Chill UnConeD the above comment was directed at Horse-Fly's
'well, use avs at fullscreen, but use it at lower resolutions, not 100000 X 1000000'
I was simply redressing the balance. It usual for newbies to run graphical programs at a res of 800x600 upward esp if you have a PC built in the last 1 or 2 years. AVS displays all the reses available. it is only natural you do not select the lowest one!
I know why I run any other viz I choose a higher res than 300x400 or something.
AVS is different to all that. People that do not know AVS get understandably very confused with this. Horse-Fly was trying to imply that GabboRasta was being greedy by select massive res when the reality was he probably using a res less then his desktop. A bit harsh I thought.
Take my machine for example. I have a still fairly decent AMD TBird 1.333Ghz. (SO about the same real speed as the GabboRasta)
If I run say your Pack II with 320x240x32 (True no pixel doubling) at Fullscreen with the Rendering Options half way. It never gets above about 12-13fps. Therefore even my sarcastic "Use a low resolution, not 200 x 150" does not seem that far from the truth. SO I am really 'using exaggerated and/or incorrect arguments.'
For a newbie and the even more experienced among us may seem crazy.
I tried to help GabboRasta concerning this in this thread.
So please put these comments in context.
And I do not even mention MilkDrop in all of this.
I don't think AVS sucks I still use AVS sometimes. Hell I have about 50 visuals on my machine I write presets/tutorials for R2 and do loads of help with beta testing too and Tripex 3 as well. (These plug-ins do not have to run at 320x240 to get above 30fps. The public will a naturally get confused.)
Sometimes I feel that the AVS community is a little 'sheltered' regarding new stuff. An example of this was the surprise of MilkDrop in our debate on these forums a few months ago now. Most had never even tried it let alone know you create your own effects until that thread was created. And people expect thing to run at a higher res now a days. People, rightly or wrongly, expect to use their 3d cards.
My comments try and reflect this.
I also stick by my beat detection comments. As I have never seen any other beat detection other than the only 'average' built in BPM counter so I presumed that AVS does not do this or people do not understand how to do it. Please show me some.
The only thing that annoys me about AVS is all you lot hogging the new preset section on the website so I cannot see when a new preset is released as it has been flooded with AVS 'plug-ins'.
'You don't see *us* doing this in your forum, right?'
Err......I have seen a fair few of *you* on the Smoke forums.......Nuff Said.
'Because not everyone wants 1024x768 @ 30fps'
Are you really saying that you do not want AVS to run at 1024x768@30fps? Come on UnConed you'll love it. If I offered you a nice 2.5Ghz PC now I am sure you would take it.
Anything below 20 fps has poor beat detection for a start. A load of other new Plug-ins want you to run them at 60fps+.
Everyone wants things quicker and better. And there is nothing wrong with questioning why something is slow. Hell I hopefully have found a way of increasing MilkDrop’s speed for most presets by up to 20%. This will make things better. Questioning stuff is always good. Too often I have seen answers to questions of ‘it has always done that’ or ‘that is the best we can do’ only for a better solution to be available.
Anyway I digress.
The majority of my posts here are informative and try and help the people.
I thought you would understand that.
Oh and please not let’s not get personal UnConeD. Keep it friendly.