Old 16th September 2018, 19:20   #1
PeterK.
Quinto Black CT Developer
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 489
Winamp 5.8 Beta leaks online

"Now, almost 4 years later and ahead of an expected official company announcement, a beta version for the upcoming Winamp 5.8 (winamp58_3653_beta_full_en-us.exe) bearing a build date of October 26, 2016 has apparently been leaked on the web after being uploaded to the public by an anonymous user on a selection of filesharing sites."

More info here.

@DJ Egg: would you please confirm that this is an official release.
PeterK. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th September 2018, 20:52   #2
musicf8
Major Dude
 
musicf8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 690

(┛◉Д◉)┛彡ʎɯouoıpɐɹ

Current status of Winamp 5.8: Beta released, the last desktop version get wacup

Winamp v5.6.6.3516 bumping through Windows 10 Pro w/ Logitech Z-5500
musicf8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th September 2018, 00:04   #3
thinktink
Forum King
 
thinktink's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: On the streets of Kings County, CA.
Posts: 2,970
Send a message via Skype™ to thinktink
Betas are never official public releases. The fact that it was posted anonymously also makes it not an official release. AFAIK posting Betas is a violation of the Beta testers agreement.
thinktink is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th September 2018, 08:56   #4
Pawel
Moderator
 
Pawel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Poland
Posts: 517
Send a message via ICQ to Pawel
This build is just a beta, for sure not official release. It is work in progress test compilation.
It is a shame someone leaked it. But, maybe this situation will remind the RN that they have rights to this program and they do nothing for few years now...

Ps: As far as I remember we (betatesters) did not make any agreement with RN - it was rather something like mutual trust.
Pawel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th September 2018, 15:15   #5
MrSinatra
Forum King
 
MrSinatra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: WKPS, State College
Posts: 5,380
Send a message via AIM to MrSinatra
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....80#post3160880

PENN STATE Radio or http://www.LION-Radio.org/
--
BUG #1 = Winamp skips short tracks
Wish #1 = Multiple Column Sorting
Wish #2 = Add TCMP/Compilation editing
MrSinatra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th September 2018, 16:37   #6
Alrock
Junior Member
 
Alrock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 39
If I try this will it mess with my current winamp setup or can I run both instances seperatley if installed to a different location?
Alrock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th September 2018, 18:19   #7
MrSinatra
Forum King
 
MrSinatra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: WKPS, State College
Posts: 5,380
Send a message via AIM to MrSinatra
I think if u choose a different location than the default/current install, u will be ok, but I am NOT positive of that. Both installs MIGHT share certain locations like for temp files, scratch playlists, etc, idk.

Would def be interested to hear ur exp trying it.

PENN STATE Radio or http://www.LION-Radio.org/
--
BUG #1 = Winamp skips short tracks
Wish #1 = Multiple Column Sorting
Wish #2 = Add TCMP/Compilation editing
MrSinatra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th September 2018, 18:54   #8
musicf8
Major Dude
 
musicf8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 690
I would just run it in a VM if you just want to play with it, that's what I did

(┛◉Д◉)┛彡ʎɯouoıpɐɹ

Current status of Winamp 5.8: Beta released, the last desktop version get wacup

Winamp v5.6.6.3516 bumping through Windows 10 Pro w/ Logitech Z-5500
musicf8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th September 2018, 19:36   #9
MrSinatra
Forum King
 
MrSinatra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: WKPS, State College
Posts: 5,380
Send a message via AIM to MrSinatra
And your opinion of it is?

PENN STATE Radio or http://www.LION-Radio.org/
--
BUG #1 = Winamp skips short tracks
Wish #1 = Multiple Column Sorting
Wish #2 = Add TCMP/Compilation editing
MrSinatra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th September 2018, 19:47   #10
musicf8
Major Dude
 
musicf8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 690
meh, it's winamp. I mostly just looked at the credits and poked around, I didn't play with it extensively, so I wouldn't use it as my primary player over 5.666.

