Your favorite quote?

[Xerxes]

Or in painting...

[rm']

Bah! Love shows itself visually very well, thus, very frequently.

[nature spirit]

Xerxes.. can we have more light on this painting? (who.. what .. where.. when)

and RM is right because Suleiman died in his tent when he was sieging a castle on the Austrian boundaries.. (as to the western france and switzerland, I dont really think so..) by then he had come through balcan, bulgaria, and the neighbouring countries.. whereas the time spain was dominated by Arabs was looooooong before that..

still.. what about the hat?

[Bilbo Baggins]

Sulieman had a quite Magnificent Hat

The Moors were teh conquerors of much of Spain, although during the reign of Suleiman, they had been pushed out during teh last Reconquista of 1482-1492, which was led by Ferdinand of Aragon, and Isabella of Castile ("Spain" did not exist till the reign of Philip III).

I know that Alexander the Great still features in European histroy,even though his main empire was in Asia, but my point was that Suleimans empire was predominantly in Asia, but he features in European because of his conquests into Hungary and Eastern Europe. WE also study him as a side to Charles V, who was Holy Roman Emporer at the time (as well as holding "Spain", the Netherlands, Naples and the New World), and so came into conflict on many occaisions with the Turks.

[jns]

Parker's Law:
Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone.



Ohhh... I just LOVE /usr/games/fortune !

[SSJ4 Gogitta]

It's a good idea to keep y our words soft and sweet because you never know when you'll have to eat them.

Live every day as if it were your last, because one these days you'll be right!

It's what you learn after you know it that really counts.

You'll never get rid of a bad temper by losing it!

If at first you dont succeed... you're about normal.

Experience is something you never have untill just after you need it.

Life is what happens to you while you're busy making future plans.

When you're in deep water, it's a good idea to keep your mouth shut!

These days, the only time politicians are telling the truth is when they call each other a liar.

It's no wonder politicians don't listen to their conscience. They don't want to take advice from a total stranger.

The reason politicians are so busy is that they spend half their time passing laws and the other half helping their fridns get around them.

The ups and downs of the economy are the result of having elected too many yo-yos!

Isn't it amazing how political candidated can give you all their good points and qualifications in a thirty-second TV commercial?

Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for and politicians find out what people will fall for.

Political campaign speeches are like steer hornes: a point here, a point there... and a lot of bull in between!

Have you ever noticed that political promises are usually in one year and out the other?

It's astonishing how politicians never say anything, yet always insist they're being misquoted.

America is the land that faught for freedon and then begain passing laws to get rid of it.

War is what happens when arms are used instead of heads!

Too mant politicians who wave the flag want to waive what it stands for.

Ever notice how mant government officials make their raises effective long befire they ever are?

Remember the good old days, when the government lived within its income and without most of yours?

Ever notice that to entertain some people all you have to do is listen?

Some minds are like concrete... all mixed up and permanently set.

It's not just the ups and downs that make life difficult, its the jerks.

The reason most people are lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

If most people said what's on their minds, they'd be speechless.

How is it that people looking for a helping hand tend to overlook the one at the end of their arm?

You never know how many friends you have untill you own a summer place!

Vision is what some people claim they have when they find that they've guessed correctly.

Most of us dont know exactaly what we want, but we're pretty sure we don't have it.

An arguement is two people trying to get the last word in first.

There was a time when a preacher's Little Black Book was a Bible!

When most people put in their two cents' worth, they are not overcharging.

Ever notice how people say, "Thats the way the ball bounces" are usually the one who dropped it?

People with bad coughs should go to the doctors instead of theaters.

Even the man who has everything is envious of the man who has two of everything.

Germs attack people where they're weakest -- which is why there are so many head colds.

A masochist is one who paints himself into a corner and then applies a second coat.

Too often, people who want to offer sound advice give us more sound than advice.

Good hospitality is making your guests feel at home, even when you wish they were!

Modesty is the art of drawing attention to whatever it is you're being humble about.

Most people don't act stupid -- it's the real thing!

When you give back all your ill-gotten gains, you're a reformed crook. When you keep most of the loot and only give back a small part of it, you're a philanthropist.

It's called take-home pay because there's nowhere else you can go with it!

Misers are tough to live with, but they make terrific ancestors!

Living on a budget is the same as living beyond your means, except that now you have a record of it.

Most people get into financial difficulty when they don't act their wage.

Today, money still talks. Trouble is you have to increase the volume a lot!

Ever notice how random chance always picks you for jury duty, but never to win the lottery?

