Is Microsoft even worse than we thought?

eleet-2k2 · 1st June 2002, 12:51

http://money.cnn.com/2002/05/30/comm...nsky/index.htm

Came across this while perusing CNN.

Vie · 1st June 2002, 15:08

is the pope catholic?
do bears have inadiquate toilet facilitys?

QHOBBES · 1st June 2002, 18:41

one answer for M$, Swiss bank accounts with Jewish accounatants!
Bring on XP sp 1!

liquidmotion · 2nd June 2002, 01:29

i love MS, they fill my life with joy.

insomniac · 2nd June 2002, 07:36

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Originally posted by Vie
is the pope catholic?
do bears have inadiquate toilet facilitys?

Is Vie being a smartass?

Am I just kidding? no

DarkRaven · 2nd June 2002, 08:49

Nah, this is nothing to worry about. What you should be worrying about is how Bill Gates has put a little program in your computer that monitors your actions, sending a list of them monthly (those monthly windows updates) to a big compilation computer, which he in turns sends to the FBI, who takes the top 100 people who download more illegal programs/files than anyone else in the world, arrests them, and then moves down the list until Bill Gates says, "ok, that's enough, the rest of them consume more of my products than they steal from the music/movie association." THAT's what you should be worried about!

Bilbo Baggins · 2nd June 2002, 09:00

Prove it.

Vie · 2nd June 2002, 09:52

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Originally posted by Insomniac7891

Is Vie being a smartass?
Am I just kidding? no

I am the forum smartass! have you only just noticed!?!?!?

patroclus22 · 2nd June 2002, 11:01

From an accounting perspective, what Microsoft is doing to its earnings is permissible, though frowned upon. When MS has a bad year, that should be reflected in their financials, not bolstered into an average year because of profit reserves. And when they have an outstanding year, that should be reflected too.

apollos · 2nd June 2002, 11:21

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Originally posted by Vie

I am the forum dumbass! have you only just noticed!?!?!?

*Edited slightly*

jokin

eleet-2k2 · 2nd June 2002, 12:28

They probably do have offshore bank accounts.

Thanks for the accounting perspective Patroclus.

THats enough out of the smart ass.

j/k

Curi0us_George · 3rd June 2002, 19:43

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Originally posted by DarkRaven
Nah, this is nothing to worry about. What you should be worrying about is how Bill Gates has put a little program in your computer that monitors your actions, sending a list of them monthly (those monthly windows updates) to a big compilation computer, which he in turns sends to the FBI, who takes the top 100 people who download more illegal programs/files than anyone else in the world, arrests them, and then moves down the list until Bill Gates says, "ok, that's enough, the rest of them consume more of my products than they steal from the music/movie association." THAT's what you should be worried about!

That's a load of speculative crap. It would have reached the media if people were being arrested for crap like that. The data transfer would have been found by one of the more security-conscious freaks.

That whole rant of yours is crap. I don't know if you made it up or if someone spoonfed it to you, but the chances of it being true are somewhere around zero.

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Originally posted by 31337-2k2
They probably do have offshore bank accounts.

Possible, but I'd imagine that most of their liquid assets are in US banks, where they can get it quickly in a pinch.

Now, if I were Bill Gates, I would have a large chuck of my own personal cash pile stocked away somewhere overseas. The US govn't can really screw you if it decides it wants to freeze your assets. I'd make sure it couldn't affect me too greatly.

eleet-2k2 · 3rd June 2002, 20:13

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Originally posted by Curi0us_George

I'd make sure it couldn't affect me too greatly.

Exactly. But if most of his cash is in off-shore accounts, does the US have the right to cease trasactions?

henry3k56 · 3rd June 2002, 20:54

Interesting.
And I thought Microsoft was well planned out financially.

kljs · 4th June 2002, 02:51

Micro$oft sucks!

DarkRaven · 4th June 2002, 03:32

I don't know, the MPA (Movie Pictures Association) could have gone to the FBI and said "hey, look what kids can do with DIVX! Save us FBI!" and so the FBI goes to Microsoft and says "Hey, people are using your product for illegal purposes!" and Microsoft goes, "Ok, we'll take care of that for you, but u gotta make sure u don't take all of our customers!" I know that using those quotes makes me sound like a kid, but more or less . . . it's not 0% proabability damn it, don't totally dismiss it, i don't mind if you disagree, but never dismiss these kinds of possibilities, I mean, it's not TOTALLY impossible.

henry3k56 · 4th June 2002, 04:52

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Originally posted by DarkRaven
I don't know, the MPA (Movie Pictures Association) could have gone to the FBI and said "hey, look what kids can do with DIVX! Save us FBI!" and so the FBI goes to Microsoft and says "Hey, people are using your product for illegal purposes!" and Microsoft goes, "Ok, we'll take care of that for you, but u gotta make sure u don't take all of our customers!" I know that using those quotes makes me sound like a kid, but more or less . . . it's not 0% proabability damn it, don't totally dismiss it, i don't mind if you disagree, but never dismiss these kinds of possibilities, I mean, it's not TOTALLY impossible.

