Please Save Me From Realplayer!!!

cde_thomas · 12th May 2002, 21:34

I have recently purchased a fujifilm 50i mp3 player and digital camera. The hardware works great, and is fun to use, but the software really lets it down. It comes with plugins for Realplayer jukebox, which I must say is a truly ugly piece of software.

I was wondering if anyone in the Winamp community would be able to help me out by writing a plugin for Winamp?

PLEASE SAVE ME FROM REALPLAYER!!

apollos · 12th May 2002, 21:55

REALPLAYER SUCKS!!!

Have you not seen the advert on Baafie's website??

/me looks around for Winamp plugins expert.

Well done for not wasting your time with realplayer.
After all, they are just buffering!

cde_thomas · 12th May 2002, 22:53

Inatlantis, thanks for the info. I'm not sure I understand your response though - what is that baafie site? what is /me?

Vie · 12th May 2002, 23:07

/me
is a term for an action taking place in a strange place called the real world I dont go there much now too meny hampsters

eleet-2k2 · 12th May 2002, 23:30

baffie is another user on these forums who shares your hate for RP.

cde_thomas · 12th May 2002, 23:42

At the moment I have to use realplayer to transfer files to my portable mp3 player. It really rips my undies as it is unstable and slow, and as for considering human factors - the programme is so un-usable. So if anyone has suggestions that could help me avoid realplayer, this would be great!

DJ Shredder · 13th May 2002, 00:01

Real is terrible. *shudders*

papadoc · 13th May 2002, 01:01

Tara Plug-in for Winamp to play RealPlayer files.

You need RP's drivers for the plug-in to work so don't uninstall it.
But...go into Real's settings and deselect everything,
to unassociate Real from all media types.

whiteflip · 13th May 2002, 03:58

he doesn't have real player files. he has mp3 files. so that winamp plugin is useless.

in this case i would say a winamp plugin for what your looking for would be useless and would never come. you need a stand alone program or drivers that would make your computer think your mp3 player is like a hard drive or some shit.

windows XP recognizes mp3 players automatically and lets you move files to them like no body's business (ie real) so get that once you check xp compatibility with your mp3 player.

or better yet get a nomad jukebox III. or archos.

Omit Name · 13th May 2002, 05:12

"really rips my undies" wow thats a really good saying thank you very much for sharing. may good fortune find you.

*omit goes off in search of an appropriate situation to say "really rips my undies."

cde_thomas · 13th May 2002, 07:23

Its easy to transfer files onto the SmartMedia memory card. However, to put MP3's onto SmartMedia so that they can be played they need to have an .SVQ header added to the file. This is what Realplayer currently does and why I need someone to write some sort of plugin.

Windows XP does pick up the Fujifilm 50i, and treats it like a removable hard-disk, however, if you transfer files in this manner it does not work as the header is not added.

.SVQ headers are added as a rather stupid security feature to stop illegal copying of mp3s. However, it is completely ineffective as (if you were so inclined) you could still use the mp3 player as a removable disk and distribute files in this manner.

cde_thomas · 13th May 2002, 07:31

Its easy to transfer files onto the SmartMedia memory card. However, to put MP3's onto SmartMedia so that they can be played they need to have an .SVQ header added to the file. This is what Realplayer currently does and why I need someone to write some sort of plugin.

Windows XP does pick up the Fujifilm 50i, and treats it like a removable hard-disk, however, if you transfer files in this manner it does not work as the header is not added.

.SVQ headers are added as a rather stupid security feature to stop illegal copying of mp3s. However, it is completely ineffective as (if you were so inclined) you could still use the mp3 player as a removable disk and distribute files in this manner.

papadoc · 13th May 2002, 13:17

Quote:

Originally posted by whiteflip
he doesn't have real player files. he has mp3 files. so that winamp plugin is useless.

My bad.
I misunderstood what he was asking.
Beam me back up...

apollos · 13th May 2002, 16:04

Quote:

Originally posted by cde_thomas
Inatlantis, thanks for the info. I'm not sure I understand your response though - what is that baafie site? what is /me?

