MilkDrop 1.01 Desktop Mode Problems

Sox · 30th January 2002, 03:38

Ok, first off. I absolutely love this visualization in Full Screen and it runs great. Usually around a very steady 50fps on 32bit 1024x768 48x36mesh size and about 35-40fps on a normal mesh @ 32 1280x1024. Ok, so enough bragging or something.

So,
settings:
In Desktop Mode.
Using the hardware blit
double-buffered option
(and trying variations of rgb b4 yuv or uv2 b4 uyvy)
Resolution full (anything else looks really gross)

Problem:
Maybe this is in the design but the full screen mode doesn't compare to the desktop mode at all.

A), the desktop mode for some reason is very "greenish" the background is mainly a green color and it always reverts to some form of green. Unfortunately I dislike green…

B)(btw I'm running in 1280x1024x32@85hz) the visual isn't centered in the desktop. It's way off to the right. I don't even think you can see the "cortex". Sometimes, during shifting it is so off center that you will end up having a solid (green) background for a few seconds.

I think desktop mode would look real cool if it wasn't so green and off centered. Or at least I could form a better opinion about it right?

Comp Stats:
WinXP PRO (5.1 bulid 2600)
AMD Athlon ~1208mhz
512MB
DirectX 8.1 (4.08.01.0810)
NVidia Geforce3 (64mb) Driver Version: 23.11
Winamp 2.78C

Feel free to email me at Leeterist@hotmail.com if you have any opinons or want me to test anything specifically.

Thanx a bunch
Sox

Rovastar · 30th January 2002, 04:03

You lucky man. Those speeds I need a GF3. Is that with the texture size at 2048x2048 in full screen. That would be good I can only go up 1024x1024 with my GF2.

ARe there newer drivers for your card out 21.83?

Back to your problem can you post screen shots and the debug file.
From the config panel and post the c:\m_debug.txt.

Later it is bed time for me.

Rovastar

Krash · 30th January 2002, 12:02

Rova, I'm surprised at you - I thought we all had a standardised response to this question by now

Hardware blitting doesn't work properly on any nVidia card. It's a driver issue. There's nothing, you, we, or Ryan can do about it. If you really want desktop mode with hardware blit, complain to nVidia.

- Krash

Sox · 30th January 2002, 21:01

If it's a driver problem, do we have any documentation on what the problem actually is and maybe a proposed fix? I'll complain to whomever. I'm quite good at it actually. Although I won't be an ignorant luser and tell them that it, "just doesn't work right".

I'll have to post config file and screen shot if it is still needed/wanted later. Damn workstation at work running NT 4.0. Too bad we can't get a "MilkDrop Lite" for NT, but I guess it doesn't actually pay, since only out-of-date places like the state goverment would use this old crap.

Thanx,
Sox

Rovastar · 30th January 2002, 21:18

Krash leave it out. It was about 5 in the morning when I posted that.

malhaak · 8th February 2002, 12:07

ok im not claming to be a master programmer or nothing but what exactly is the driver error with nvidia cards... i have seen a great many other programs using YUV and RGB overlays (and they have work buffers in different color modes) with no problems on NVIDIA and whatever other chipset you wish to mention.... i understand there is a co;or space issue.... but i havent seen any documentation on what the problem is exactly... i mean hell if the FULL detalis of what your trying to do were written down somebody might know how to help.... i dont know i just seems like there would have to be an easy workaround and if ppl knew the method you were using to do stuff they might be able to offer some construtive advise.. hell i just want to see it work.... thats my two cents

NhiKo · 8th February 2002, 12:08

I thought there was a solution...
Anyway, you can still enjoy this wonderfull plug-in without hardware acceleration... it takes 73% (

!!!) of my P3-733 (quarter-ugly res but it's still nice).

xantus · 11th February 2002, 00:30

ill continue to love my radeon

i get full fps with the right colors and it only takes an average of 10% of my pIII 500.