The dollar will never fall as low as what some people will do to get it!

When money talks, nobody criticizes its accent!

Why is it that things are always greener in the other guy's wallet?

Your money and your vacation never seem to run out at the same time.

Sometimes, the best scheme for doubling your money is to fold it in half and stuff it back in your wallet.

These days, most people's bank accounts need month-to-month resuscitation!

Astronomers point out that the universe is racing away from the Earth at 15,000 miles per second. Can you blame it?

Today's "non-conformists" are getting harder and harder to tell apart.

The trouble with modern appartments is: the walls are too thin when you try to sleep, and too thick when you try to listen.

Blessed are the censors, for they shall inhibit the Earth.

A supermarket is where you spend half an hour hunting for instant coffee!

You know the world's in trouble when it takes 2,000 laws just to enforce the Ten Commandments!

The suburbs are where they cut down all the trees and name the streets after them.

Only in America coukd a letter that offers a prize of ten million dollars be reguarded as junk mail.

Nuclear energy may be the one thing that will finally prove to us that all men are cremated equal.

The advantage of compact cars is that you can get twice as many of them into traffic jams.

The trouble with most neighborhoods is that there are too many hoods in them, and not enough neighbors.

We're living in an age when lemonade is made with artifical ingredients and furniture polis is made with real lemons.

A man will go out with a woman if she's really different from other women... the difference being she'll go out with him.

Notice how women who claim that all men are alike seldom have trouble spotting the difference between you and Tom Cruise?

The first thing a man notices about a woman... depends on which way she's going!

A wedding ring is like a tourniquet -- it cuts off your circulation!

A kiss is valid proof that two heads are better than one.

Some people are like blisters: they show up right after the work is done.

The big guns in buisness are thoes who haven't as yet been fired!

Most people are too lazy to open the door when opportunity knocks.

Before arguing with your boss, it bay be well to look at both sides: their side... and the outside.

A born executive is someone whose fater owns the business.

An employer is someone who's late when you're eary, and early when you're late.

A successful person is a clod like you who worked harder.

A lawyer is someone who writes an eighty-page document and calls it a brief.

The early bird gets the worm... but look what happens to the early worm!

The problem with the ladder of success is that by the time you've climed it, you're considered over the hill!

It's really amaxing how unimportant your job is when you ask for a raise... and how important it is when you want a day off!

As you get older, work seems a lot less fun, and fun seems a lot more work!

Raising childen is like taking pictures: you never know how they'll come out!

Marriage is like drugs to some people: they keep taking one kind of dope after another.

A family vacation is when you go away with people you need to get away from.

Adam was lucky! He never had to listen to Eve talk about other men she could have married.

Adolescence is that period in a child's life when parents become most difficult!

Marrige is like a bath: once you're into it and you're used to it, it's not so hot.


~Alfred E. Neuman

The whole friggin "Half Wit and Wisdom" book... typed it all by myself...

::hands fall off::

[Curi0us_George]

Damn you straight to hell.

[Xerxes]

Originally posted by nature spirit
Xerxes.. can we have more light on this painting? (who.. what .. where.. when)

"Birthday" by Marc Chagall, 1915

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/C/chagall.html

[SSJ4 Gogitta]

Originally posted by Curi0us_George
Damn you straight to hell.

Uhhh...

[fwgx]

I like the quote in Craig F's sig

"The liver is evil and must be punished"

[nature spirit]

The Arabs who conquered northern Africa and intermingled with the Berbers there, are in fact the people who conquered the so-called spain in the 8th centuray by Tarek ibn Ziad, and those invasions were in command of the Umayyad rule that was in what is called now Damascus. and they also assigned emirs to rule spain under the Caliphate banner... till when AbdullRahman III called himself Caliph and Cordoba, his capital, was the most splendid city in Western Europe. but later, this reign was divided into his successors and formed weak and spattered dynasties that were easy to reconquer by the Europeans..
but by the time the Turks took on the eastern empire, there was nothing really important in the hands of muslims in spain, and they were virtually wiped out the Iberian peninsula..

[Bilbo Baggins]

The Turks were not so bothered about the African lands. They were more bothered about placeslike constantinople. Lots of good meaty stories come from that Battle. One of the best was the 3 day riot of pillage, rape and murder that the Turks could go on after the battle (under their Islamic laws). EVERYONE who could get raped was raped. The streets were sticky with the blood of the Christians of Constantinople. The Emperor Constantine was heroic in that he charged into battle himself, weilding his Scimitar. Although he was never seen alive again, he was later found, and his head sent around the courts of Europe to act as a warning. I love the Ottomans

[Xerxes]

Well keep in mind that Constantinople lasted for nearly 3000 years- the only way the Ottomans got through the famous 3 layer fortifications of the city was with artillery.

