Beta2 skin

HawkMan · 26th November 2001, 19:05

This is a Skin I designed to specifically show off the cool transparecny fucntions of winamp 3, if course it'll only work if winamp 3 can handle a lot of layered transparency, well a little anyway

and yes I know I'm still now done with that other skin... but I just had to make the graphics at least for this one while I had it in my head

besides I'm the kinda guy that never do only one thing at a time

and this one doesn' have advanced rottation volume controls and stuff...

Now if I only had a Beta2 release so I could make a simple XML and test this thing and see how it looked... cough cough

lunarboy1 · 26th November 2001, 21:07

/me has WinME

bluekeydesign · 26th November 2001, 22:27

Hawkman, you get that thing coded and i will try it out on build 452 for ya.
Jon

HawkMan · 26th November 2001, 22:27

I'm working on redoing the Main GUI with Anti Aliasing on my selection "on" now .....

Anyway if I use "smooth" on a selection, the smoothed corners won't be anti aliased, is there any way to fix this?
and if anyoen tells me the AVS can't be "IN" the player I'll start torturing people untill there is a way

Lunar: Looks like a good time to upgrade to XP/2k doesn't it

+10 ego points....

I got all the graphics exported now thoguh, except for the main background but I shoudl have that done by tomorrow, then I'll put together a rough XML. Of course I can't show you any screenshots of it wokring since It'll be but ugly without transparency

Jon: I'll try and get a XML ready soon after I'm home tomorrow. Won't have wokrign Volume or Seekbars though, well I might be able to get the volume bar working..

bluekeydesign · 26th November 2001, 22:34

Hawk, even if its just the main body i can at least see if it is transparent.
Jon

Naamloos · 27th November 2001, 05:47

Yep it can be in the player...

use the forum tool called search

I know it is posted before...

mark e · 27th November 2001, 12:31

Need some work... And then it's super...

will · 27th November 2001, 13:18

Quote:

Originally posted by bluekeydesign
Hawkman, you get that thing coded and i will try it out on build 452 for ya.
Jon

why does everyone have #452 except me?

(PM me if you wanna donate

)

Naamloos · 27th November 2001, 16:31

/me hasnt got it either

bluekeydesign · 27th November 2001, 17:42

actually its #453 now.
Jon

I Am Trunks · 27th November 2001, 17:44

[u]what is 452???[u]

YtseJam · 27th November 2001, 17:46

It's the current build number of the not-for-public version of Wa3

That bolding part goes for bluekeydesign. GRRRR

--
Actually, it's the old build version, the new one is #453...

will · 27th November 2001, 18:14

(bluekey, how did you get on the list?)

My blobamp skin is compatable with full transparency.
someone with 452/3 could add a drawbackground="0" to make it look like this:

HawkMan · 27th November 2001, 22:10

Alpha version of the skin ready.

It's got the normal play keys working and the text title ticker.

btw what else do you have to add to get the VIS working on what exactly is the entry for the ticker text color

I guess I'll try my hand on the volume with Lucas volume script tomorrow.

hmmmmm Can't upload WAL's, just as well maybe

back to zip

.... too big.... better get out the gooldold ftp proggie then..

home.enter.vg/kkvilvan/LCDTrans.zip

I don't know how to include TFT fonts but it's in the zip anyway

HawkMan · 27th November 2001, 22:45

After ripping of Lucas skin and testign some, it's nto got a working volume bar too. tomorrow I'll have to see if I can use his skin to figure out how to make the Seekbar work like it as well

alpha .02 or somehting

home.enter.vg/kkvilvan/LCDTrans02.zip

bluekeydesign · 27th November 2001, 23:08

heres a screenshot of what it looks like on build 453.
Jon

Brennan · 28th November 2001, 01:02

Just add desktopalpha="1" to your layout directive and it works great.

--Brennan

QHOBBES · 28th November 2001, 03:06

looking good, cant wait till you get the AVS in there. I wish more
skins had that (like both the sonique skins). theres a problem with
the volume bar where if you keep on going up it loops back down to
zero. k33p ^ the g00d work

bluekeydesign · 28th November 2001, 04:29

ok here it is.
Jon

HawkMan · 28th November 2001, 05:29

oooooohhh... sexy........

damn admiring my own skin.........

danbee · 28th November 2001, 11:57

that looks damn nice. can't wait for alpha 2, i can think of loads of cool stuff to to with desktop transparency.