(┛◉Д◉)┛彡ʎɯouoıpɐɹ

Current status of Winamp 5.8: Beta released, the last desktop version get wacup

Winamp v5.6.6.3516 bumping through Windows 10 Pro w/ Logitech Z-5500
musicf8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th September 2018, 20:06   #11
Serpher
Senior Member
 
Serpher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Poland
Posts: 146
And apparently it is a backdoor. Wouldn't be surprised.
https://www.virustotal.com/de/file/b...6577/analysis/

Sorry for my bad English
=====================
MB: Gigabyte P35C-DS3R || CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (3.00 GHz) || RAM: 8 GB Kingston DDR3 1333MHz || Audio card: ASUS Xonar D2X || Video card: GeForce 460 GTX || OS: Windows 7 SP1 || DirectX: 9.0c (latest) || Winamp version: latest || Winamp skin: Modern
Serpher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th September 2018, 20:09   #12
musicf8
Major Dude
 
musicf8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 690
Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpher View Post
And apparently it is a backdoor. Wouldn't be surprised.
https://www.virustotal.com/de/file/b...6577/analysis/
most likely false positives

(┛◉Д◉)┛彡ʎɯouoıpɐɹ

Current status of Winamp 5.8: Beta released, the last desktop version get wacup

Winamp v5.6.6.3516 bumping through Windows 10 Pro w/ Logitech Z-5500
musicf8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th September 2018, 22:30   #13
exdeon
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 21
I got a warning.
exdeon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th September 2018, 22:31   #14
exdeon
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 21
Thanks for your sharing
exdeon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th September 2018, 09:01   #15
Merowinger
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 1
And of course, german IT "News" page CHIP.de is spreading the suspicious Beta.

https://www.chip.de/news/Winamp-5.8-...148905019.html
Merowinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th September 2018, 11:31   #16
PeterK.
Quinto Black CT Developer
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 489
Almost every computer magazine/blog is jumping on that train right now! Soon the term "Beta" will vanish from the articles and all of them will praise the release of the brand new Winamp 5.8 version! Hallelujah!

I am still curious how it happened though. Did someone hack Radionomy's server and steal it? Did someone hack DJ Egg's computer and steal the beta? Was it a "hero" among the testers, who gave us what we have been demanding for such a long time? And was it a "heroic" act at all? Or just theft?

Last edited by PeterK.; 18th September 2018 at 13:26.
PeterK. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th September 2018, 12:16   #17
DJ-Garybaldy
Major Dude
 
DJ-Garybaldy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Harpurhey, Manchester UK
Posts: 842
I'm not even going to entertain this so called "Beta" JIC it manages to F**K my PC up... always weary of software that isn't from an official release statement.



Proud USER of RadioDJ since 2011 - People say I'm biased!

Online: Twitter - Facebook - RadioDJv2
DJ-Garybaldy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th September 2018, 13:24   #18
PeterK.
Quinto Black CT Developer
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 489
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ-Garybaldy View Post
I'm not even going to entertain this so called "Beta" JIC it manages to F**K my PC up... always weary of software that isn't from an official release statement.
Meanwhile you cannot access the download page. It takes ages to load it and the download process does not complete. At least my Firefox complains. Hence I even cannot make my own opinion about this release. Still running old, good 5.666.
PeterK. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th September 2018, 16:29   #19
musicf8
Major Dude
 
musicf8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 690
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterK. View Post

I am still curious how it happened though. Did someone hack Radionomy's server and steal it? Did someone hack DJ Egg's computer and steal the beta? Was it a "hero" among the testers, who gave us what we have been demanding for such a long time? And was it a "heroic" act at all? Or just theft?
Twitter account was hacked recently, they could have gotten the location and login info from a DM

(┛◉Д◉)┛彡ʎɯouoıpɐɹ

Current status of Winamp 5.8: Beta released, the last desktop version get wacup

Winamp v5.6.6.3516 bumping through Windows 10 Pro w/ Logitech Z-5500
musicf8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th September 2018, 19:15   #20
PeterK.
Quinto Black CT Developer
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 489
Quote:
Originally Posted by musicf8 View Post
Twitter account was hacked recently...
I am aware of this but still doubt "those" hackers were after Winamp in the first place.
PeterK. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th September 2018, 19:22   #21
musicf8
Major Dude
 
musicf8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 690
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterK. View Post
I am aware of this but still doubt "those" hackers were after Winamp in the first place.
well, yeah, I doubt they were specifically after winamp, but if you hack an account, why wouldn't you skim through all the messages, find something like an unreleased beta, and post it.