The Empereror Constantine you refer too was like XII or something- not the famous one.

[Bilbo Baggins]

Yeah, but it was still a stirring story.

The way the Ottomans got past the Christian fire ships was something else. They docked a few miles away from the solid barrier of fire that the christians had made, and dragged their fleet on wooden rollers for 20 miles through their territory on the south of the Bosphorous, and then they dropped their ships back in the water and attacked, while their cannon and seige weaponry threw everything across the water.

The christians continually prayed to God for their salvation, but they gave up hope when the moon, which should have been full, actually took on the shape of a cresent that was red. This was the Ottoman emblem, and was caused as a result of a partial lunar eclipse and the dust from a powerful volcanic eruption somewhere else on the planet causing the light to take on a red tinge.

I love the Ottomans. they were so cool

[rm']

I hate the Ottomans. They made people the world over almost as mad as the British did.

[Bilbo Baggins]

That they did, but they did it in fantastic hats.

[ElChevelle]

Favorite Quote?

FUCK YOU!
There's never been a more offensive and more often used quote.

[fwgx]

I saw a T-shirt that said:

"fuck you
you fucking
fuck"

that was pretty funny

[baafie]

"From all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most."

[stttafffy]

what was that homer simpson quote that went something like,
'oh, i gotta go, my damn weiner kids are listening'

i like that one and this one, from the movie 'the rock'
'ill take pleasure in guttin' you, boy'

[No Name]

In Germany they cane first for the Communists, and i didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and i didn't speak up becaise i wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and i didn't speak up because i wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and i didn't speak up because i was a Protestant. Then they came for me and by that time noone was left to speak up. - Martin Niemoeller.

[ertmann|CPH]

- There are are two things who are infinate; The Universe and Human stupity, i'm not sure about the former
Albert Einstein (saw that on someones sig)

- You can not shake hands with clenched fists
Indira Gandhi

- Nothing has been sweped under the carpet
Poul Sclütter, Fmr. Danish Prime Minster - just before he was overthrown by a scandal

- You yourself must be the change you want too see in the world
Mahatma Gandhi

- Succes have made many men Fiascos
Cindy Adams

- You can choose not to act, but you can't choose not to know
Bill Clinton (on the worlds inequalities)

- Non of you are belivers, if you do not wish for your neighbour, what you wish for yourself
Islam

- If you dont change your direction, you will end up where you are heading at
Some darn wise Chinaman

- A common mistake that people make when trying to design smething completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools
Douglas Adams (saw that on someones sig too)

Sorry for the bad translations

- Stefan

[deathazre]

I can beat "fuck you"

try any russian's favorite curse: "Yob tvoyu mat"

translation: fuck your mother

[nature spirit]

Very interesting quote No Name. thx

[nature spirit]

Nice ones Sertman.. (a little spellcheck wouldnt harm though)

and by the way "- Non of you are belivers, if you do not wish for your neighbour, what you wish for yourself Islam" it is true that this concept figured in Islam teachings, but it has been blatantly copied from what Jesus has already said more than 630 years ago.. (in the meaning of "treat ppl the way you want to be treated..")

[nature spirit]

well Bilbo.. I wouldnt expect from the Turks otherwise. they were the worst barbarian tribes that sucked the neighboring civilizations and cultures and built their own empire upon. even in their golden era, they were displaying in fact not their own civilization but the one of the ppl they have crushed. and if you analyse why the countries in the Middle east and northern Africa are retarded although they have the means to effectively progress, you can trace it back to 400 years of bloody and savage Ottoman rule.

[ertmann|CPH]

In think you missed my point, what i meant by this quote was to show
that islam isn't an evil religion

here are some more quotes for you:

What you find discusting, you must not do to your neighbour
- the jews

You must not hurt anyone in a way that would hurt yourself
- Buddhism

We must treat others, as we wish, they should treat us
- Konfucianism

Non of you are belivers, if you do not wish for your neighbour, what you wish for yourself
- Islam

You must do to others, what you wish they should do to you
- Chistianity

Again - sorry for the translations, and i cant run a spellcheck
as i only have a danish one

[nature spirit]

Im so sorry.. I never meant to say Islam is an evil religion in anyway. Just that some of its teachings (including that one) were simply copied or adapted.