Naamloos · 28th November 2001, 12:32

Gimme gimme...

Is winamp taking now way more resources, with that desktopalpha="1" ???

GPH · 28th November 2001, 21:50

Where do we have to put the desktopalpha="1" ?

bluekeydesign · 28th November 2001, 22:37

put the desktopalpha code in your player-normal.xml right at the top where your <layout> tag is.
<layout id=whatever desktopalpha=1> or whatever.
Jon

GPH · 28th November 2001, 23:11

Quote:

Originally posted by bluekeydesign
put the desktopalpha code in your player-normal.xml right at the top where your <layout> tag is.
<layout id=whatever desktopalpha=1> or whatever.
Jon

thank you bluekeydesign

Also, the winamp 3 transparency looks very nice !

Good job Winamp team !

ApexAD500 · 29th November 2001, 03:55

First off I have to compliment you, great skin, can't wait to get the new beta and see it as it is meant to be shown. But I actually already have seen it, in my own good'ol build #448.

By Downloading the recenetly released Winamp 2 Plugin Manager and one of the already avaiable Winamp 2.x Transparency Plugin, I get what the below image shows.

If you want links to the Winamp 2 Plugin Manager, and the Winamp 2.x Transparency I will try to find them.

Or if you want me to take a screenshot with a nice right click so you can see this build #448, I can do that too, anything. Just let me know, I just wanted to write this quick, to get this info out.

[in an effort to avoid what I mentioned above, here you go]
http://members.telocity.com/~schweitn/wa2mgr/
&
http://apexad500.homestead.com/files/gen_trans.zip

(note, niether of the above files are made by me, and the only reason why the second one does nto direct you to the author is becuase there are quite a few of this type of plugin available, and I could not find the exact one I first got.) (Which by the way actually has problems with some windows in winamp3, which I don;t know is a result of the wa2 mgr plugin, or the transparent plugin)

I Am Trunks · 29th November 2001, 14:33

for those of you who want the beta 2 or the 453
check the Sticky FAQ in the "the development" forum

I Am Trunks · 29th November 2001, 14:53

of course ^ i mean "the discussion" in stead of "the development"

I Am Trunks · 30th November 2001, 15:45

is this skin gonna be finished or is it gonna stay this way

Francis · 1st December 2001, 17:53

Quote:

Originally posted by HawkMan
and if anyoen tells me the AVS can't be "IN" the player I'll start torturing people untill there is a way

You can put avs in the player (see Steve's ETA skin), but no desktopalpha layout can contain a component (blame microsoft for fucking up with children layered window support), and AVS is a component, so this will have to wait a little bit (probably next beta) for a few additions to AVS so you can use it in a desktopalpha'd layout.

Francis.

Plague · 1st December 2001, 18:37

Ah, ok, I was starting to wonder why all of the sudden, my ML and PL wouldn't stay in the drawer after I used desktopalpha on it.
In win98 though, it works but only because desktopalpha doesn't work in 98.

Thanx alot Microsoft for making such a great piece of OS that is buggy like hell!
*blaiming Microsoft*

[Edit]

oh oh oh, does it work in Linux then? since it's microsofts fault I mean...

Also, in the next beta, could you make it possible to make one or more of the components be NOT always on top, so that if one or more of them are in drawers, like in my skin, they won't slide in on top of the main window but underneath it instead... That would be great.

[/Edit]

HawkMan · 4th December 2001, 03:38

I don't think I will continue this skin as seen here, though if anyone wants to finish it I'll be happy to give him the PSD and everything.
But msyelf I'll probably finish the Wheel of Time skin, then I'll make an MK to version o this one that will be more aestethically(phew, long and probably misspelled word) pleasing and more functional. This skin was more aspur of the moment skin to make somethign that would look cool in transparent. It looks good at 50% size thoguh (if you scale all the graphics in Photoshop and re export everythign that is) and I had some good ideas for the Winsade wich probably will carry over to the MK2 version.

