two things i was wondering about

Stresss · 14th April 2002, 19:50

1st how would i go about making a visual plug in. what programs are needed, are their any site/s that i could go to, are there any books (if any) that are a good read for this?

2nd what a is very good bit rate for mp3s to use on a car system. i have my songs playing full blast so i would like them to be clear and crisp and sound as if it were a CD. most of my mp3s are at 96-128 bit rates.

thanks in advance for any info you guys hook up.

PhotoFx · 14th April 2002, 19:52

well, if you're converting them to audio(as opposed to a car mp3 player), get as high as possible, since they all end up the same size per length. But, if you're leaving them as mp3's, i suggest at least 128, probbably one or two notches up.

eleet-2k2 · 14th April 2002, 19:52

1. You must know how to program in C or C++.

2. 160kb

baafie · 14th April 2002, 20:08

Knowledge of any win32 compiling programming language will do.
You should know how to use the win32 application programming interface, too.

I encode my mp3s at 320KB/s...

PhotoFx · 14th April 2002, 20:12

out of curiosity, is there a bitrate where the file sizes will actually be about the same as the original wav file?

baafie · 14th April 2002, 20:29

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Originally posted by Sawg 2.0

NO. Because I am sick of telling people this. Visual Basic is too damn slow and crapy to make a visualization plug-in. Same for I/O.

I said programming language, not VB

eleet-2k2 · 14th April 2002, 21:05

Quote:

Originally posted by PhotoFx
out of curiosity, is there a bitrate where the file sizes will actually be about the same as the original wav file?

Please tell me this.

Why in God's good name would you want to encode (meaning compress) a sound file, that would blimp the same space on your hard drive as the original?!!?!?!?

That's like zipping a file but it's gonna be the same size as the original.

/me counts to 10
/me calms down

Stresss · 14th April 2002, 21:21

hmmm thanks for the info, i really mean it. i'm VERY picky when it comes to sound so i like things to sound great

if anyone could direct me to a cool mp3 website that offers info on how to improve mp3 sound and such that would be cool.

it sucks that i have to learn c++ or something to make a visual plug in. i was hoping it was more to do with maya or 3d max. i'm in a motion grahpics class and i was hoping that a visual plug in would pull in some extra credit ;P

Stresss · 14th April 2002, 21:36

well you see i have a computer in the car that i use to play mp3, but that uses too much to run all day and night, so i'm thinking of getting a car mp3 player like Empeg or something.

eleet-2k2 · 14th April 2002, 22:55

Quote:

Originally posted by baafie

I said programming language, not VB

Hey VB is still very code oriented, it just makes it better as a language because you can speed up app development. But C/C++ is by far the best language I've seen/learned/used.

binary hero · 15th April 2002, 09:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Sawg 2.0
Ogg

BOW DOWN TO THE POWER OF THE OGG

c2R · 15th April 2002, 17:34

Quote:

Originally posted by baafie
I encode my mp3s at 320KB/s...

I do mine using lame and set an abr of 192 with lower limit of 96 and upper of 320.

Anyone who says that they can't hear a difference between a Xing encoded 128 and an abr lame encoded 192 is either a liar or simple tone deaf

n_ick2000 · 15th April 2002, 19:27

I don't care to much about space, so I usually go Lame at a CBR of 192kbps.

Nofx Guy · 15th April 2002, 19:49

ogg all the way..

i encode with cdex and i use a quality of 5.12 .... works out just fine!

dylman · 15th April 2002, 19:55

I use --alt-preset 160 (ABR 160 kbps) because --alt-preset standard files are too big for me, take too long to encode, and I can't tell the difference anyway.

Apparently the next version of LAME will improve the ABR modes, so that's good.

c2R · 15th April 2002, 23:06

Quote:

Originally posted by n_ick2000
I don't care to much about space, so I usually go Lame at a CBR of 192kbps.

Just wondering why you use CBR - that's so 1990s

GoldenSphynx · 15th April 2002, 23:55

Where can i learn basic C/C++ and then move on to higher levels of it?

14th April 2002, 19:50	#1
Stresss Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3	two things i was wondering about 1st how would i go about making a visual plug in. what programs are needed, are their any site/s that i could go to, are there any books (if any) that are a good read for this? 2nd what a is very good bit rate for mp3s to use on a car system. i have my songs playing full blast so i would like them to be clear and crisp and sound as if it were a CD. most of my mp3s are at 96-128 bit rates. thanks in advance for any info you guys hook up.

14th April 2002, 19:52	#2
PhotoFx Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: South for the winter. Posts: 840	well, if you're converting them to audio(as opposed to a car mp3 player), get as high as possible, since they all end up the same size per length. But, if you're leaving them as mp3's, i suggest at least 128, probbably one or two notches up. PhotoFx -[=]-"Visual forms are not inherent in themselves, but are granted by the act of seeing..." -Trevor Goodchild

14th April 2002, 19:52	#3
eleet-2k2 Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mobil Ave. Posts: 5,381	1. You must know how to program in C or C++. 2. 160kb "Welcome to the Island of people who know too much."..."Did you really think balloons would stop him?!" See what I'm listening too.

14th April 2002, 20:12	#5
PhotoFx Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: South for the winter. Posts: 840	out of curiosity, is there a bitrate where the file sizes will actually be about the same as the original wav file? PhotoFx -[=]-"Visual forms are not inherent in themselves, but are granted by the act of seeing..." -Trevor Goodchild

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n_ick2000 Forum King Join Date: May 2001 Location: - Posts: 2,501	I don't care to much about space, so I usually go Lame at a CBR of 192kbps. \|

14th April 2002, 20:08	#4
baafie feminazi (Major Dude) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,767	Knowledge of any win32 compiling programming language will do. You should know how to use the win32 application programming interface, too. I encode my mp3s at 320KB/s...

14th April 2002, 21:21	#8
Stresss Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3	hmmm thanks for the info, i really mean it. i'm VERY picky when it comes to sound so i like things to sound great if anyone could direct me to a cool mp3 website that offers info on how to improve mp3 sound and such that would be cool. it sucks that i have to learn c++ or something to make a visual plug in. i was hoping it was more to do with maya or 3d max. i'm in a motion grahpics class and i was hoping that a visual plug in would pull in some extra credit ;P

14th April 2002, 21:36	#9
Stresss Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3	well you see i have a computer in the car that i use to play mp3, but that uses too much to run all day and night, so i'm thinking of getting a car mp3 player like Empeg or something.

15th April 2002, 19:49	#14
Nofx Guy Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: under a rock Posts: 998	ogg all the way.. i encode with cdex and i use a quality of 5.12 .... works out just fine! www.audioflo.ath.cx All music, All the Time

15th April 2002, 19:55	#15
dylman Forum King Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Hawarden Posts: 2,115	I use --alt-preset 160 (ABR 160 kbps) because --alt-preset standard files are too big for me, take too long to encode, and I can't tell the difference anyway. Apparently the next version of LAME will improve the ABR modes, so that's good. There's no need to tell me when I'm right; I operate on that principle exclusively and with absolute certainty

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GoldenSphynx Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,738	Where can i learn basic C/C++ and then move on to higher levels of it?

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