(┛◉Д◉)┛彡ʎɯouoıpɐɹ

Current status of Winamp 5.8: Beta released, the last desktop version get wacup

Winamp v5.6.6.3516 bumping through Windows 10 Pro w/ Logitech Z-5500
musicf8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th September 2018, 19:42   #22
MrSinatra
Forum King
 
MrSinatra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: WKPS, State College
Posts: 5,380
Send a message via AIM to MrSinatra
assuming this is legit, and no malware was snuck into it, i approve and applaud the kind soul who very bravely posted this so we, the people who love winamp, can benefit from it.

i just hope the source code is next.

jic the page this was on goes down, i assume this is whats in the Winamp 5.8 about dialog:

Quote:
Check out the full changelog below:

New: Windows Audio (WASAPI) Output plug-in (w.i.p.)
Improved: Added an option to completely disable Winamp's video support
Improved: Added an auto-fullscreen option to video prefs
Improved: Added /ENUMPLAYLISTS to the command-line support
Improved: Windows 8.1 and 10 compatibility
Improved: [in_mod] OpenMPT-based Module Player (replaces old MikMod player)
Improved: [ml_playlists] Added browse path & edit title functions in Ctrl+E editor
Improved: [Bento] Updated scrollbars and buttons and other tweaks (thanks Martin)
Improved: [Bento & Modern skins] Added a Playlist Search feature (thanks Victor)
Fixed: New URLs not being remembered after using Reset history in Open URL dialog
Fixed: Various memory leaks
Fixed: [gen_tray] Not showing correct current icon pack in preferences
Fixed: [in_avi] Divide-by-zero crash with badly formed files (thanks ITDefensor)
Fixed: [in_mp3] Crashing with some ID3v2 tags
Fixed: [ml_wire] Slow loading issue
Fixed: [ssdp] Crash on load if jnetlib was not correctly initialized
Misc: Minimum required OS is now Win XP sp3 (Windows 7 or higher recommended)
Misc: More general tweaks, improvements, fixes and optimizations
Misc: Moved shared DLLs to Winamp\Shared folder
Misc: MP3 Encoder must now be downloaded manually (to Shared folder)
Removed: All former "Pro" licensed functions (Winamp is now 100% freeware again)
Removed: gen_jumpex & UnicodeTaskbarFix (making way for native implementations)
Removed: [in_wm] DRM support
Replaced: CD playback and ripping now using native Windows API (instead of Sonic)
Replaced: MP3 Decoder now mpg123 based (instead of Fraunhofer)
Replaced: AAC Decoder now using Media Foundation (Vista and higher)
Replaced: H.264 Decoder now using Media Foundation (Vista and higher)
Replaced: MPEG-4 Pt.2 Decoder now using Media Foundation (Vista and higher)
Updated: [in_vorbis] libogg 1.3.2 & libvorbis 1.3.5 (aoTuV b6.03)
Updated: [libyajl] libyajl v2.1.0
Updated: [OpenSSL] OpenSSL v1.0.1i
Updated: [png] libpng v1.5.24
just the new mp3 decoder is alone a big deal, the Q of course being is it better?

other apps like EAC and mp3tag can do metadata lookups and autotagging... so the Q is can a plugin be made to add that stuff back to winamp? (i believe the now defunct inhouse version was itself a plugin that worked with Gracenote for text tags, and allmusic.com for pics)

PENN STATE Radio or http://www.LION-Radio.org/
--
BUG #1 = Winamp skips short tracks
Wish #1 = Multiple Column Sorting
Wish #2 = Add TCMP/Compilation editing
MrSinatra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th September 2018, 20:00   #23
PeterK.
Quinto Black CT Developer
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 489
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSinatra View Post
...i just hope the source code is next.
Would you dare to keep a stolen source code on your PC? Or even release it online? Five minutes later there is a S.W.A.T. team in your apartment. No doubt!

