Guys are the downfall of society

spunkbubble · 6th March 2002, 09:19

Umm don't know if that's the right subject to put in, but hey, it'll do...

I really do not understand guys. I don't understand hardly a word you say. You lie, you cheat, but you think it's perfectly normal?

Okay, I'm making a massive generalisation here... But I've yet to see a guy treat me differently; so what's the secret?

TwIsTeDdDx · 6th March 2002, 09:56

this is an effort to beat the "girls are the problem thread" yea?

well i dunno, but the guy to chick ratio on a media player forum *may* be a bit biast..

maybe if the topic was "who has the longest dick here", you'ld get a better reaction and a much larger thread as we bicker at each other on how "mine needs to be reeled up" and "yours is a tic-tac/lil toe"

anyways if you read the other thread you'ld understand perfectly you are the absolute problem here, not us :|

maybe if u talked less and put out more.. (also dont be so picky, whats wrong with us nerds

)

s1138 · 6th March 2002, 10:29

hehe

c2R · 6th March 2002, 20:06

Quote:

Originally posted by spunkbubble
Umm don't know if that's the right subject to put in, but hey, it'll do...

I really do not understand guys. I don't understand hardly a word you say. You lie, you cheat, but you think it's perfectly normal?

Okay, I'm making a massive generalisation here... But I've yet to see a guy treat me differently; so what's the secret?

Communication's probably the problem. Like for example a girl never actually says what she means, and guys generally don't do much talking, particularly with regard to feelings.

I've also found girls to be irrational and very emotional - I remember once an ex spent an hour on the phone yelling at me as I couldn't visit her on a weekend I promised to - the fact that my car was broken down and I had to spend all weekend repairing it simply wasn't a good enough reason.

As for cheating - I've never cheated on a girl, and I never intend to. Sure there are guys that do, but I know for a fact there are girls that do aswell.

Not sure what I've said is particuarly helpful. Oh well, I'll shut up now.

Merlin · 7th March 2002, 00:31

Men have different interests to women, usually. This results in the crappy discrimination at work, the crappy supposed opinions that each sex has of the other... I mean, look at all the jokes you see/hear on TV, that are about (or rely upon for comedic effect) the differences between men and women. Plus, hardly a day goes by without someone speaking out about it.

Men don't usually understand women; Women don't usually understand men. It's just the way it is. Men have a different rationale, a different logic pattern. It's hard to explain, but it means most women can shop for hours, while most men get bored of it. It needs more explanation than I can write in a day, so I'll leave it there.

7th March 2002, 01:09

You are absolutely right. Lying and cheating are not acceptable traits in either sex. And I've seen it in both. The secret is time. Given time, most boys grow out of this stage. In the meantime, stick with older men. *cough, cough*

Xerxes · 7th March 2002, 01:14

Are you in need of a Ricola or a cough drop? You could have just said so.

7th March 2002, 01:19

I'm just "in need".

Xerxes · 7th March 2002, 01:55

I have no need for relationships at this point in my life - at this point a waste of mental and financial resources.

I present to the court Exhibit A - my sister.

This allows me to watch, impartially, the ever growing number of my sister's failed relationships. Like a scientific experiment... I observe the stages of relationships: Lust, happiness, tolerance, then trouble, then uneasy peace, then more trouble, (these previous 2 repeat themselves once or twice occasionally), the climactic breakup, the "retreat to friends house", the weeklong anti-social "All Men are BASTARDS" period, then "Well, some men are OK", acceptance, and then flirtation.

Repeat ad infinitum.

The same goes for my brother as well - but the stages seem to last longer in duration. I attribute that to him giving expensive gifts early in the game (diamond earings after 2 months!).

Young people are very bad at committing to anything - a romance more so than ever. And in case they do tie the knot, half of all marriages that begin before age 20 end in divorce.

There is definitely a need to be seen among peers "with an other" to maintain social status... especcially in school... that is the tenuous string that keeps many of the "relationships" together. Observe- again, my sister as your case study. She considers entering into a thing with a guy who she thinks is somewhat obnoxius. We go to starbucks ... she wants to talk me about it. (I being the love expert of course

) I ask about him - she says he's funny, but sometimes takes it too far. He also makes comments about her weight. My sister is the acme of natural beauty- anything concerning her size is sorely unfounded. I say "why begin with this guy?" "I like him" "What are your goals with this relationship - do you ever want to be dumped again or is this the one? Because the coin only lands 2 ways. Either in break-up or marriage. You must confront that eventuality" No anwser, she changes the subject.

She begins to see him.

He dumps her 2 months later. She is surprised and heartbroken.

My question is why? I glean this anwser from watching similar patterns: You have to identify from the begining how both parties regard future plans. In this case, my sister was oblivious and he was interested in a short fling. Other times, my sister wanted to go all the way and he wanted it short term. And yet in others it was her who wanted the quick arrangement and the poor guy who was devoted to the end.

Both sexes have their peculiarities in reasoning, but these are variables. All guys don't cheat. Some women are entirely interested in sex. The only thing one can do is identify motivations and future plans as early on as possible, and then intelligently proceed using your knowledge.

I think Men and Women are the downfall of society.

Xerxes · 7th March 2002, 01:57

And I should also add, it was once said "The only constant in all of your failed relationships is you"

. - .... .- -. .... · 7th March 2002, 12:26

Myself, I prefer "ex is a variable" - seems to fit in with my life right now

spunkbubble · 9th March 2002, 11:10

Exes are pure evil.