As long as you're not reselling the stuff, then its not 100% illegal.

Curi0us_George · 4th June 2002, 16:21

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkRaven
I don't know, the MPA (Movie Pictures Association) could have gone to the FBI and said "hey, look what kids can do with DIVX! Save us FBI!" and so the FBI goes to Microsoft and says "Hey, people are using your product for illegal purposes!" and Microsoft goes, "Ok, we'll take care of that for you, but u gotta make sure u don't take all of our customers!" I know that using those quotes makes me sound like a kid, but more or less . . . it's not 0% proabability damn it, don't totally dismiss it, i don't mind if you disagree, but never dismiss these kinds of possibilities, I mean, it's not TOTALLY impossible.

It's not 100% impossible that 3 inch tall purple aliens are in control of the MPAA, but it's pretty damned close, so it's not worth wasting the time speculating.

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Originally posted by 31337-2k2
Exactly. But if most of his cash is in off-shore accounts, does the US have the right to cease trasactions?

The US can't freeze his off-shore assets, if that's what you mean. If it's in another country, in is out of the U.S.'s jurisdiction. It's possible that the foreign country's government my help, but I wouldn't bet on it.

If he has a numbered account in Switzerland, then the US couldn't freeze his assets even if Switzerland were willing to cooperate. Those accounts are anonymous.

Mr. 75MHz · 19th June 2002, 14:18

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Originally posted by Vie

I am the forum smartass! have you only just noticed!?!?!?

I have just noticed that

Vie · 19th June 2002, 14:24

oh dear lod you are slow

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patroclus22 Major Dude Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hammond, IN Posts: 1,130	From an accounting perspective, what Microsoft is doing to its earnings is permissible, though frowned upon. When MS has a bad year, that should be reflected in their financials, not bolstered into an average year because of profit reserves. And when they have an outstanding year, that should be reflected too. Flypaper for the walking wounded since 1997

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eleet-2k2 Forum King Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Mobil Ave. Posts: 5,381	They probably do have offshore bank accounts. Thanks for the accounting perspective Patroclus. THats enough out of the smart ass. j/k "Welcome to the Island of people who know too much."..."Did you really think balloons would stop him?!" See what I'm listening too.

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QHOBBES Banned Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: I H8 Mods Posts: 1,405	one answer for M$, Swiss bank accounts with Jewish accounatants! Bring on XP sp 1!

2nd June 2002, 08:49	#6
DarkRaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 32	Nah, this is nothing to worry about. What you should be worrying about is how Bill Gates has put a little program in your computer that monitors your actions, sending a list of them monthly (those monthly windows updates) to a big compilation computer, which he in turns sends to the FBI, who takes the top 100 people who download more illegal programs/files than anyone else in the world, arrests them, and then moves down the list until Bill Gates says, "ok, that's enough, the rest of them consume more of my products than they steal from the music/movie association." THAT's what you should be worried about!

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Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,228	Prove it.

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henry3k56 Forum King Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Internet Posts: 3 Trillion Posts: 4,241	Interesting. And I thought Microsoft was well planned out financially. henry3k56 \| Summer is here. My Flickr Page & Frontierra \| Posting Since September 2001.

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kljs Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kulim,Kedah,Malaysia Posts: 645	Micro$oft sucks! I am just a normal person sitting on the bench and reading newspaper and having a cup of coffee. Why can't people see that?

4th June 2002, 03:32	#16
DarkRaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 32	I don't know, the MPA (Movie Pictures Association) could have gone to the FBI and said "hey, look what kids can do with DIVX! Save us FBI!" and so the FBI goes to Microsoft and says "Hey, people are using your product for illegal purposes!" and Microsoft goes, "Ok, we'll take care of that for you, but u gotta make sure u don't take all of our customers!" I know that using those quotes makes me sound like a kid, but more or less . . . it's not 0% proabability damn it, don't totally dismiss it, i don't mind if you disagree, but never dismiss these kinds of possibilities, I mean, it's not TOTALLY impossible.

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Vie Forum King Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Thoron fields and Duranium shadows. Posts: Crap mostly Posts: 8,003	oh dear lod you are slow Member most in need of SpellCheck Lifetime Achievement Award I'm a Twitch Streamer these days, it's weird.

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