[ertmann|CPH]

i never thought you did - it was just to point out that it is a universal truth - and no one relgion can patent it

When you think about it Islam, Jewry and Christianity is realy the same religion with some minor differences - its odd that those small diffrences can be the cause of wars - Hell, Jesus even apear in the Koran.

Damn it's good that im not religious

[rm']

Of course. That's the premise behind it. Islam is a reformation of Christianity which is a reformation of Judaism.

[No Name]

Originally posted by nature spirit
Very interesting quote No Name. thx

your welcome. I think its worth reading.

[nature spirit]

Hum.. I didnt wanna get in theological debate and it's not about being religious or not, for this is also a part of history and humanities. the three religions are not in anyway the same. Jews were waiting for the Messiah. When Jesus came, most of them didnt accept him because they were waiting for an earthly king, which they didnt find in the humble presence of Jesus, who was preaching spiritualities. That's why when they nailed him, they set themselves aside from everything he brought, and they are still waiting for their own Messiah, whereas for those who followed him, are now called 'christians'. so basically, Jesus didnt 'reform' Judaism, it was all meant to smoothly continue the 'master plan', and Judaism for Christians is just an early phase of it. As for Jews, Jesus is a crook.

However, Islam is something completely different. It came 6 centuries later to say that Christianity for instance is not what it should be, and the bible is distorted, etc.. it's true that Jesus is mentioned in Quoran, which could be chronologically logical, but it's never vice-versa. that's one.. second, the teachings are never the same. Islam preaches a very materialistic heaven. imagine that Allah promised the believers (mind you he was addressing mainly the males) he promised them girls that have no monthly periods! and real rivers of milk and honey.. also, a very important point is why God created humans. in Islam, he did so so they would worship him. in Christianity God created humans because of the infinite love he IS so he wanted to share existence with them. and one more final point, (sorry for the length of the message) you can judge it all by the way religions were spread. Christians bore 4 centuries of persecutions and extermination before they were granted the freedom to practice and preach. (when Costantine adopted it as official religion for the Holy Roman Empire) they had nothing but the words they carried to every place they traveled. As to Islam, it was litteraly spread over the blood dripping from their swords.. the prophete himself used to lead the fighters in the early days. so you be the judge.

[rm']

I didn't say that they were continuations of one another, I said they were reformations. Case in point, how angry Jeebus got at seeing moneychangers in the temple, and how often the Quran makes it clear that God is singular, and that there is no Trinity.

[fwgx]

Without religion the world would be a better place. You would still have people believing in the the 10 commandments (though not know as the 10 commandments) and you wouldn't have the wars, hatred and bloodshed we have due to religion.

[No Name]

Originally posted by Phily Baby
Without religion the world would be a better place. You would still have people believing in the the 10 commandments (though not know as the 10 commandments) and you wouldn't have the wars, hatred and bloodshed we have due to religion.

where do we draw the boundaries of morales, good v bad and etiquitte.

that's like blaming all drunk related deaths on the orginal maker of alchohol.

blame science for the drugs that are being made.

blame plato and aristotle for founding the their accomplishment in society.

wrongful and irrevalant blame.

[nature spirit]

I know RM you didnt say that. but my point was that they were not even reformations. well for each his own.. I was just talking objectively.

btw, the deep theology of trinity, if well understood, has the endresult of one and unique God.. something Islam couldnt understand.

[nature spirit]

well said NoName.. you took the words out of my mouth. It's never the religion in the origion of war and hatred. It's people who get blinded by fanatism that would massacre their own religion while they think they are fighting for it.

[Huehuetenango]

but doesn't religion give a reason for someone who otherwise not be moral to be moral?
some people, if not given incentive, will not think twice about their actions, the promise of reward for good behaviour on earth gives them this incentive

[Merlin]

"Fechez la Vasche" - Monty Python... Holy Grail.

"There's two ways to do things around here: My way, or the wrong way" - Dale Earnhardt

"If a man can lose everything he has, and never speak a word of his loss, then his is the world and everything within it" - Possibly Rudyard Kipling

[Huehuetenango]

"smart people outsmart each other and then themselves" -system of a down

"if i hadn't been going out w/ thomas when i first met you i would have gone out w/ you" -my best female friend one day during one of our conversations gotta be the quote that is the opposite of favourite (favourite implying GOOD) this is my most memorable quote, i guess

and finally, "the only true wisdom is knowing taht you know nothing"