Best DSP??

Wiseguy · 6th July 2001, 12:58

What's the Best DSP Program you have used with WinAmp?

I like DFX. IS there anything better?
Also input Plug-in's.
I like CDReader.

Thanks,

7th July 2001, 03:27

I use Dee (it's like DFX but free) and Pace Maker. (I'll hopefully update this soon with the URLs when my downlods are done, I hate dial-up).

Wiseguy · 7th July 2001, 14:08

Quote:

Originally posted by sawg
I use Dee (it's like DFX but free) and Pace Maker. (I'll hopefully update this soon with the URLs when my downlods are done, I hate dial-up).

DEE and DFX seem to be the best.
What do you like more about DEE Besides it's free?

Thanks for the reply!

Twilightseer · 9th July 2001, 09:07

Also check out Enhancer

http://www.winamp.com/plugins/detail...ponentId=58026

10th July 2001, 03:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Wiseguy
DEE and DFX seem to be the best.
What do you like more about DEE Besides it's free?

Thanks for the reply!

It seemd to be less resource intensive the DFX, but I have no data to back that up.

Twilightseer · 10th July 2001, 07:08

Dee has a very cool GUI and the effects are really good.

klumy · 13th July 2001, 18:40

Dee is cool
Besides it is Freeware ;-)

hello · 17th July 2001, 16:23

i can't find Dee in the plugins.... can u provide a link here?

Twilightseer · 18th July 2001, 07:35

Sure

http://dee.mp3.ms

hello · 18th July 2001, 13:15

thanks! it's really cool

Twilightseer · 18th July 2001, 13:17

Enhancer is really cool as well.
Check it out if you like good DSP plug-ins.

hello · 19th July 2001, 06:42

wat r the best settings 4 dee? there r no presets available......

Twilightseer · 19th July 2001, 08:38

Quote:

Originally posted by hello
wat r the best settings 4 dee? there r no presets available......

Just tweak the settings until you get a sound you like.
It's pretty simple

Kalervo Manni · 19th July 2001, 16:09

Why we need DSP? I'm now listening to Winamp, it's playing mp3's decoded with LAME 3.89 at 192 kbps without any DSP plugins. I'm using Winamp 2.76 default in_mp3 plugin and it sounds damn good. You just need pair of good speakers and good amp.

Twilightseer · 20th July 2001, 07:20

Enhancer really improves the sound quality, imho.
But if you don't need any DSP, cool

wolfkhan · 16th August 2001, 23:14

Just deleted my registered DFX 5.1 as this little proggy is a real gem

hello · 17th August 2001, 13:01

You paid 4 it & you deleted it? thats a waste of $$$....

hello · 11th October 2001, 07:48

While looking for new plugins i stumbled on iztope ozone....... Do you think it is good? or is dfx or dee better???

Twilightseer · 11th October 2001, 07:51

Ozone is impressive but it's shareware.

You can also check out the new versions of Enhancer
www.geocities.com/i_adryan

BrianM · 13th October 2001, 19:17

Ozone IMHO blows away DFX and Dee. The bass from Ozone in particular and just a hard to describe "fullness" that it adds. Put all three in a DSP stacker and you can switch between them quickly and hear the difference. There really is a big difference.

hello · 14th October 2001, 12:20

well i think DFX sounds better, with the fidelity meter maxed out...... but ozone gives better bass. perhaps if i have the full version i can tinker it to sound better, but no way am i gonna splash out so much $ on such a small piece of programming! shareware sucks
!

hello · 13th November 2001, 17:25

How about ranking your top ten DSPs from 1 to 10?

1)DFX
2)Enhancer
3)Dee
4)Ozone......
& so on......

Twilightseer · 14th November 2001, 06:43

10 is a bit too much

Mine would be
1) Enhancer
2) Ozone
3) DFX
4) Dee

DoubleG · 14th November 2001, 14:16

Dee is the best

(for the simple reason that all the others you are comparing it with cost $) Call me cheap, but for free the difference in quality between dee & others is negli...umm neglagib... wait... the difference is - OH there isn't that big of a difference!

