To all members : please read !

Twilightseer · 22nd January 2002, 12:15

Hello to all members,

As you probably already know, the forums are going through a major crisis at the moment. Lots of anger and frustration (justified most of the time) have spilled over the boards, causing some of the mods to leave and globally leading to an utterly obnoxious atmosphere.
I myself am extremely angry at many things regarding the management of these forums. However, I've decided to stay aboard to try to improve things. You have (almost) all been extremely supportive and patient and knowing that you're here to back us up is the best incentive to continue we could possibly have.
Let's face it: it may be quite long until these boards are restored to what they once were but I think it's worth trying

Since you're here for us, then we're here for you. You guys deserve it.

Have a nice day.

cmisker · 22nd January 2002, 12:18

I love mods like you!

. - .... .- -. .... · 22nd January 2002, 12:22

Can't really improve on or add to Seer's post - he has said everything that us mods want to say to the members. Thanks for all your support guys - it's much appreciated at the present time.

Bop · 22nd January 2002, 12:23

Thanks Twilightseer.

weedsatan · 22nd January 2002, 12:24

that would be great. having the forums again like in the old days..

Too fulfill this dream I'll help whereever I can. even though I am not the most supportive poster..
But this is worth it..

Kudos to you Seer.. And RM and Nemesis and all those thousands of members that make a difference..

Bizznatch · 22nd January 2002, 12:30

A great forum begins with its members, without us there wouldnt be a winamp forum. Let's all pitch in and make this place as great as it used to.

Even though we can never be what we used to, great members from the past such as Chev, randman, Jayn, and phish won't be with us anymore. The great mods from the past such as SexyLoserKitten and sgtfuzzbubble99 arent around to post like they used to anymore, we still have the future.

Lets make it a good one.

Xerxes · 22nd January 2002, 12:36

Viva la Revalucion!

I just felt like saying that

Mr Jones · 22nd January 2002, 12:41

Drinks are on me, free beer and soda all around, lost the soda pic, but y'all smart as whips, use your imaginations

Pull up a stool, pull up a brew and chill.........

Bilbo Baggins · 22nd January 2002, 13:16

I will just sit here by my tree and think of things to write. I will look at the mountains that we all have to cross before this journey is over.

Naamloos · 22nd January 2002, 13:22

I hope I can help you all a hand...

Indyrod · 22nd January 2002, 13:27

I've been around the Winamp forums about as long as anyone, WAY before this current forum software. It was just red on black back then, and not that many members. The purpose of the forum then, and the early stages of THIS forum was to have a place to discuss Winamp specifically, and any problems users were having. For that purpose, the forums were great, and helped all Winamp users learn and discuss issues regarding MP3 and other audio formats.

I quit posting much at this new forum over the past six or seven months, because mainly it sucks. It's just a bunch of whinny kids talking about bullshit crap that serious Winamp users could give a shit about. You want somebody to cry to, go to your preacher. The overall intelligence of this forum has taken a gigantic dive downwards, and it just doesn't interest me, except the pure discussions of Winamp and other areas of computer audio. This forum will probably NEVER return to the good old dayz, because there are many other audio forums that are better. For a boring soap opera, for kids to display their moron behavior, this is the place to be. But for us other serious longtimers, it's dumb, stupid, and I left the playground a long long time ago.

eleet-2k2 · 22nd January 2002, 13:31

I'm glad there are mods like you guys who care about what is going on in teh forums!

John M · 22nd January 2002, 13:35

props to the mods. Lord knows i've had my differences with some of em, but i respect em the same for all they do for these forums.

rm' · 22nd January 2002, 13:35

I don't know if any one has seen the second last season finale of Mad About You. Anyhow, the theme was that even though love is painful, and hard to maintain, it's too good to give up trying. So in the words of papadoc, keep on truckin'!

Merlin · 22nd January 2002, 14:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Jones

Looks like you stock Foster's, Kronenbourg and John Smith's. I'll have a pint of 1664, ta...

[edit] and Blackthorn, Robinson's Old Tom (that stuff is nasty), Theakston's(I think) and two Mystery Ales whose logos I don't recognise[/edit]

binary hero · 22nd January 2002, 15:38

You should do whatever is necissary. From what i heard (from chev), things are pretty dire. You should stand up for what you believe in. I am more than willing to help also.

Quote:

united we stand, divided we fall

I back all of you all of the way. I have utmost respect for all of you.

Jon Deaux · 22nd January 2002, 16:08

"On my honor as a Winamp fan,
I shall do my best not to cause,
hate, discontent, or starvation in
third world countries.
I shall not participate in
terrorism, or wars against
such, unless the forums are attacked.
I shall hold high the examples of those users of old,
though their names are unknown to me.
Goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life.
And when I finaly get through doing that,
I shall dwell in the house of the dead forever."
Or words to that effect.

golferboy32531 · 22nd January 2002, 20:17

WE NEED MISSYOB!!!

Bilbo Baggins · 22nd January 2002, 20:30

Quote:

Originally posted by MerlinTheWizard

Looks like you stock Foster's, Kronenbourg and John Smith's. I'll have a pint of 1664, ta...

[edit] and Blackthorn, Robinson's Old Tom (that stuff is nasty), Theakston's(I think) and two Mystery Ales whose logos I don't recognise[/edit]

I bow down and worship your superiour beer mastery!

dylman · 22nd January 2002, 20:43

Quote:

and two Mystery Ales whose logos I don't recognise

McEwans's Export (?) and Becks, I think...

papadoc · 22nd January 2002, 22:03

I believe that I have 2 choices here.

One: is to say to hell with it and run for the hills.
I've felt this way many times before here,
and almost did that one time before.
But I thought about it for a few days.
Had I got to those hills, I'm sure I would only look back
to see what I left behind, and wonder.
Two: would be to stand and fight for what I love and believe in.
However and whatever it takes.

The second choice is by far the hardest.
Sometimes I win, sometimes I loose, but at least I'm fighting.
I'd rather go down fighting knowing I tried.
Kinda like the way I choose to live my life.
So this is what I choose.

I don't fault anyone who decides to leave.
I understand that need completely.
I hope that if you decide to come back, you'll find
us still here fighting the good fight,
to make this place the best it can be in all areas.

So onward to face the demons and the dragons
that plague us, with the guidance of our fearless
leaders, whose own house we must fight to get in order, so they
can fight with us.

darkraider · 22nd January 2002, 23:18

Quote:

Originally posted by golferboy32531
WE NEED MISSYOB!!!

Yeah, where is she? We little guys are in but we need a mom on these forums.

n_ick2000 · 22nd January 2002, 23:33

Before Missyob left, she said she was doing here year-end taxes. That was a little while ago.

DJ ANTarctic · 23rd January 2002, 00:37

wasnt here for da good old days - but im willing to help bring it back

Sasoyr · 23rd January 2002, 01:37

I was [edit]here for the good ol' days[/edit], and I'm sorry for making it worse.

No it wasn't a post pumper and no it wasn't an attention need. I was really frustrated with whats been going on and with me popping pills today (yes I was) I kinda let it all go. You can set my post count to zero if you like. I don't care. I just would like to stay a part of this community and help the forums.

I suggest making a "Internal Repairs" Forum. Here we would (NOT RELEASE ANGER) have discussions on how this community can be improved. We would have long chats and change the bad peoples' minds and make them good people. You might wanna try doing that with me. I just was so angry and I'm sorry guys. I've been going under the alias "Aeiri" on the IRC Channel (#*******) and I think I might change my name here to that too.

I was here for one week of the good ol' days. Back in the summer. Man I wish we could all get that back. We were all happy. It might be with what the world's state is in today. USA and Afghanistan haven't been more angrier at each other. I see that all around us in life too. Everyone thinks we are pulling together, but we are just pushing each other way apart. Winamp | Forums ' Economy has pushed into a deeper reccession than USA is in, lets all pitch in and try to pull our injured friend out.

Yet again I am sorry if I hurt any of your feelings friends (if I haven't changed you into enemies yet), and I'd like to help people who are having a hard time, because I know how you feel. I'll try to keep my cool for now on, but if you guys want me to pack up and go, I'll do so. I won't come back again if you wish this, but I sure hope that I haven't gone to that extreme.

With Regards and Apologies, Under aliases Ryosas, Aeiri, Sasoyr, Arjj, GeorgeCowerdlyLion, Gingerly, and vqB,

- Brad Cable

rm' · 23rd January 2002, 01:46

Everyone deserves a second chance.

Sasoyr · 23rd January 2002, 01:48

Thank you.

I enjoy using these forums and I have been PM'ed by a couple of people that I will be missed. No names directed around. And I have got PM'ed that I should goto hell, so.....

Anyway....

I'm signing up for Aeiri guys.

Rovastar · 23rd January 2002, 01:58

I don't think I will ever understand these general discussion forums.

After an hour it is all back to normal from

Flame
Flame
Flame
Flame
Flame
Flame
Flame
Flame
Flame
Flame
Flame
Flame
.

to sorry

Think I will stick to the winamp forums that I understand.

Rovastar

Aeiri · 23rd January 2002, 02:00

Heheh......

Anyway, can I have my IP unbanned? This computer has a grunge on me....

Rovastar · 23rd January 2002, 02:10

The funniest thing is people will not have a clue what I am taking about with the
Flame
Flame
Flame
Flame thing is the user and all their posts were deleted.

Well I guess you just had to be there.

Well I did try to intergrate more with the rest of the Winamp community of the past 24 hours but it has been like one bad trip.

Back to my MilkDrop hole.

Rovastar

will · 23rd January 2002, 08:51

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Jones

Drinks are on me, free beer and soda all around, lost the soda pic, but y'all smart as whips, use your imaginations

Pull up a stool, pull up a brew and chill.........

mines a pint of smiths

fwgx · 23rd January 2002, 10:45

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Jones

I'll start now and have a pint of everything then I can go out and get battered tonight.

BlurPak2k1 · 23rd January 2002, 19:24

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Jones

Drinks are on me, free beer and soda all around, lost the soda pic, but y'all smart as whips, use your imaginations

Pull up a stool, pull up a brew and chill.........

I'll have whatever that gentleman's havin' on the floor....

iomegajaz · 23rd January 2002, 21:58

This one's being unstuck and left on GD. Let the healing begin.

-jaz

papadoc · 23rd January 2002, 22:08

iomegajaz...I think you did the right thing.
All that could be said by members was said.
Now it's up to the mods, Steve, and Sawg to sort it out.
We as members should trust in them to come up with
the right decisions for our forum,
and trust that they keep us informed.
I do.
So now we should...

...Keep on Truckin

Bizznatch · 24th January 2002, 03:36

Quote:

Originally posted by darkraider

Yeah, where is she? We little guys are in but we need a mom on these forums.

She's here, posted a couple of times today.

HI MISSY!

22nd January 2002, 12:15	#1
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	To all members : please read ! Hello to all members, As you probably already know, the forums are going through a major crisis at the moment. Lots of anger and frustration (justified most of the time) have spilled over the boards, causing some of the mods to leave and globally leading to an utterly obnoxious atmosphere. I myself am extremely angry at many things regarding the management of these forums. However, I've decided to stay aboard to try to improve things. You have (almost) all been extremely supportive and patient and knowing that you're here to back us up is the best incentive to continue we could possibly have. Let's face it: it may be quite long until these boards are restored to what they once were but I think it's worth trying Since you're here for us, then we're here for you. You guys deserve it. Have a nice day.

22nd January 2002, 12:18	#2
cmisker Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Emmen, The Netherlands Posts: 681	I love mods like you! Wanna see my Winamp 3?

22nd January 2002, 12:22	#3
. - .... .- -. .... Backpacking Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: საქართველო (Georgia) Posts: 10,104	Can't really improve on or add to Seer's post - he has said everything that us mods want to say to the members. Thanks for all your support guys - it's much appreciated at the present time. Like my photography? Buy some here....

22nd January 2002, 12:23	#4
Bop Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,884	Thanks Twilightseer. ßoþL¡©¡†¥

22nd January 2002, 12:24	#5
weedsatan Forum King Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Under the Ground Posts: 2,303	that would be great. having the forums again like in the old days.. Too fulfill this dream I'll help whereever I can. even though I am not the most supportive poster.. But this is worth it.. Kudos to you Seer.. And RM and Nemesis and all those thousands of members that make a difference.. "Insanity -- a perfectly rational adjustment to an insane world." -R. D. Lang

22nd January 2002, 12:30	#6
Bizznatch Forum King Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,180	A great forum begins with its members, without us there wouldnt be a winamp forum. Let's all pitch in and make this place as great as it used to. Even though we can never be what we used to, great members from the past such as Chev, randman, Jayn, and phish won't be with us anymore. The great mods from the past such as SexyLoserKitten and sgtfuzzbubble99 arent around to post like they used to anymore, we still have the future. Lets make it a good one.

22nd January 2002, 12:36	#7
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,688	Viva la Revalucion! I just felt like saying that

22nd January 2002, 12:41	#8
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,098	Drinks are on me, free beer and soda all around, lost the soda pic, but y'all smart as whips, use your imaginations Pull up a stool, pull up a brew and chill.........

22nd January 2002, 13:16	#9
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,228	I will just sit here by my tree and think of things to write. I will look at the mountains that we all have to cross before this journey is over.

22nd January 2002, 13:22	#10
Naamloos Forum King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: irc.tehflap.org/******* Posts: 3,085	I hope I can help you all a hand...

22nd January 2002, 13:27	#11
Indyrod Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana USA Posts: 687	I've been around the Winamp forums about as long as anyone, WAY before this current forum software. It was just red on black back then, and not that many members. The purpose of the forum then, and the early stages of THIS forum was to have a place to discuss Winamp specifically, and any problems users were having. For that purpose, the forums were great, and helped all Winamp users learn and discuss issues regarding MP3 and other audio formats. I quit posting much at this new forum over the past six or seven months, because mainly it sucks. It's just a bunch of whinny kids talking about bullshit crap that serious Winamp users could give a shit about. You want somebody to cry to, go to your preacher. The overall intelligence of this forum has taken a gigantic dive downwards, and it just doesn't interest me, except the pure discussions of Winamp and other areas of computer audio. This forum will probably NEVER return to the good old dayz, because there are many other audio forums that are better. For a boring soap opera, for kids to display their moron behavior, this is the place to be. But for us other serious longtimers, it's dumb, stupid, and I left the playground a long long time ago.

22nd January 2002, 13:31	#12
eleet-2k2 Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mobil Ave. Posts: 5,381	I'm glad there are mods like you guys who care about what is going on in teh forums! "Welcome to the Island of people who know too much."..."Did you really think balloons would stop him?!" See what I'm listening too.

22nd January 2002, 13:35	#13
John M Puts the Cuss in General Discussions (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cincy, Ohio Posts: 3,624	props to the mods. Lord knows i've had my differences with some of em, but i respect em the same for all they do for these forums. missyob made me post this.

22nd January 2002, 13:35	#14
rm' Banned Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 11,361	I don't know if any one has seen the second last season finale of Mad About You. Anyhow, the theme was that even though love is painful, and hard to maintain, it's too good to give up trying. So in the words of papadoc, keep on truckin'!

22nd January 2002, 16:08	#17
Jon Deaux Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ozark Mountains Posts: 850	"On my honor as a Winamp fan, I shall do my best not to cause, hate, discontent, or starvation in third world countries. I shall not participate in terrorism, or wars against such, unless the forums are attacked. I shall hold high the examples of those users of old, though their names are unknown to me. Goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life. And when I finaly get through doing that, I shall dwell in the house of the dead forever." Or words to that effect. "Nothing really matters much to me"-Freddie Mercury

22nd January 2002, 20:17	#18
golferboy32531 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Northwest Florida, not North Cuba Posts: 301	WE NEED MISSYOB!!! When driving a Classic Mopar, be sure to run over as many Geo/Chevrolet Metros as possible.

22nd January 2002, 22:03	#21
papadoc Comfortably Numb (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 4,619	I believe that I have 2 choices here. One: is to say to hell with it and run for the hills. I've felt this way many times before here, and almost did that one time before. But I thought about it for a few days. Had I got to those hills, I'm sure I would only look back to see what I left behind, and wonder. Two: would be to stand and fight for what I love and believe in. However and whatever it takes. The second choice is by far the hardest. Sometimes I win, sometimes I loose, but at least I'm fighting. I'd rather go down fighting knowing I tried. Kinda like the way I choose to live my life. So this is what I choose. I don't fault anyone who decides to leave. I understand that need completely. I hope that if you decide to come back, you'll find us still here fighting the good fight, to make this place the best it can be in all areas. So onward to face the demons and the dragons that plague us, with the guidance of our fearless leaders, whose own house we must fight to get in order, so they can fight with us. Last edited by papadoc; 22nd January 2002 at 22:48.

22nd January 2002, 23:33	#23
n_ick2000 Forum King Join Date: May 2001 Location: - Posts: 2,501	Before Missyob left, she said she was doing here year-end taxes. That was a little while ago. \|

23rd January 2002, 00:37	#24
DJ ANTarctic Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Ask the Milkman. Posts: 192	wasnt here for da good old days - but im willing to help bring it back "I am not responsible for the mood I am in today. Please direct all complaints to Mr. William Gates." ............ If you can read this, email me: little_nicky_nz@hotmail.com

23rd January 2002, 01:37	#25
Sasoyr Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 2	I was [edit]here for the good ol' days[/edit], and I'm sorry for making it worse. No it wasn't a post pumper and no it wasn't an attention need. I was really frustrated with whats been going on and with me popping pills today (yes I was) I kinda let it all go. You can set my post count to zero if you like. I don't care. I just would like to stay a part of this community and help the forums. I suggest making a "Internal Repairs" Forum. Here we would (NOT RELEASE ANGER) have discussions on how this community can be improved. We would have long chats and change the bad peoples' minds and make them good people. You might wanna try doing that with me. I just was so angry and I'm sorry guys. I've been going under the alias "Aeiri" on the IRC Channel (#*******) and I think I might change my name here to that too. I was here for one week of the good ol' days. Back in the summer. Man I wish we could all get that back. We were all happy. It might be with what the world's state is in today. USA and Afghanistan haven't been more angrier at each other. I see that all around us in life too. Everyone thinks we are pulling together, but we are just pushing each other way apart. Winamp \| Forums ' Economy has pushed into a deeper reccession than USA is in, lets all pitch in and try to pull our injured friend out. Yet again I am sorry if I hurt any of your feelings friends (if I haven't changed you into enemies yet), and I'd like to help people who are having a hard time, because I know how you feel. I'll try to keep my cool for now on, but if you guys want me to pack up and go, I'll do so. I won't come back again if you wish this, but I sure hope that I haven't gone to that extreme. With Regards and Apologies, Under aliases Ryosas, Aeiri, Sasoyr, Arjj, GeorgeCowerdlyLion, Gingerly, and vqB, - Brad Cable

23rd January 2002, 01:46	#26
rm' Banned Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 11,361	Everyone deserves a second chance.

23rd January 2002, 01:48	#27
Sasoyr Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 2	Thank you. I enjoy using these forums and I have been PM'ed by a couple of people that I will be missed. No names directed around. And I have got PM'ed that I should goto hell, so..... Anyway.... I'm signing up for Aeiri guys.

23rd January 2002, 01:58	#28
Rovastar Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, England Posts: 3,632	I don't think I will ever understand these general discussion forums. After an hour it is all back to normal from Flame Flame Flame Flame Flame Flame Flame Flame Flame Flame Flame Flame . to sorry Think I will stick to the winamp forums that I understand. Rovastar "Rules are for the guidance of wisemen and the obedience of fools" Visuals - Morphyre www.Morphyre.com

23rd January 2002, 02:00	#29
Aeiri Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 49	Heheh...... Anyway, can I have my IP unbanned? This computer has a grunge on me....

23rd January 2002, 02:10	#30
Rovastar Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, England Posts: 3,632	The funniest thing is people will not have a clue what I am taking about with the Flame Flame Flame Flame thing is the user and all their posts were deleted. Well I guess you just had to be there. Well I did try to intergrate more with the rest of the Winamp community of the past 24 hours but it has been like one bad trip. Back to my MilkDrop hole. Rovastar "Rules are for the guidance of wisemen and the obedience of fools" Visuals - Morphyre www.Morphyre.com

23rd January 2002, 21:58	#34
iomegajaz Balled and Chained Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 5,310	This one's being unstuck and left on GD. Let the healing begin. -jaz "My heart hates uggos." –J.D.

23rd January 2002, 22:08	#35
papadoc Comfortably Numb (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 4,619	iomegajaz...I think you did the right thing. All that could be said by members was said. Now it's up to the mods, Steve, and Sawg to sort it out. We as members should trust in them to come up with the right decisions for our forum, and trust that they keep us informed. I do. So now we should... ...Keep on Truckin

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