This is not the approach we should be seeking here pal.
PeterK. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th September 2018, 20:02   #24
MrSinatra
Forum King
 
MrSinatra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: WKPS, State College
Posts: 5,380
Send a message via AIM to MrSinatra
i have no access to betas or the source code, beyond what is publicly available.

i merely advocate their public availability, and there is nothing wrong with that, pal.

PENN STATE Radio or http://www.LION-Radio.org/
--
BUG #1 = Winamp skips short tracks
Wish #1 = Multiple Column Sorting
Wish #2 = Add TCMP/Compilation editing
MrSinatra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th September 2018, 09:07   #25
PeterK.
Quinto Black CT Developer
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 489
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSinatra View Post
... and no malware was snuck into it ...
Apparently it is clean.
PeterK. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th September 2018, 15:11   #26
exdeon
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 21
I downloaded it. I liked it.
exdeon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th September 2018, 22:21   #27
gaekwad2
Foorum King
 
gaekwad2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: bar2000
Posts: 11,407
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSinatra View Post
just the new mp3 decoder is alone a big deal, the Q of course being is it better?
No, just free software.

The last Winamp mp3 decoder that wasn't technically perfect (in terms of sound quality, iirc there were some occasional stability/security fixes later on) was Nitrane.
gaekwad2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2018, 15:35   #28
exdeon
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 21
Winamp Stopped Error?

What should I do?
exdeon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2018, 15:39   #29
musicf8
Major Dude
 
musicf8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 690
Switch back to 5.666

(┛◉Д◉)┛彡ʎɯouoıpɐɹ

Current status of Winamp 5.8: Beta released, the last desktop version get wacup

Winamp v5.6.6.3516 bumping through Windows 10 Pro w/ Logitech Z-5500
musicf8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2018, 18:12   #30
PeterK.
Quinto Black CT Developer
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 489
Quote:
Originally Posted by musicf8 View Post
Switch back to 5.666

Do not bother, exdeon is a bot. It made five posts within seven minutes today.
PeterK. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2018, 18:22   #31
musicf8
Major Dude
 
musicf8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 690
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterK. View Post

Do not bother, exdeon is a bot. It made five posts within seven minutes today.
meh, i'll probably keep replying to bots until something is done in the forums to prevent bots

(┛◉Д◉)┛彡ʎɯouoıpɐɹ

Current status of Winamp 5.8: Beta released, the last desktop version get wacup

Winamp v5.6.6.3516 bumping through Windows 10 Pro w/ Logitech Z-5500
musicf8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2018, 18:24   #32
NJK
Frisian Spamfighting Mod
 
NJK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: a real Frisian hometown
Posts: 14,792
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterK. View Post

Do not bother, exdeon is a bot. It made five posts within seven minutes today.
i can do 7 posts within 7 minuts,
there is a wait time of one minut after each post.

( except of course mods etc )

as long as i don't see any spamlinks i won't ban anyone
as soon as a link with spam is posted it's a one way ticket to banned island with the famous Mr Jones banhammer....

Each Thursday a new show on Celtica Radio with Darkwave music.
**************************************************************************
forumrules
WINAMP
SHOUTCAST
NJK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2018, 18:26   #33
PeterK.
Quinto Black CT Developer
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 489
Quote:
Originally Posted by musicf8 View Post
meh, i'll probably keep replying to bots until something is done in the forums to prevent bots
Would it be so hard to add a captcha below every reply window?
PeterK. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2018, 18:36   #34
NJK
Frisian Spamfighting Mod
 
NJK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: a real Frisian hometown
Posts: 14,792
Quote:
Originally Posted by musicf8 View Post
meh, i'll probably keep replying to bots until something is done in the forums to prevent bots


ideas on how to are welcome

you can't see when they make the account which one is a bot and which one isn't
and you got no idea how many are already stopped before they can even post....