SuckMyPopadidge · 4th December 2001, 23:01

hey, the skin looks sweet, but i got a rather irrelevant question.. how did you get your taskbar to look like that where the middle is completely gone and stuff.. id be interested to know what program you used.. thx, btw, will that skin work in the beta 2 build or what? if not where can i get 453 or whatever?

jarsonic · 4th December 2001, 23:25

Yes, the skill will work in Beta 2. It will be transparent (as shown) if you have Windows 2000 or Windows XP (not 9x or ME).

- Jarsonic

SuckMyPopadidge · 4th December 2001, 23:55

im win2k all the way baby

bluekeydesign · 5th December 2001, 03:21

SuckMyPopadidge,
what screenshot are you talking about?
Mine? I use a shell called sharpE.
www.lowdimension.net

Jon

SuckMyPopadidge · 5th December 2001, 03:37

thanks

SuckMyPopadidge · 5th December 2001, 14:53

wow, thats cool and all, but its just to cumbersome for me, i bet it will be real cool when its finished, but its kinda not workin for me either, i get unhandled exceptions and transtext/tclock wont load because it cant 'attach' to explorer or some wierd error, overall its pretty cool though

26th November 2001, 21:07	#2
lunarboy1 Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Somewhere, USA Posts: 2,233	/me has WinME www.bluni.com Ben Folds Lyrics Database

26th November 2001, 22:27	#3
bluekeydesign Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 407	Hawkman, you get that thing coded and i will try it out on build 452 for ya. Jon Why Llamas? Why not Aardvarks??

26th November 2001, 22:34	#5
bluekeydesign Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 407	Hawk, even if its just the main body i can at least see if it is transparent. Jon Why Llamas? Why not Aardvarks??

27th November 2001, 12:31	#7
mark e Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,117	WoW... Need some work... And then it's super...

27th November 2001, 17:42	#10
bluekeydesign Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 407	actually its #453 now. Jon Why Llamas? Why not Aardvarks??

26th November 2001, 22:27	#4
HawkMan Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 49	I'm working on redoing the Main GUI with Anti Aliasing on my selection "on" now ..... Anyway if I use "smooth" on a selection, the smoothed corners won't be anti aliased, is there any way to fix this? and if anyoen tells me the AVS can't be "IN" the player I'll start torturing people untill there is a way Lunar: Looks like a good time to upgrade to XP/2k doesn't it +10 ego points.... I got all the graphics exported now thoguh, except for the main background but I shoudl have that done by tomorrow, then I'll put together a rough XML. Of course I can't show you any screenshots of it wokring since It'll be but ugly without transparency Jon: I'll try and get a XML ready soon after I'm home tomorrow. Won't have wokrign Volume or Seekbars though, well I might be able to get the volume bar working..

27th November 2001, 05:47	#6
Naamloos Forum King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: irc.tehflap.org/******* Posts: 3,085	Yep it can be in the player... use the forum tool called search I know it is posted before...

27th November 2001, 16:31	#9
Naamloos Forum King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: irc.tehflap.org/******* Posts: 3,085	/me hasnt got it either

27th November 2001, 17:44	#11
I Am Trunks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 44	??? [u]what is 452???[u]

27th November 2001, 17:46	#12
YtseJam Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Israel Posts: 2,399	It's the current build number of the not-for-public version of Wa3 That bolding part goes for bluekeydesign. GRRRR -- Actually, it's the old build version, the new one is #453...

27th November 2001, 22:10	#14
HawkMan Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 49	Alpha version of the skin ready. It's got the normal play keys working and the text title ticker. btw what else do you have to add to get the VIS working on what exactly is the entry for the ticker text color I guess I'll try my hand on the volume with Lucas volume script tomorrow. hmmmmm Can't upload WAL's, just as well maybe back to zip .... too big.... better get out the gooldold ftp proggie then.. home.enter.vg/kkvilvan/LCDTrans.zip I don't know how to include TFT fonts but it's in the zip anyway

27th November 2001, 22:45	#15
HawkMan Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 49	After ripping of Lucas skin and testign some, it's nto got a working volume bar too. tomorrow I'll have to see if I can use his skin to figure out how to make the Seekbar work like it as well alpha .02 or somehting home.enter.vg/kkvilvan/LCDTrans02.zip

28th November 2001, 01:02	#17
Brennan Monkey Hump Master Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 782	Just add desktopalpha="1" to your layout directive and it works great. --Brennan

28th November 2001, 03:06	#18
QHOBBES Banned Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: I H8 Mods Posts: 1,405	looking good, cant wait till you get the AVS in there. I wish more skins had that (like both the sonique skins). theres a problem with the volume bar where if you keep on going up it loops back down to zero. k33p ^ the g00d work

28th November 2001, 05:29	#20
HawkMan Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 49	oooooohhh... sexy........ damn admiring my own skin.........