Ok, Baafie's site with the Realplayer thingy (click it)

Baafie's Website

and /me on IRC simply turns out like * Inatlantis
Go on AVS chat and you'll see what I mean.

I found that the movie maker thing built into XP is quite usefull for people like me who get shit software with their webcam.
Its easy to use but id quite like a good program to use too.

Gonzotek · 13th May 2002, 16:13

I've looked all over the net this morning, and it *appears* that the svq format is more than just a header. It actually encrypts each track using the smartmedia card's unique id, using some technology named InfoBind. So basically, I think that unless someone has reverse-engineered the format, or the company has released a standalone verion of the transfer software, you're shit out of luck. Sorry to report that, and let us know if you found out I'm wrong, I'd rather be wrong than right in this case!

-=Gonzotek=-

Creative210 · 13th May 2002, 19:45

Realplayer is really lame. I suppose the streaming G2 is ok,
but over all the Real Player is very UN-Sleak, and is bulky.

prodangle · 13th May 2002, 21:14

My brothers Nokia 5110 worked similarly, and neither of us ever found a way of using it other than with Nokia's el crappo software that came with it. Not as bad as Realplayer though, I feel for you ...

henry3k56 · 13th May 2002, 21:30

Quote:

Originally posted by Creative210
Realplayer is really lame. I suppose the streaming G2 is ok,
but over all the Real Player is very UN-Sleak, and is bulky.

haha. I uninstall every piece of RealPlayer that I come across. School computers mostly. I'll delete that sucker so It doesn't cause any more crashing problems.

whiteflip · 20th May 2002, 00:33

whenever you buy computer hardware peripherals like mp3 players or the sort resarch the software that comes with it cuz it might make a difference.

cde_thomas · 20th May 2002, 02:05

Like I said earlier, the hardware is cool. Works well, has delivered to my expectations, good sound/images etc etc etc.

The units that you mentioned earlier would not have delivered on the aspects of the product that were important in its purchase. It is frustrating that the software lets the hardware down, but in hindsight I don't believe it would have stopped me purchasing it, as there are no other units that I could find that were as suitable for my purposes.

12th May 2002, 21:34	#1
cde_thomas Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6	Please Save Me From Realplayer!!! I have recently purchased a fujifilm 50i mp3 player and digital camera. The hardware works great, and is fun to use, but the software really lets it down. It comes with plugins for Realplayer jukebox, which I must say is a truly ugly piece of software. I was wondering if anyone in the Winamp community would be able to help me out by writing a plugin for Winamp? PLEASE SAVE ME FROM REALPLAYER!!

12th May 2002, 23:07	#4
Vie Forum King Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Thoron fields and Duranium shadows. Posts: Crap mostly Posts: 8,003	/me is a term for an action taking place in a strange place called the real world I dont go there much now too meny hampsters Member most in need of SpellCheck Lifetime Achievement Award I'm a Twitch Streamer these days, it's weird.

12th May 2002, 23:30	#5
eleet-2k2 Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mobil Ave. Posts: 5,381	baffie is another user on these forums who shares your hate for RP. "Welcome to the Island of people who know too much."..."Did you really think balloons would stop him?!" See what I'm listening too.

13th May 2002, 03:58	#9
whiteflip Post Master General (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Seattle, Now Las Vegas Posts: 6,032	he doesn't have real player files. he has mp3 files. so that winamp plugin is useless. in this case i would say a winamp plugin for what your looking for would be useless and would never come. you need a stand alone program or drivers that would make your computer think your mp3 player is like a hard drive or some shit. windows XP recognizes mp3 players automatically and lets you move files to them like no body's business (ie real) so get that once you check xp compatibility with your mp3 player. or better yet get a nomad jukebox III. or archos. I'm Back?