Each Thursday a new show on Celtica Radio with Darkwave music.
**************************************************************************
forumrules
WINAMP
SHOUTCAST
NJK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2018, 18:47   #35
thinktink
Forum King
 
thinktink's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: On the streets of Kings County, CA.
Posts: 2,970
Send a message via Skype™ to thinktink
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterK. View Post
Would it be so hard to add a captcha below every reply window?
No, that would frustrate legit regulars. Just do the captcha during account signup.
thinktink is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2018, 18:47   #36
musicf8
Major Dude
 
musicf8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 690
I'm aware that there's already things in place to stop fake accounts (e.g. can't use gmail/outlook/yahoo email accounts). All I am saying is if someone posts something that doesn't look spammy and I have a response, then I will respond. About 50% of the time I might look at posting history if it's a relatively new account to see if it's legit, but this last post for example, I was in line at starbucks checking my fone. So yeah...

(┛◉Д◉)┛彡ʎɯouoıpɐɹ

Current status of Winamp 5.8: Beta released, the last desktop version get wacup

Winamp v5.6.6.3516 bumping through Windows 10 Pro w/ Logitech Z-5500
musicf8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st September 2018, 18:49   #37
musicf8
Major Dude
 
musicf8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 690
Quote:
Originally Posted by thinktink View Post
No, that would frustrate legit regulars. Just do the captcha during account signup.
agreed, I use a VPN for my daily browsing at work, and captcha won't let me through, so having a captcha every post would just make me post less

(┛◉Д◉)┛彡ʎɯouoıpɐɹ

Current status of Winamp 5.8: Beta released, the last desktop version get wacup

Winamp v5.6.6.3516 bumping through Windows 10 Pro w/ Logitech Z-5500
musicf8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th September 2018, 09:33   #38
voodoohippie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Elizabeth City, NC
Posts: 213
Send a message via Yahoo to voodoohippie
I've not posted in a while and just came to see the progress of Winamp.

I'm glad there is a legit FREE version of Winamp that does not need any KeyGen to rip a CD or use Mp3's. The fact that you have to use a LAME encoder DLL proves that this may indeed be a legit FREEWARE leak and not simply an already cracked version of Winamp under an assumed version name.

But I still like the version I have and see no reason to put this version in unless I have a system crash and have to reinstall Windows 10. Then it may be worth a try.

Great Broadcasting Software Windows XP/7/8
http://nextkast.com

For Progressive Rock, Classic Rock http://thelegacy.shorturl.com
voodoohippie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th September 2018, 09:42   #39
Twilightseer
Frenchoderator
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite
Posts: 6,310
Quote:
Originally Posted by voodoohippie View Post
I've not posted in a while and just came to see the progress of Winamp.

I'm glad there is a legit FREE version of Winamp that does not need any KeyGen to rip a CD or use Mp3's.

Honestly, after all these years, I don't understand why anyone would use Winamp to rip CDs when there are so many superior alternatives that provided secure ripping i.e. CueRipper.
Twilightseer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th October 2018, 06:36   #40
eliotime3000
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 19
I used to rip CD's and MP3's with the Winamp MP3 Ripper/encoder

Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilightseer View Post
Honestly, after all these years, I don't understand why anyone would use Winamp to rip CDs when there are so many superior alternatives that provided secure ripping i.e. CueRipper.
I usually was a hardcore user of Winamp MP3 decoder and/or CD ripper. It was much more advanced in comparisson to iTunes MP3 encoder for CD ripping.

Now that I discovered much more better alternatives to Winamp MP3 encoder and CD ripper, I don't need to use them longer.
eliotime3000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Go Back   Winamp & SHOUTcast Forums > Winamp > Winamp Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump