company Nullsoft is owned by, what a coincidence)