Firebrand · 14th November 2001, 16:33

After some testing on my computer speakers (moderate quality) and some nice headphones...

- The Winamp EQ sounds more distored than any of the DSP's mentioned yet, so it's out of the question for me
- DFX is my favorite of the general DSP's in that it sounds least distorted while enhancing a lot of music...however many songs don't sound good with it and I don't want to have to toggle it all the time
- Dee distorts the music too much, and the author is a little bass happy -- most of the default presets, including the default "optimal", almost shook my monitor off the table with its bass (however, if cost is an issue this is the one to use...$20 is a little crazy for a DSP after all)
- SuperEQ is what I decided to use. A generic EQ setting that you like for most of your music will sound just find without the need for constant toggling. It doesn't seem to distort the music at all, however since you can't set a +db (a big reason it won't distort) the music will get too quiet if you set the -db too low (the author got carried away with how "powerful" it is....-95db is a little extreme

The interface could also use some work, and is slightly buggy

If you want them rated,
1) SuperEQ
2) DFX
3) Dee
-) Enhancer and Ozone (didn't test them much because I wasn't impressed for one reason or another)
X) Winamp EQ (last place, never realized how much it distorts)

Ozy osi · 22nd November 2001, 10:06

I personally used HeadAmp DSP plug_in.dll (which is kind of hard to find) but it allows you to have really loud sound (and of course that with headphone, normal speakers in Pc's are quiete "cheap" and low quality of sound). You can even have the eq at 20 (max amp) and each band at 4.1 and the sound doesn't get that choppy. If you really want to try this out email and I will find a way to guide to the file.

Kaboon · 22nd November 2001, 17:00

I like time stretch plug-ins like Chronotron and I especially can amuse myself hours with Nullsoft DSP Effects.

Excessus · 22nd November 2001, 18:15

DSP sucks when you try to use them on a techno or goa song.
The more bass you add the more faint it'll get. Some parts of the song is high when others are low (volume I mean).
Might be good on pop music but not on fast songs with bass already.

/Excessus

SuckMyPopadidge · 5th December 2001, 16:12

i dont really like dsp effects at all, they make the music sound to smooth.. the bass just doesnt sound the same, definetely not as loud.. i just use the good old nobbies on my ancient amp to adjust my bass/treb when i need to (lol its like 20 years old.. made by sansui, actually its a 'reciever'.. 4 channel 220 watt.. i got some cheapo speakers hooked up to it in a bridged configuration..)

Adil · 28th December 2001, 11:59

well, let me poke my nose in here.
1) Dee
2) Izotope ozone
3) Dfx
4) SRS wowthing
5) the others are crap.

Dee is the best cause its' the most customizable one. those who say it distorts the sound just don't know how to set it correctly.
Izotope has great sound, especially on poor sound system cause it's doesn't distort when bass gets too high.
Dfx is nice, but the bass booster is crap.
SRS has the best Bass booster of them all and a very special 3d sound rendering filter that makes you hear some sounds that are inaudible without it.
the others like realizer and the few hundred 3d dsp's including enhancer are just lame. sorry i didn't try the latest version of enhancers... the blue design of the version i got hurt my ears and the distorted bass made me cry. uuh wait a sec...

wait, here's my favorite dee configuration:
bass amp: 7
bass dyn: normal
bass frq: 170hz
mid amp: 7
treb amp: 7
treb dyn: normal
treb frq: 8khz
3d amp: 2
reverb: none

smb · 9th January 2002, 06:35

well, it is now january 2002 and the link supplied for dee doesn't seem to work for me.. could someone pls help me out??

thanks,
smb

smb · 9th January 2002, 06:43

nevermind.. found it in the google search.. sorry to trouble ya!

smb

17th July 2001, 16:23	#8
hello Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7	dee i can't find Dee in the plugins.... can u provide a link here?

18th July 2001, 13:15	#10
hello Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7	dee thanks! it's really cool

19th July 2001, 06:42	#12
hello Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7	dee wat r the best settings 4 dee? there r no presets available......

