We did not land on the moon...! - Page 2

Thor · 17th February 2001, 17:14

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Originally posted by ElChevelle
The moon was expensive and yet we are planning a manned trip to Mars WHILE building a space station? Let's build a friggin McD on the moon!

Allright ... Space Station + possible manned trips to Mars will cost a shit load too ... BUT :
- The ISS is the International Space Station, so not only the US (NASA) pays ! The ESA (European Space Agency) pays a lot too and so does Russia (after they ditch Mir, almost there "spacemoney" will go to ISS)...
- Manned trips to Mars are not for the very near future ... we're talking 10 to 15 years, maybe even more than 20 ...
- Going back to Mars might be seen as a training for Mars, but for science it's not all that interesting anymore ... We sort'a know everything about the moon. And about the training for Mars ... The conditions on the moon and those on mars are VERY DIFFERENT, so I don't think it would be such a good training ...

JackW · 17th February 2001, 17:41

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Originally posted by Thor

- Going back to Mars might be seen as a training for Mars, [/B]

Or it might be seen as accomplishing the objective itself.

Sorry, the old boredom factor kicking in again.

D-cibeL · 17th February 2001, 18:22

About the US flag thing:

The flag has a rod that runs across the top to hold it up. That's why the top is perfectly straight and the rest hangs all funny lookin'.

rm' · 17th February 2001, 18:36

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Originally posted by sim0n__sez
yo RadioActive man do u by any chance speak russian??

What?

tjb2004 · 17th February 2001, 19:04

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Originally posted by Thor

Quote:

Originally posted by ElChevelle
The moon was expensive and yet we are planning a manned trip to Mars WHILE building a space station? Let's build a friggin McD on the moon!

Allright ... Space Station + possible manned trips to Mars will cost a shit load too ... BUT :
- The ISS is the International Space Station, so not only the US (NASA) pays ! The ESA (European Space Agency) pays a lot too and so does Russia (after they ditch Mir, almost there "spacemoney" will go to ISS)...
- Manned trips to Mars are not for the very near future ... we're talking 10 to 15 years, maybe even more than 20 ...
- Going back to Mars might be seen as a training for Mars, but for science it's not all that interesting anymore ... We sort'a know everything about the moon. And about the training for Mars ... The conditions on the moon and those on mars are VERY DIFFERENT, so I don't think it would be such a good training ...

There are at least 15 different countries working on the ISS. I'll see if I can find the picture that I saw.

Huehuetenango · 17th February 2001, 20:32

the world has had the technology to travel to mars since the late 1980s, but b/c of social issues and such, the governments of the world weren't willing to spend the money at the time
also: why in hell would the government spend billions of dollars on nasa, and all the technology and all the launches (and if anyone says those are fake i'm gonna go nuts) if it were fake?

ElChevelle · 17th February 2001, 21:08

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Originally posted by tjb2004
There are at least 15 different countries working on the ISS. I'll see if I can find the picture that I saw.

Really sucks that us Americans are the only ones paying for the ISS. Should actually be called America's space station that everyone else rides for free!

TechHead9 · 17th February 2001, 21:10

I'm gay.

Thor · 17th February 2001, 21:11

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Originally posted by ElChevelle

Quote:

Originally posted by tjb2004
There are at least 15 different countries working on the ISS. I'll see if I can find the picture that I saw.

Really sucks that us Americans are the only ones paying for the ISS. Should actually be called America's space station that everyone else rides for free!

Bullshit ! Ok, the US/NASA pays the biggest part, but I don't think that more then 30-40% of the whole project ...

tjb2004 · 17th February 2001, 21:16

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Originally posted by TechHead9
<img src="http://www.universalentity.atfreeweb.com/images/mlh1.jpg">

The yellow angled lines represents the angle that the sun is shining. As the angle is the same when a still picture is taken (of course as the moon turns the angles change) you can determine where where shadows of certain objects are giong to start/end. Because the astronaut is in fact in the air his shadow doesn't start until the bottom right hand side of the picture and it is only of his feet. The shadow thickens before it is finally cut off because more and more of his body is blocking the sunlight as you move along the shadow. Whoever said that there is no shadow for the astronaut wasn't really looking all that hard. Also, because astronauts have to jump on the moon insead of actually walking, the shadow only ever touches the astronaut's feet when he lands and then moves further away from his body the higher he goes up, so the uneducated freak who said this guy doesn't have a shadow was obviously thinking in terms of "walking on the ground" instead of jumping. This one is a no brainer if you actually look at it :O)

WTF dude. We knew that like a year ago. And how did you become a Senior Member and not even know the forums use vB code, not HTML.

TechHead9 · 17th February 2001, 21:18

LOL oh shut up LOL Ok you knew that a year ago.. whatever.. never hurts to freshen the memory!

ElChevelle · 17th February 2001, 21:19

Just for laughs then, let's see what other country can lift mega ton equipment into space without our beloved and overused space shuttle fleet. I could just see Niberia shooting a volkswagen with it's trunk full of multi million dollar payload into orbit via giant rubberband slingshots. You have any idea how much of our tax money goes toward shuttle maintenance? 30-40 percent my NASA tattooed ass!

tjb2004 · 17th February 2001, 21:20

Quote:

Originally posted by ElChevelle
Really sucks that us Americans are the only ones paying for the ISS. Should actually be called America's space station that everyone else rides for free!

Pardon me but are you retarded? It's call the International Space Station because every part that a country works on, they pay for. So either you are talking just to hear yourself talk or I can't read.

sgtfuzzbubble011 · 17th February 2001, 21:23

I live about 45 minutes from John C. Stennis Space Center... That's where NASA tests the rocket engines for the space shuttle and other space vehicles. Every now and then, if they are testing the engines, I can stand on my front porch and hear the rumble from over 70 miles away.