28th November 2001, 11:57	#21
danbee Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 320	that looks damn nice. can't wait for alpha 2, i can think of loads of cool stuff to to with desktop transparency. :: danbee :: www.danbee.co.uk :: "old programmers never die. they just terminate and stay resident."

28th November 2001, 12:32	#22
Naamloos Forum King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: irc.tehflap.org/******* Posts: 3,085	Gimme gimme... Is winamp taking now way more resources, with that desktopalpha="1" ???

28th November 2001, 21:50	#23
GPH Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: St-Bruno, Québec Posts: 31	Where do we have to put the desktopalpha="1" ?

28th November 2001, 22:37	#24
bluekeydesign Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 407	put the desktopalpha code in your player-normal.xml right at the top where your <layout> tag is. <layout id=whatever desktopalpha=1> or whatever. Jon Why Llamas? Why not Aardvarks??

29th November 2001, 14:33	#27
I Am Trunks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 44	for those of you who want the beta 2 or the 453 check the Sticky FAQ in the "the development" forum

29th November 2001, 14:53	#28
I Am Trunks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 44	of course ^ i mean "the discussion" in stead of "the development"

30th November 2001, 15:45	#29
I Am Trunks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 44	is this skin gonna be finished or is it gonna stay this way

1st December 2001, 18:37	#31
Plague f(caffeine){ return wasabi; } (Forum King) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,962	Ah, ok, I was starting to wonder why all of the sudden, my ML and PL wouldn't stay in the drawer after I used desktopalpha on it. In win98 though, it works but only because desktopalpha doesn't work in 98. Thanx alot Microsoft for making such a great piece of OS that is buggy like hell! blaiming Microsoft [Edit] oh oh oh, does it work in Linux then? since it's microsofts fault I mean... Also, in the next beta, could you make it possible to make one or more of the components be NOT always on top, so that if one or more of them are in drawers, like in my skin, they won't slide in on top of the main window but underneath it instead... That would be great. [/Edit]

4th December 2001, 03:38	#32
HawkMan Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 49	I don't think I will continue this skin as seen here, though if anyone wants to finish it I'll be happy to give him the PSD and everything. But msyelf I'll probably finish the Wheel of Time skin, then I'll make an MK to version o this one that will be more aestethically(phew, long and probably misspelled word) pleasing and more functional. This skin was more aspur of the moment skin to make somethign that would look cool in transparent. It looks good at 50% size thoguh (if you scale all the graphics in Photoshop and re export everythign that is) and I had some good ideas for the Winsade wich probably will carry over to the MK2 version.

4th December 2001, 23:01	#33
SuckMyPopadidge Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 39	hehe... hey, the skin looks sweet, but i got a rather irrelevant question.. how did you get your taskbar to look like that where the middle is completely gone and stuff.. id be interested to know what program you used.. thx, btw, will that skin work in the beta 2 build or what? if not where can i get 453 or whatever?

4th December 2001, 23:25	#34
jarsonic Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 1,112	Yes, the skill will work in Beta 2. It will be transparent (as shown) if you have Windows 2000 or Windows XP (not 9x or ME). - Jarsonic

4th December 2001, 23:55	#35
SuckMyPopadidge Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 39	im win2k all the way baby

5th December 2001, 03:21	#36
bluekeydesign Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 407	SuckMyPopadidge, what screenshot are you talking about? Mine? I use a shell called sharpE. www.lowdimension.net Jon Why Llamas? Why not Aardvarks??

5th December 2001, 03:37	#37
SuckMyPopadidge Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 39	thanks

5th December 2001, 14:53	#38
SuckMyPopadidge Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 39	sharpE wow, thats cool and all, but its just to cumbersome for me, i bet it will be real cool when its finished, but its kinda not workin for me either, i get unhandled exceptions and transtext/tclock wont load because it cant 'attach' to explorer or some wierd error, overall its pretty cool though

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