16th August 2001, 23:14	#16
wolfkhan Junior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lithgow, NSW, Australia Posts: 18	DEE is Great Just deleted my registered DFX 5.1 as this little proggy is a real gem

11th October 2001, 07:48	#18
hello Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7	best dsp?? While looking for new plugins i stumbled on iztope ozone....... Do you think it is good? or is dfx or dee better???

6th July 2001, 12:58	#1
Wiseguy Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6	What's the Best DSP Program you have used with WinAmp? I like DFX. IS there anything better? Also input Plug-in's. I like CDReader. Thanks,

7th July 2001, 03:27	#2
Sawg Guest Posts: n/a	I use Dee (it's like DFX but free) and Pace Maker. (I'll hopefully update this soon with the URLs when my downlods are done, I hate dial-up).

9th July 2001, 09:07	#4
Twilightseer Le Poison dans la Bouteille [Moderator] Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3ï¿½ porte ï¿½ droite Posts: 6,296	Also check out Enhancer http://www.winamp.com/plugins/detail...ponentId=58026

10th July 2001, 07:08	#6
Twilightseer Le Poison dans la Bouteille [Moderator] Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3ï¿½ porte ï¿½ droite Posts: 6,296	Dee has a very cool GUI and the effects are really good.

13th July 2001, 18:40	#7
klumy Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 383	Dee is cool Besides it is Freeware ;-)

18th July 2001, 07:35	#9
Twilightseer Le Poison dans la Bouteille [Moderator] Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3ï¿½ porte ï¿½ droite Posts: 6,296	Sure http://dee.mp3.ms

18th July 2001, 13:17	#11
Twilightseer Le Poison dans la Bouteille [Moderator] Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3ï¿½ porte ï¿½ droite Posts: 6,296	Enhancer is really cool as well. Check it out if you like good DSP plug-ins.

19th July 2001, 16:09	#14
Kalervo Manni Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Finland Posts: 241	Why we need DSP? I'm now listening to Winamp, it's playing mp3's decoded with LAME 3.89 at 192 kbps without any DSP plugins. I'm using Winamp 2.76 default in_mp3 plugin and it sounds damn good. You just need pair of good speakers and good amp.

20th July 2001, 07:20	#15
Twilightseer Le Poison dans la Bouteille [Moderator] Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3ï¿½ porte ï¿½ droite Posts: 6,296	Enhancer really improves the sound quality, imho. But if you don't need any DSP, cool

17th August 2001, 13:01	#17
hello Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7	You paid 4 it & you deleted it? thats a waste of $$$....

11th October 2001, 07:51	#19
Twilightseer Le Poison dans la Bouteille [Moderator] Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3ï¿½ porte ï¿½ droite Posts: 6,296	Ozone is impressive but it's shareware. You can also check out the new versions of Enhancer www.geocities.com/i_adryan

13th October 2001, 19:17	#20
BrianM Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 16	Ozone IMHO blows away DFX and Dee. The bass from Ozone in particular and just a hard to describe "fullness" that it adds. Put all three in a DSP stacker and you can switch between them quickly and hear the difference. There really is a big difference.

14th October 2001, 12:20	#21
hello Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7	well i think DFX sounds better, with the fidelity meter maxed out...... but ozone gives better bass. perhaps if i have the full version i can tinker it to sound better, but no way am i gonna splash out so much $ on such a small piece of programming! shareware sucks !

13th November 2001, 17:25	#22
hello Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7	Rankings How about ranking your top ten DSPs from 1 to 10? 1)DFX 2)Enhancer 3)Dee 4)Ozone...... & so on......