30th January 2002, 03:38	#1
Sox Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2	MilkDrop 1.01 Desktop Mode Problems Ok, first off. I absolutely love this visualization in Full Screen and it runs great. Usually around a very steady 50fps on 32bit 1024x768 48x36mesh size and about 35-40fps on a normal mesh @ 32 1280x1024. Ok, so enough bragging or something. So, settings: In Desktop Mode. Using the hardware blit double-buffered option (and trying variations of rgb b4 yuv or uv2 b4 uyvy) Resolution full (anything else looks really gross) Problem: Maybe this is in the design but the full screen mode doesn't compare to the desktop mode at all. A), the desktop mode for some reason is very "greenish" the background is mainly a green color and it always reverts to some form of green. Unfortunately I dislike green… B)(btw I'm running in 1280x1024x32@85hz) the visual isn't centered in the desktop. It's way off to the right. I don't even think you can see the "cortex". Sometimes, during shifting it is so off center that you will end up having a solid (green) background for a few seconds. I think desktop mode would look real cool if it wasn't so green and off centered. Or at least I could form a better opinion about it right? Comp Stats: WinXP PRO (5.1 bulid 2600) AMD Athlon ~1208mhz 512MB DirectX 8.1 (4.08.01.0810) NVidia Geforce3 (64mb) Driver Version: 23.11 Winamp 2.78C Feel free to email me at Leeterist@hotmail.com if you have any opinons or want me to test anything specifically. Thanx a bunch Sox

30th January 2002, 04:03	#2
Rovastar Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, England Posts: 3,612	You lucky man. Those speeds I need a GF3. Is that with the texture size at 2048x2048 in full screen. That would be good I can only go up 1024x1024 with my GF2. ARe there newer drivers for your card out 21.83? Back to your problem can you post screen shots and the debug file. From the config panel and post the c:\m_debug.txt. Later it is bed time for me. Rovastar "Rules are for the guidance of wisemen and the obedience of fools" Visuals - MilkDrop www.milkdrop.co.uk New Visuals - Morphyre www.Morphyre.com

30th January 2002, 21:01	#4
Sox Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2	Nvidia Driver Problem If it's a driver problem, do we have any documentation on what the problem actually is and maybe a proposed fix? I'll complain to whomever. I'm quite good at it actually. Although I won't be an ignorant luser and tell them that it, "just doesn't work right". I'll have to post config file and screen shot if it is still needed/wanted later. Damn workstation at work running NT 4.0. Too bad we can't get a "MilkDrop Lite" for NT, but I guess it doesn't actually pay, since only out-of-date places like the state goverment would use this old crap. Thanx, Sox

30th January 2002, 21:18	#5
Rovastar Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, England Posts: 3,612	Krash leave it out. It was about 5 in the morning when I posted that. "Rules are for the guidance of wisemen and the obedience of fools" Visuals - MilkDrop www.milkdrop.co.uk New Visuals - Morphyre www.Morphyre.com

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30th January 2002, 12:02	#3
Krash Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 977	Rova, I'm surprised at you - I thought we all had a standardised response to this question by now Hardware blitting doesn't work properly on any nVidia card. It's a driver issue. There's nothing, you, we, or Ryan can do about it. If you really want desktop mode with hardware blit, complain to nVidia. - Krash

8th February 2002, 12:07	#6
malhaak Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 7	ok im not claming to be a master programmer or nothing but what exactly is the driver error with nvidia cards... i have seen a great many other programs using YUV and RGB overlays (and they have work buffers in different color modes) with no problems on NVIDIA and whatever other chipset you wish to mention.... i understand there is a co;or space issue.... but i havent seen any documentation on what the problem is exactly... i mean hell if the FULL detalis of what your trying to do were written down somebody might know how to help.... i dont know i just seems like there would have to be an easy workaround and if ppl knew the method you were using to do stuff they might be able to offer some construtive advise.. hell i just want to see it work.... thats my two cents

8th February 2002, 12:08	#7
NhiKo Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1	I thought there was a solution... Anyway, you can still enjoy this wonderfull plug-in without hardware acceleration... it takes 73% ( !!!) of my P3-733 (quarter-ugly res but it's still nice).

11th February 2002, 00:30	#8
xantus Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 12	ill continue to love my radeon i get full fps with the right colors and it only takes an average of 10% of my pIII 500.