Truancy - Is jailing mothers the solution?

Bilbo Baggins · 13th May 2002, 22:56

We just get more and more fascist by the day. It all started with this:

Blairs benefit cut threat to parents.

Now while I am sure that in some cases, the parents may be to blame, in most cases it is the kids at fault because they are either too lazy to bother with school, or the schools are so awful that they do not learn anything anyway.

Now we move into this: Mother jailed for truant kids. Surely it is not right to remove the mother (arguably the single most important person in a childs life - no matter what their age) from the home?

Any thoughts?

GoldenSphynx · 13th May 2002, 22:59

im too lazy to read the article but from what i can conclude its not right for this to be happening

Vie · 13th May 2002, 23:05

I'm for it! If you have ever been through stonehouse at 12O'Clock at night? there are still todlers going round amid the Drugdealers, Rapists, Murderes and so on do you know what the moms do? sit at home waching TV! most of the kids havent had a full days education in there lives and what example are their parents? BAD ones

QHOBBES · 14th May 2002, 00:03

FUCK no! If the mom is in jail how is she suppose to make her kids
goto school?!?! Everytime my dad misses work his boss doesnt call me
up and bitch over the phone asking "Where is you father? Why isn't he
at school? You wanna goto to jail over this, bitch?!"

Xerxes · 14th May 2002, 00:32

They should allow the parent to make a choice: Either the kid goes to Juvinile Hall for some time or the Parent is incarcerated. A very hard decision for most parents to make.

fwgx · 14th May 2002, 00:36

I've never really understood why kids hate school so much. I really didn't like it but that's because I was bullied constantly. The lessons and stuff were ok though. There's a thought that school and learning is somehow un-cool and geeky. The only way your going to get these kids to goto school is to make them WANT to goto school (don't ask me how). The parents send them off to the bus but can't be held responsible for what they do then, truent or whatever. Jailing the parent wont do anything until they get out and kick the shit out of the kids for putting through that. I guess they'll go after a good kicking

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binary hero · 14th May 2002, 13:57

I reckon that it is wrong, but something needs to be done. Maybe a criminal record and going to jail for 60 days is a bit too much. I reckon blair has been playing too much monopoly:

Quote:

Go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect £($)200

Curi0us_George · 14th May 2002, 15:10

I don't know what the answer is, but I don't think that's it.

dylman · 14th May 2002, 19:06

Apparently those girls went to school today.

c2R · 14th May 2002, 19:42

My solution wouldn't be to take child benefit away from kids that didn't go to school, but to give it as a reward for those children who did go.

There's some council kids moved into a house round the corner from me - mother's single and doesn't work, so they're obviously claiming every benefit under the sun. The kids don't go to school, but hang around the village all day graffiting on everything and breaking road signs as well as trespassing on other people's property while they're at work.

Before anyone says anything about it not being them... it's obviously them as there's only about 30 houses in the village, and the problem started when they moved in.

Taking their benefits away might work, but if it doesn't then I don't think the mother should go to prison, but she's obviously not a good mother and should have the children removed from her care, otherwise the kids are going to be layabouts too (as they certainly aren't learning how to become a productive part of society by not going to school), and I and taxpayers like me will end up supporting them forever.

kljs · 14th May 2002, 19:55

Jailing is a bit harsh....

It might not be the mother's fault. I think some counselling is better than jailing.

Just a thought.

apollos · 14th May 2002, 20:56

Well all know this is another thing that Blair is trying to get votes over. How lame...

I mean, even he knows that this is all shit and wouldn't work..
What a lamer...

excracked · 15th May 2002, 00:57

On the one hand i think it is wrong to send the parent to jail.
coz of the kids, surley there must be another way of making the kids go to school and still be able to see their parent, i.e if truancy is kept up with, then a weekly boarding school until the kids sort it out.
Time out from bad parents may influence the children into the right way about things at a young age. The bad parents are hardly likly to learn anything new, (cant teach an old dog new tricks),(not without a lot of hard work!) Take a look at prison offenders they generally go back and forth for most of their days. If you take the parent away then that is most likely the way the child will go also. Unless the child was traumatised into always doing things right from then on.
Shock treatment dont always work. Help is more the thing thats needed not punishment i conclude.

13th May 2002, 22:56	#1
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,231	Truancy - Is jailing mothers the solution? We just get more and more fascist by the day. It all started with this: Blairs benefit cut threat to parents. Now while I am sure that in some cases, the parents may be to blame, in most cases it is the kids at fault because they are either too lazy to bother with school, or the schools are so awful that they do not learn anything anyway. Now we move into this: Mother jailed for truant kids. Surely it is not right to remove the mother (arguably the single most important person in a childs life - no matter what their age) from the home? Any thoughts?