13th May 2002, 16:13	#15
Gonzotek Gunslinger Join Date: May 2000 Location: Terminus Posts: 4,693	I've looked all over the net this morning, and it appears that the svq format is more than just a header. It actually encrypts each track using the smartmedia card's unique id, using some technology named InfoBind. So basically, I think that unless someone has reverse-engineered the format, or the company has released a standalone verion of the transfer software, you're shit out of luck. Sorry to report that, and let us know if you found out I'm wrong, I'd rather be wrong than right in this case! -=Gonzotek=- I was away for a while. But I'm feeling much better now.

12th May 2002, 21:55	#2
apollos Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canterbury & Plymouth Posts: 4,176	REALPLAYER SUCKS!!! Have you not seen the advert on Baafie's website?? /me looks around for Winamp plugins expert. Well done for not wasting your time with realplayer. After all, they are just buffering!

12th May 2002, 22:53	#3
cde_thomas Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6	Inatlantis, thanks for the info. I'm not sure I understand your response though - what is that baafie site? what is /me?

12th May 2002, 23:42	#6
cde_thomas Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6	At the moment I have to use realplayer to transfer files to my portable mp3 player. It really rips my undies as it is unstable and slow, and as for considering human factors - the programme is so un-usable. So if anyone has suggestions that could help me avoid realplayer, this would be great!

13th May 2002, 00:01	#7
DJ Shredder Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Langley, BC, Canada Posts: 255	Real is terrible. shudders

13th May 2002, 01:01	#8
papadoc Comfortably Numb (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 4,619	Tara Plug-in for Winamp to play RealPlayer files. You need RP's drivers for the plug-in to work so don't uninstall it. But...go into Real's settings and deselect everything, to unassociate Real from all media types.

13th May 2002, 05:12	#10
Omit Name mostly harmless Major Dude Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,809	"really rips my undies" wow thats a really good saying thank you very much for sharing. may good fortune find you. *omit goes off in search of an appropriate situation to say "really rips my undies."

13th May 2002, 07:23	#11
cde_thomas Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6	Its easy to transfer files onto the SmartMedia memory card. However, to put MP3's onto SmartMedia so that they can be played they need to have an .SVQ header added to the file. This is what Realplayer currently does and why I need someone to write some sort of plugin. Windows XP does pick up the Fujifilm 50i, and treats it like a removable hard-disk, however, if you transfer files in this manner it does not work as the header is not added. .SVQ headers are added as a rather stupid security feature to stop illegal copying of mp3s. However, it is completely ineffective as (if you were so inclined) you could still use the mp3 player as a removable disk and distribute files in this manner.

13th May 2002, 07:31	#12
cde_thomas Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6	Its easy to transfer files onto the SmartMedia memory card. However, to put MP3's onto SmartMedia so that they can be played they need to have an .SVQ header added to the file. This is what Realplayer currently does and why I need someone to write some sort of plugin. Windows XP does pick up the Fujifilm 50i, and treats it like a removable hard-disk, however, if you transfer files in this manner it does not work as the header is not added. .SVQ headers are added as a rather stupid security feature to stop illegal copying of mp3s. However, it is completely ineffective as (if you were so inclined) you could still use the mp3 player as a removable disk and distribute files in this manner.

13th May 2002, 19:45	#16
Creative210 Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 71	Realplayer is really lame. I suppose the streaming G2 is ok, but over all the Real Player is very UN-Sleak, and is bulky.

13th May 2002, 21:14	#17
prodangle Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Scotland Posts: 718	My brothers Nokia 5110 worked similarly, and neither of us ever found a way of using it other than with Nokia's el crappo software that came with it. Not as bad as Realplayer though, I feel for you ...

20th May 2002, 00:33	#19
whiteflip Post Master General (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Seattle, Now Las Vegas Posts: 6,032	whenever you buy computer hardware peripherals like mp3 players or the sort resarch the software that comes with it cuz it might make a difference. I'm Back?

20th May 2002, 02:05	#20
cde_thomas Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6	Like I said earlier, the hardware is cool. Works well, has delivered to my expectations, good sound/images etc etc etc. The units that you mentioned earlier would not have delivered on the aspects of the product that were important in its purchase. It is frustrating that the software lets the hardware down, but in hindsight I don't believe it would have stopped me purchasing it, as there are no other units that I could find that were as suitable for my purposes.

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