The also have the world's largest NASA logo on one of the test facility buildings there...

ElChevelle · 17th February 2001, 21:27

International, hmmm.
International is used by the U.S. on just about everything.
The biggest of Internationals being our Treasury department being dubbed the International Bank due to our loaning nearly every country aid with no guarantee of ever getting a return. Seems our own rednecks are joined by foreigners in the "Great Welfare Line".

tjb2004 · 17th February 2001, 21:33

Wow. Go to www.nasa.gov and read the main news item on that page.

ElChevelle · 17th February 2001, 21:39

Meteors aren't manufactured on Earth either, big deal. Interesting that NASA feels a need to defend themselves against a hoax.

tjb2004 · 17th February 2001, 21:45

Ah, well, this proves a point for both sides, click it now!
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/...onent_view.pdf

18th February 2001, 01:52

well everyone acts like its the first time the u.s. government lied.

rm' · 18th February 2001, 03:19

Quote:

Originally posted by ElChevelle
Niberia

Poptart_Jr · 18th February 2001, 15:39

If you did see the special, the guy that thinks that we did not land on the moon only used pictures and poor quality film. Pictures, in '69 were of very poor quality. Film, on the other hand, was much better. Which is why the guy didn't show much of it. Because it would prove him wrong. I will explain everything wrong with that idiot.

Flag waving:
As we all, hopefully, know, there is much less gravity on the moon. And for all of us who are even remotely smart, the less gravity means that the flag will wave even more. DUH! The slightest movement will send it flying in all directions. Just like if you were to shoot a gun off on the moon, you would go flying backwards. Same thing with the flag. Just the motion of him putting the flag up would make the flag wave.

Radiation:
NASA thought about radiation problems. They figured it all out. All possibilities of radiation where blocked out by Moo-Metal (A special metal which blocks major radiation and electromagnetic frequencies i.e radio signals).

If I forgot to explain anything, just e-mail me at Poptart_jr@Hotmail.com
I will explain all.

17th February 2001, 21:33	#56
tjb2004 Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Rocky River, Ohio. Posts: 1,881	Wow. Go to www.nasa.gov and read the main news item on that page. Hype? tjb2004.deviantart.com

17th February 2001, 21:45	#58
tjb2004 Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Rocky River, Ohio. Posts: 1,881	Ah, well, this proves a point for both sides, click it now! http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/...onent_view.pdf Hype? tjb2004.deviantart.com

18th February 2001, 15:39	#61
Poptart_Jr Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia, USA Posts: 2	Yes....We did Land On The Moon. If you did see the special, the guy that thinks that we did not land on the moon only used pictures and poor quality film. Pictures, in '69 were of very poor quality. Film, on the other hand, was much better. Which is why the guy didn't show much of it. Because it would prove him wrong. I will explain everything wrong with that idiot. Flag waving: As we all, hopefully, know, there is much less gravity on the moon. And for all of us who are even remotely smart, the less gravity means that the flag will wave even more. DUH! The slightest movement will send it flying in all directions. Just like if you were to shoot a gun off on the moon, you would go flying backwards. Same thing with the flag. Just the motion of him putting the flag up would make the flag wave. Radiation: NASA thought about radiation problems. They figured it all out. All possibilities of radiation where blocked out by Moo-Metal (A special metal which blocks major radiation and electromagnetic frequencies i.e radio signals). If I forgot to explain anything, just e-mail me at Poptart_jr@Hotmail.com I will explain all.

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17th February 2001, 18:22	#43
D-cibeL Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: the basement Posts: 158	About the US flag thing: The flag has a rod that runs across the top to hold it up. That's why the top is perfectly straight and the rest hangs all funny lookin'.

17th February 2001, 20:32	#46
Huehuetenango Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,546	the world has had the technology to travel to mars since the late 1980s, but b/c of social issues and such, the governments of the world weren't willing to spend the money at the time also: why in hell would the government spend billions of dollars on nasa, and all the technology and all the launches (and if anyone says those are fake i'm gonna go nuts) if it were fake?

17th February 2001, 21:10	#48
TechHead9 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 42	I'm gay.

17th February 2001, 21:18	#51
TechHead9 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 42	LOL oh shut up LOL Ok you knew that a year ago.. whatever.. never hurts to freshen the memory!

17th February 2001, 21:19	#52
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	Just for laughs then, let's see what other country can lift mega ton equipment into space without our beloved and overused space shuttle fleet. I could just see Niberia shooting a volkswagen with it's trunk full of multi million dollar payload into orbit via giant rubberband slingshots. You have any idea how much of our tax money goes toward shuttle maintenance? 30-40 percent my NASA tattooed ass!

17th February 2001, 21:23	#54
sgtfuzzbubble011 Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 60,839	I live about 45 minutes from John C. Stennis Space Center... That's where NASA tests the rocket engines for the space shuttle and other space vehicles. Every now and then, if they are testing the engines, I can stand on my front porch and hear the rumble from over 70 miles away. The also have the world's largest NASA logo on one of the test facility buildings there...

17th February 2001, 21:27	#55
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	International, hmmm. International is used by the U.S. on just about everything. The biggest of Internationals being our Treasury department being dubbed the International Bank due to our loaning nearly every country aid with no guarantee of ever getting a return. Seems our own rednecks are joined by foreigners in the "Great Welfare Line".

17th February 2001, 21:39	#57
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	Meteors aren't manufactured on Earth either, big deal. Interesting that NASA feels a need to defend themselves against a hoax.

18th February 2001, 01:52	#59
xapec Guest Posts: n/a	well everyone acts like its the first time the u.s. government lied.