A 4 - 6 Week Backlog...

Bizzeh · 28th January 2002, 22:41

A 4 - 6 WEEK BACKLOG... What The Hell Is This...

Ok while there is such a huge ass back log... i was wandering if you wanted extra members for the review team until the backlog is brought down...

Hope you accept my askin 2 be on teem

Forevever · 28th January 2002, 22:42

I'd make time as well

(I think you're supposed to email a mod to apply)

Be thankful, my first skin took 6 months to publish from date of upload

chiquita chad · 28th January 2002, 22:47

hmmm... volunteer skin reviewers. id be one but i doubt anyone would go for it. and i dont think there's anyone who can give someone that power right now

Bizzeh · 28th January 2002, 22:54

i know im probably gonna get banned for this, but it needs to be said...

no offence... but we have a realy shitty crappy system for an exelent idea...

i dont know if its shity webmasters or if its shitty skins being pumped in to posting... or we dont have as many people reviewing as we make out... and (what i think i am goin to get banned for) this place is stuck in its old shitty ways, its is to fucking stuck up to bother taking offered help...

thats wat i think anyway

Forevever · 28th January 2002, 22:56

who pissed in your cheerios?

Where's Mr J? he's got a lengthy, rehashed answer for that one I'm certain (saving me from the trouble).

You'll get over it Dex, I promise.

Mr Jones · 28th January 2002, 22:57

four additional reviewers have just been taken on recently.

The 4-6 week queue is due to ...

a) the xmas holidays, even llamas need a day off
b) the review team are busy sorting the db out into something more manageable for the public to use, this has slowed things a little, Keep watching the front page of winamp.com any day now for more information on this, I assure you, you'll approve

Peace

henry3k56 · 28th January 2002, 22:59

I totally agree, there should be more people reviewing skins so that they make it to the skins page of www.winamp.com. It seems like there is a backlog of skins, which are waiting to be reviewed. Also it would be nice to help out.

Wildrose-Wally · 28th January 2002, 23:08

I will be recommending a complete turn around and going back to a bot review system, because I am getting really tired of always having to hear bitching and whining about the backlog, about the skinners and about anything else everybody seems to be an expert on. I have not heard anybody say: "Hey, all skinners have disappeared from Stereo and from Retro", or from a few other categories I have been working on almost day and night. You guys want the impossible, and you are not going to get it.

Lucid DM · 28th January 2002, 23:43

Ok ok.
Before anyone else makes an annoyed reply, and people start getting stressed just stop for a moment.
Skin reviewers, remember. The general public hardly know anything about the skin review system, nor do they know just how many skins get submitted every day.
From their end, all they see is that their skin is still sitting there.

And all you people complaining. Next time, ask first, so you know the full story before complaining.

All you reviewers just ignore the complainers, I'll wander around and try to answer to them all (the least I can do.)

_Blackdog_ · 29th January 2002, 00:35

Quote:

I will be recommending a complete turn around and going back to a bot review system

if you mean instant posting, like on deviant art, that will never happen. aol wouldn't let skins be posted that haven't been reviewed for nudity or copyright violations. hopefully when wa3 is finally released, the amount of wa2 skinners will drop dramatily and this problem will be solved. until then, use deviant art and 1001 winamp skins and quit bitchin.

btw- all of my skins get more downloads on 1001 WAS and DevArt than they do here. i guess there are so many skins that the odds are low that someone will stumble across your skin.

BullGawD · 29th January 2002, 00:48

u r dum

chiquita chad · 29th January 2002, 01:04

great way to make an entry back to the forums BullGawd

flatmatt · 29th January 2002, 01:24

That was sudden. Hehe. Welcome back to skin love, BullGawd. Hope you'll stay a bit longer.

ripe · 29th January 2002, 08:58

for your database browsing pleasure -
"Hey, all skinners have disappeared from Stereo and from Retro !!"
that's great news. there are now only 193 skins in retro!

keep up the good work folks

Wildrose-Wally · 29th January 2002, 10:36

Bizzeh · 29th January 2002, 17:50

ok LISTEN TO ME...

IF THERE IS A BACKLOG/ OVERLOAD OF SKINS... that you cannot handle... and help is being offered to you FOR FREE (LOOK IT DOES SAY OFFERED AND FREE) YOU SHOULD THINK FOR A SECOND AND SAY TO YOUR SELF .o0(hmm... im being offered free help... i should take the chance to have the great backlog of skin reduced)... NOT .o0(nahhh... fuck em!)...

btw... definitions

FREE - DOESNT COST ANYTHING... YOU DO NOT PAY FOR IT... NO MONEY INVOLVED

OFFERED - NOT ASKED FOR... ACT OF KINDNESS... DO NOT NEED TO ASK FOR...

Mr Jones · 29th January 2002, 18:05

No one said the reviewers couldn't handle it, and I don't care for the accusation that they can't.

I explained why there is a slight backlog, xmas holidays and stuff.

I also explained that new reviewers have just been taken on, these are in addition to the existing review staff, and not replacements.

One of the reasons why the team is kept down to a reasonable number is that it's easier to work as a small tight team than a massive sprawling mass of members, it's also the same reason why the winamp mod squad is kept to the numbers that it is.

If new reviewers are required , for example if people drop out, then it is discussed backstage by other members of the review team, who will suggest suitable candidates,these people will then be approached and asked if they would like to help out. These people are often members of these forums who have shown a level of maturity, balanced opinions and who have usualy been around a while.

That's how it works, as we have just taken on additional people in the last month, there is currently no requirement for additional people.

If you have an issue with that, feel free to take it up with me via the use of the PM button, don't go off on ANOTHER CAPS LOCK RANTORAMA, that aint the way to impress people.

The review team do an excellent, balanced job and deserve your applause and thanks, not a perpetual stream of "WTF KIND OF SHITE SYSTEM IS THIS" style posts.

You will see later this evening, just exactly how hard they work

Peace

Bizzeh · 29th January 2002, 18:15

i never said "WTF KIND OF SHITE SYSTEM IS THIS"...

and u still havnt answered "Why Dont You Pick Up 4 - 8 More Members On A Temp Basis... Just Untill The Backlog Has Been Brought Down... Then They Can Be Kept "On Call" If The Backlog Ever Builds Back Up Again...

btw... CAPS were not meant to impress... there meant to get my point across

Mr Jones · 29th January 2002, 18:25

Ok, lets start at the beginning shall we, the reason I didnt answer

Quote:

"Why Dont You Pick Up 4 - 8 More Members On A Temp Basis... Just Untill The Backlog Has Been Brought Down...

Is because I don't recall you saying that untill the last post you made.

Secondly,When or who decided it was a backlog anyhow? 4-6 weeks is pretty good acctually, and has been pretty much the same since the review team came into force back in August, if you excuse the huge database fuck up that happend in August/September. You can check that in the "FAQ about submitting skins" thingy at the top of this forum, it's been written in there for months.

Cast your mind back to early this year when delays of up to 3 months were common in publishing skins, you can recall that right?

By the way, it isn't acctually that easy just making temp reviewers, it requires changed to the user database, which given that there is a lack of resources withing Nullsoft, dosn't happen overnight.

Didn't answer your question?, I think I may have done.

I said additional reviewers have just been taken on, shite, it took near on a month to get those users set up.

Next up, writing in caps, dosn't get your point accross, it merely makes me skip over it.

Lastly, which bit of.....

Quote:

If you have an issue with that, feel free to take it up with me via the use of the PM button

Is unclear ?

I tell you what, I'll be sure to bring your name up backstage, see what the other guys think of you?, hows that sound?

BullGawD · 29th January 2002, 18:48

see? dum. (sic)

Bizzeh · 29th January 2002, 19:14

can some1 close this or delete it now... im PM'ing Mr Jones instead now

28th January 2002, 22:41	#1
Bizzeh Forum Pirate Beta Team Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,032	A 4 - 6 Week Backlog... A 4 - 6 WEEK BACKLOG... What The Hell Is This... Ok while there is such a huge ass back log... i was wandering if you wanted extra members for the review team until the backlog is brought down... Hope you accept my askin 2 be on teem Wap Server For Winamp 5 :: Kill All The Humans :: Blackpool Hotels

28th January 2002, 22:42	#2
Forevever Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: 3rd floor front bedroom by the window :D Posts: 1,899	I'd make time as well (I think you're supposed to email a mod to apply) Be thankful, my first skin took 6 months to publish from date of upload If anyone can find any of the skins I made please email them to Forevever@aol.com I can't remember all the names but specifically hunting for Lascivious, and DEVOUR (compilation with Jax) and any in the Impulse series which had 6 total. Auriferous, Gilt, Impulse, Nadir, and 2 others I can't remember but you dig.

28th January 2002, 22:47	#3
chiquita chad Forum King Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,391	hmmm... volunteer skin reviewers. id be one but i doubt anyone would go for it. and i dont think there's anyone who can give someone that power right now Artist Track

28th January 2002, 22:54	#4
Bizzeh Forum Pirate Beta Team Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,032	i know im probably gonna get banned for this, but it needs to be said... no offence... but we have a realy shitty crappy system for an exelent idea... i dont know if its shity webmasters or if its shitty skins being pumped in to posting... or we dont have as many people reviewing as we make out... and (what i think i am goin to get banned for) this place is stuck in its old shitty ways, its is to fucking stuck up to bother taking offered help... thats wat i think anyway Wap Server For Winamp 5 :: Kill All The Humans :: Blackpool Hotels

28th January 2002, 22:56	#5
Forevever Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: 3rd floor front bedroom by the window :D Posts: 1,899	who pissed in your cheerios? Where's Mr J? he's got a lengthy, rehashed answer for that one I'm certain (saving me from the trouble). You'll get over it Dex, I promise. If anyone can find any of the skins I made please email them to Forevever@aol.com I can't remember all the names but specifically hunting for Lascivious, and DEVOUR (compilation with Jax) and any in the Impulse series which had 6 total. Auriferous, Gilt, Impulse, Nadir, and 2 others I can't remember but you dig.

28th January 2002, 22:57	#6
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,021	four additional reviewers have just been taken on recently. The 4-6 week queue is due to ... a) the xmas holidays, even llamas need a day off b) the review team are busy sorting the db out into something more manageable for the public to use, this has slowed things a little, Keep watching the front page of winamp.com any day now for more information on this, I assure you, you'll approve Peace

28th January 2002, 22:59	#7
henry3k56 Forum King Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Internet Posts: 3 Trillion Posts: 4,241	I totally agree, there should be more people reviewing skins so that they make it to the skins page of www.winamp.com. It seems like there is a backlog of skins, which are waiting to be reviewed. Also it would be nice to help out. henry3k56 \| Summer is here. My Flickr Page & Frontierra \| Posting Since September 2001.

28th January 2002, 23:08	#8
Wildrose-Wally The Albertan Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sunny Southern Alberta Posts: 6,051	I will be recommending a complete turn around and going back to a bot review system, because I am getting really tired of always having to hear bitching and whining about the backlog, about the skinners and about anything else everybody seems to be an expert on. I have not heard anybody say: "Hey, all skinners have disappeared from Stereo and from Retro", or from a few other categories I have been working on almost day and night. You guys want the impossible, and you are not going to get it. "We are all faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly disguised as impossible situations." ~ Charles R. Swindoll

28th January 2002, 23:43	#9
Lucid DM Eat, skin, sleep. Repeat. (Major Dude) Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: all over the place. Posts: 1,490	Ok ok. Before anyone else makes an annoyed reply, and people start getting stressed just stop for a moment. Skin reviewers, remember. The general public hardly know anything about the skin review system, nor do they know just how many skins get submitted every day. From their end, all they see is that their skin is still sitting there. And all you people complaining. Next time, ask first, so you know the full story before complaining. All you reviewers just ignore the complainers, I'll wander around and try to answer to them all (the least I can do.) Lucid Dream \| Orange

29th January 2002, 00:48	#11
BullGawD Cool Guy. (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,122	u r dum ...a blatant person.

29th January 2002, 01:04	#12
chiquita chad Forum King Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,391	great way to make an entry back to the forums BullGawd Artist Track

29th January 2002, 01:24	#13
flatmatt Iron Chef (Reviewer) Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Winamp Island Posts: 3,036	That was sudden. Hehe. Welcome back to skin love, BullGawd. Hope you'll stay a bit longer. flatmatt.com v5.0 \| Echoes \| Meddling Kids v1.52 Space Invaders v1.1 \| Danielle Fishel v1.11

29th January 2002, 08:58	#14
ripe Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Can't See Me Posts: 722	for your database browsing pleasure - "Hey, all skinners have disappeared from Stereo and from Retro !!" that's great news. there are now only 193 skins in retro! keep up the good work folks

29th January 2002, 10:36	#15
Wildrose-Wally The Albertan Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sunny Southern Alberta Posts: 6,051	"We are all faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly disguised as impossible situations." ~ Charles R. Swindoll

29th January 2002, 17:50	#16
Bizzeh Forum Pirate Beta Team Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,032	ok LISTEN TO ME... IF THERE IS A BACKLOG/ OVERLOAD OF SKINS... that you cannot handle... and help is being offered to you FOR FREE (LOOK IT DOES SAY OFFERED AND FREE) YOU SHOULD THINK FOR A SECOND AND SAY TO YOUR SELF .o0(hmm... im being offered free help... i should take the chance to have the great backlog of skin reduced)... NOT .o0(nahhh... fuck em!)... btw... definitions FREE - DOESNT COST ANYTHING... YOU DO NOT PAY FOR IT... NO MONEY INVOLVED OFFERED - NOT ASKED FOR... ACT OF KINDNESS... DO NOT NEED TO ASK FOR... Wap Server For Winamp 5 :: Kill All The Humans :: Blackpool Hotels

29th January 2002, 18:05	#17
Mr Jones Nothing to say... Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 23,021	No one said the reviewers couldn't handle it, and I don't care for the accusation that they can't. I explained why there is a slight backlog, xmas holidays and stuff. I also explained that new reviewers have just been taken on, these are in addition to the existing review staff, and not replacements. One of the reasons why the team is kept down to a reasonable number is that it's easier to work as a small tight team than a massive sprawling mass of members, it's also the same reason why the winamp mod squad is kept to the numbers that it is. If new reviewers are required , for example if people drop out, then it is discussed backstage by other members of the review team, who will suggest suitable candidates,these people will then be approached and asked if they would like to help out. These people are often members of these forums who have shown a level of maturity, balanced opinions and who have usualy been around a while. That's how it works, as we have just taken on additional people in the last month, there is currently no requirement for additional people. If you have an issue with that, feel free to take it up with me via the use of the PM button, don't go off on ANOTHER CAPS LOCK RANTORAMA, that aint the way to impress people. The review team do an excellent, balanced job and deserve your applause and thanks, not a perpetual stream of "WTF KIND OF SHITE SYSTEM IS THIS" style posts. You will see later this evening, just exactly how hard they work Peace

29th January 2002, 18:15	#18
Bizzeh Forum Pirate Beta Team Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,032	i never said "WTF KIND OF SHITE SYSTEM IS THIS"... and u still havnt answered "Why Dont You Pick Up 4 - 8 More Members On A Temp Basis... Just Untill The Backlog Has Been Brought Down... Then They Can Be Kept "On Call" If The Backlog Ever Builds Back Up Again... btw... CAPS were not meant to impress... there meant to get my point across Wap Server For Winamp 5 :: Kill All The Humans :: Blackpool Hotels

29th January 2002, 18:48	#20
BullGawD Cool Guy. (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,122	see? dum. (sic) ...a blatant person.

29th January 2002, 19:14	#21
Bizzeh Forum Pirate Beta Team Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,032	can some1 close this or delete it now... im PM'ing Mr Jones instead now Wap Server For Winamp 5 :: Kill All The Humans :: Blackpool Hotels

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