13th May 2002, 23:05	#3
Vie Forum King Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Thoron fields and Duranium shadows. Posts: Crap mostly Posts: 7,960	I'm for it! If you have ever been through stonehouse at 12O'Clock at night? there are still todlers going round amid the Drugdealers, Rapists, Murderes and so on do you know what the moms do? sit at home waching TV! most of the kids havent had a full days education in there lives and what example are their parents? BAD ones Member most in need of SpellCheck Lifetime Achievement Award Vie's Scratching Post

14th May 2002, 00:36	#6
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,315	I've never really understood why kids hate school so much. I really didn't like it but that's because I was bullied constantly. The lessons and stuff were ok though. There's a thought that school and learning is somehow un-cool and geeky. The only way your going to get these kids to goto school is to make them WANT to goto school (don't ask me how). The parents send them off to the bus but can't be held responsible for what they do then, truent or whatever. Jailing the parent wont do anything until they get out and kick the shit out of the kids for putting through that. I guess they'll go after a good kicking . .: fwgx.co.uk.:.My art:. "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

14th May 2002, 15:10	#8
Curi0us_George Forum King Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: -1 Posts: 5,179	I don't know what the answer is, but I don't think that's it. For the freedom to express myself in my own way without fear of being censored or banned. 47 65 6C 61 65 64 2E 63 6F 6D 00

14th May 2002, 19:06	#9
dylman Forum King Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Hawarden Posts: 2,115	Apparently those girls went to school today. There's no need to tell me when I'm right; I operate on that principle exclusively and with absolute certainty

13th May 2002, 22:59	#2
GoldenSphynx Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,738	im too lazy to read the article but from what i can conclude its not right for this to be happening

14th May 2002, 00:03	#4
QHOBBES Banned Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: I H8 Mods Posts: 1,405	FUCK no! If the mom is in jail how is she suppose to make her kids goto school?!?! Everytime my dad misses work his boss doesnt call me up and bitch over the phone asking "Where is you father? Why isn't he at school? You wanna goto to jail over this, bitch?!"

14th May 2002, 00:32	#5
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,687	They should allow the parent to make a choice: Either the kid goes to Juvinile Hall for some time or the Parent is incarcerated. A very hard decision for most parents to make.

14th May 2002, 19:42	#10
c2R Stereotype? (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ware, England Posts: 3,511	My solution wouldn't be to take child benefit away from kids that didn't go to school, but to give it as a reward for those children who did go. There's some council kids moved into a house round the corner from me - mother's single and doesn't work, so they're obviously claiming every benefit under the sun. The kids don't go to school, but hang around the village all day graffiting on everything and breaking road signs as well as trespassing on other people's property while they're at work. Before anyone says anything about it not being them... it's obviously them as there's only about 30 houses in the village, and the problem started when they moved in. Taking their benefits away might work, but if it doesn't then I don't think the mother should go to prison, but she's obviously not a good mother and should have the children removed from her care, otherwise the kids are going to be layabouts too (as they certainly aren't learning how to become a productive part of society by not going to school), and I and taxpayers like me will end up supporting them forever. lights out for darker skies # forums.winamp.com boinc team # tms

14th May 2002, 19:55	#11
kljs Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kulim,Kedah,Malaysia Posts: 645	Jailing is a bit harsh.... It might not be the mother's fault. I think some counselling is better than jailing. Just a thought. I am just a normal person sitting on the bench and reading newspaper and having a cup of coffee. Why can't people see that?

14th May 2002, 20:56	#12
apollos Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canterbury & Plymouth Posts: 4,176	Well all know this is another thing that Blair is trying to get votes over. How lame... I mean, even he knows that this is all shit and wouldn't work.. What a lamer...

15th May 2002, 00:57	#13
excracked Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: down a hole with an owl. Posts: 443	On the one hand i think it is wrong to send the parent to jail. coz of the kids, surley there must be another way of making the kids go to school and still be able to see their parent, i.e if truancy is kept up with, then a weekly boarding school until the kids sort it out. Time out from bad parents may influence the children into the right way about things at a young age. The bad parents are hardly likly to learn anything new, (cant teach an old dog new tricks),(not without a lot of hard work!) Take a look at prison offenders they generally go back and forth for most of their days. If you take the parent away then that is most likely the way the child will go also. Unless the child was traumatised into always doing things right from then on. Shock treatment dont always work. Help is more the thing thats needed not punishment i conclude. "You eat stuff you find in the catbox, you degenerate, pustule sucking, llama jumping, aberrant promulgator of an entomologist with carnal knowledge of cockroaches." Abuse'o'Tron [img]http://excracked.***********/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures//esig.png[/img] PhotoBlitz Entmoot Foggy Racing

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