14th November 2001, 06:43	#23
Twilightseer Le Poison dans la Bouteille [Moderator] Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3ï¿½ porte ï¿½ droite Posts: 6,296	10 is a bit too much Mine would be 1) Enhancer 2) Ozone 3) DFX 4) Dee

14th November 2001, 14:16	#24
DoubleG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Woodridge, IL, USA Posts: 155	Dee is the best (for the simple reason that all the others you are comparing it with cost $) Call me cheap, but for free the difference in quality between dee & others is negli...umm neglagib... wait... the difference is - OH there isn't that big of a difference! Cute sayingless

14th November 2001, 16:33	#25
Firebrand Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 64	After some testing on my computer speakers (moderate quality) and some nice headphones... - The Winamp EQ sounds more distored than any of the DSP's mentioned yet, so it's out of the question for me - DFX is my favorite of the general DSP's in that it sounds least distorted while enhancing a lot of music...however many songs don't sound good with it and I don't want to have to toggle it all the time - Dee distorts the music too much, and the author is a little bass happy -- most of the default presets, including the default "optimal", almost shook my monitor off the table with its bass (however, if cost is an issue this is the one to use...$20 is a little crazy for a DSP after all) - SuperEQ is what I decided to use. A generic EQ setting that you like for most of your music will sound just find without the need for constant toggling. It doesn't seem to distort the music at all, however since you can't set a +db (a big reason it won't distort) the music will get too quiet if you set the -db too low (the author got carried away with how "powerful" it is....-95db is a little extreme The interface could also use some work, and is slightly buggy If you want them rated, 1) SuperEQ 2) DFX 3) Dee -) Enhancer and Ozone (didn't test them much because I wasn't impressed for one reason or another) X) Winamp EQ (last place, never realized how much it distorts)

22nd November 2001, 10:06	#26
Ozy osi Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Latinoamérica Posts: 20	I personally used HeadAmp DSP plug_in.dll (which is kind of hard to find) but it allows you to have really loud sound (and of course that with headphone, normal speakers in Pc's are quiete "cheap" and low quality of sound). You can even have the eq at 20 (max amp) and each band at 4.1 and the sound doesn't get that choppy. If you really want to try this out email and I will find a way to guide to the file.

22nd November 2001, 17:00	#27
Kaboon Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,485	I like time stretch plug-ins like Chronotron and I especially can amuse myself hours with Nullsoft DSP Effects. berkenpi.es

22nd November 2001, 18:15	#28
Excessus Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 28	DSP sucks when you try to use them on a techno or goa song. The more bass you add the more faint it'll get. Some parts of the song is high when others are low (volume I mean). Might be good on pop music but not on fast songs with bass already. /Excessus

5th December 2001, 16:12	#29
SuckMyPopadidge Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 39	dsp? i dont really like dsp effects at all, they make the music sound to smooth.. the bass just doesnt sound the same, definetely not as loud.. i just use the good old nobbies on my ancient amp to adjust my bass/treb when i need to (lol its like 20 years old.. made by sansui, actually its a 'reciever'.. 4 channel 220 watt.. i got some cheapo speakers hooked up to it in a bridged configuration..)

28th December 2001, 11:59	#30
Adil Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,377	well, let me poke my nose in here. 1) Dee 2) Izotope ozone 3) Dfx 4) SRS wowthing 5) the others are crap. Dee is the best cause its' the most customizable one. those who say it distorts the sound just don't know how to set it correctly. Izotope has great sound, especially on poor sound system cause it's doesn't distort when bass gets too high. Dfx is nice, but the bass booster is crap. SRS has the best Bass booster of them all and a very special 3d sound rendering filter that makes you hear some sounds that are inaudible without it. the others like realizer and the few hundred 3d dsp's including enhancer are just lame. sorry i didn't try the latest version of enhancers... the blue design of the version i got hurt my ears and the distorted bass made me cry. uuh wait a sec... wait, here's my favorite dee configuration: bass amp: 7 bass dyn: normal bass frq: 170hz mid amp: 7 treb amp: 7 treb dyn: normal treb frq: 8khz 3d amp: 2 reverb: none

9th January 2002, 06:35	#31
smb Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: somewhere deep Posts: 7	well, it is now january 2002 and the link supplied for dee doesn't seem to work for me.. could someone pls help me out?? thanks, smb

9th January 2002, 06:43	#32
smb Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: somewhere deep Posts: 7	nevermind.. found it in the google search.. sorry to trouble ya! smb

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