6th March 2002, 09:19	#1
spunkbubble Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 220	Guys are the downfall of society Umm don't know if that's the right subject to put in, but hey, it'll do... I really do not understand guys. I don't understand hardly a word you say. You lie, you cheat, but you think it's perfectly normal? Okay, I'm making a massive generalisation here... But I've yet to see a guy treat me differently; so what's the secret? sunshine on the window makes me happy, like i should be, outside all around me, really sleazy, then it hits me, don't tell me you can't see what it means to me! meanwhile, in the moonlight, purple people, unforseeable, lonely as they may be, they'll be peachy, then it hits me...

7th March 2002, 00:31	#5
Merlin ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 4,209	Men have different interests to women, usually. This results in the crappy discrimination at work, the crappy supposed opinions that each sex has of the other... I mean, look at all the jokes you see/hear on TV, that are about (or rely upon for comedic effect) the differences between men and women. Plus, hardly a day goes by without someone speaking out about it. Men don't usually understand women; Women don't usually understand men. It's just the way it is. Men have a different rationale, a different logic pattern. It's hard to explain, but it means most women can shop for hours, while most men get bored of it. It needs more explanation than I can write in a day, so I'll leave it there. as he faced the sun, he cast no shadow __________________

7th March 2002, 01:55	#9
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,687	She blinded me with Science. I have no need for relationships at this point in my life - at this point a waste of mental and financial resources. I present to the court Exhibit A - my sister. This allows me to watch, impartially, the ever growing number of my sister's failed relationships. Like a scientific experiment... I observe the stages of relationships: Lust, happiness, tolerance, then trouble, then uneasy peace, then more trouble, (these previous 2 repeat themselves once or twice occasionally), the climactic breakup, the "retreat to friends house", the weeklong anti-social "All Men are BASTARDS" period, then "Well, some men are OK", acceptance, and then flirtation. Repeat ad infinitum. The same goes for my brother as well - but the stages seem to last longer in duration. I attribute that to him giving expensive gifts early in the game (diamond earings after 2 months!). Young people are very bad at committing to anything - a romance more so than ever. And in case they do tie the knot, half of all marriages that begin before age 20 end in divorce. There is definitely a need to be seen among peers "with an other" to maintain social status... especcially in school... that is the tenuous string that keeps many of the "relationships" together. Observe- again, my sister as your case study. She considers entering into a thing with a guy who she thinks is somewhat obnoxius. We go to starbucks ... she wants to talk me about it. (I being the love expert of course ) I ask about him - she says he's funny, but sometimes takes it too far. He also makes comments about her weight. My sister is the acme of natural beauty- anything concerning her size is sorely unfounded. I say "why begin with this guy?" "I like him" "What are your goals with this relationship - do you ever want to be dumped again or is this the one? Because the coin only lands 2 ways. Either in break-up or marriage. You must confront that eventuality" No anwser, she changes the subject. She begins to see him. He dumps her 2 months later. She is surprised and heartbroken. My question is why? I glean this anwser from watching similar patterns: You have to identify from the begining how both parties regard future plans. In this case, my sister was oblivious and he was interested in a short fling. Other times, my sister wanted to go all the way and he wanted it short term. And yet in others it was her who wanted the quick arrangement and the poor guy who was devoted to the end. Both sexes have their peculiarities in reasoning, but these are variables. All guys don't cheat. Some women are entirely interested in sex. The only thing one can do is identify motivations and future plans as early on as possible, and then intelligently proceed using your knowledge. I think Men and Women are the downfall of society.

7th March 2002, 12:26	#11
. - .... .- -. .... Backpacking Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: საქართველო (Georgia) Posts: 10,098	Myself, I prefer "ex is a variable" - seems to fit in with my life right now Like my photography? Buy some here....

9th March 2002, 11:10	#12
spunkbubble Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 220	Exes are pure evil. sunshine on the window makes me happy, like i should be, outside all around me, really sleazy, then it hits me, don't tell me you can't see what it means to me! meanwhile, in the moonlight, purple people, unforseeable, lonely as they may be, they'll be peachy, then it hits me...

6th March 2002, 09:56	#2
TwIsTeDdDx Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 108	this is an effort to beat the "girls are the problem thread" yea? well i dunno, but the guy to chick ratio on a media player forum may be a bit biast.. maybe if the topic was "who has the longest dick here", you'ld get a better reaction and a much larger thread as we bicker at each other on how "mine needs to be reeled up" and "yours is a tic-tac/lil toe" anyways if you read the other thread you'ld understand perfectly you are the absolute problem here, not us :\| maybe if u talked less and put out more.. (also dont be so picky, whats wrong with us nerds )

6th March 2002, 10:29	#3
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,932	hehe

7th March 2002, 01:09	#6
randman Guest Posts: n/a	You are absolutely right. Lying and cheating are not acceptable traits in either sex. And I've seen it in both. The secret is time. Given time, most boys grow out of this stage. In the meantime, stick with older men. cough, cough

7th March 2002, 01:14	#7
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,687	Are you in need of a Ricola or a cough drop? You could have just said so.

7th March 2002, 01:19	#8
randman Guest Posts: n/a	I'm just "in need".

7th March 2002, 01:57	#10
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,687	And I should also add, it was once said "The only constant in all of your failed relationships is you"

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