Discussion Topic: When inspiration turns identical

XePhorce · 4th June 2002, 22:15

I'm often times inspired by others works when I try to make something of my own, I do my work, I'm not satisfied by it because I feel like I've copied someone else's work with out the intention of doing so.
I feel like I can never create anything unique. This has been a major problem of mine for quit some time right now.

What are everyone's opion on when inspiration goes to plagerism?
Be it web designing to skinning winamp3

pixiefied · 4th June 2002, 22:22

the one who patents it first .......WINS!

XePhorce · 4th June 2002, 22:40

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Originally posted by pixiefied
the one who patents it first .......WINS!

I am looking more for some Discussion oriented reply.

J. Burnaway · 4th June 2002, 23:38

Well, it's really impossible to do something totally unique. Everything is influenced, knowingly or unknowingly, but other things you have seen or experienced. Every single band you hear has been influenced by other bands, but I think you can tell who is coming up with good stuff, and who is ripping someone off.
With winamp 3, every skin coming out now is round (well, many of them). So I can't make a round skin? Sure I can.
I guess there is some fine line between inspiration and plagarism, and everyone sees that line in a different place. You are probably being to hard on yourself.

Bilbo Baggins · 4th June 2002, 23:41

Some people would be very flattered if you chose to use their work as inspiration for your own, and their influence could plainly be seen in your work. It would not necessarily be copying.

XePhorce · 4th June 2002, 23:50

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Originally posted by J. Burnaway
You are probably being to hard on yourself.

Any solutions how I could ease this?

Bilbo Baggins · 4th June 2002, 23:53

Lubrication.

ujay · 5th June 2002, 00:05

Take advantage of history. If we do not learn from what has gone before, we are condemned to make the same mistakes.

Everything has developed from what has gone before, and even the most startling of discoveries can be traced back to a common pool of ideas, When asked how he saw the solution to celestial mechanics, Newton replied 'If I have seen further it is from standing on the shoulders of giants'

You are as free to dip into this same pool of ideas as any other, it is as much your heritage as anyone elses.

It's what you create that counts, just don't stop trying

UJ

XePhorce · 5th June 2002, 00:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Bilbo Baggins
Lubrication.

...is for wimps.

Sandman2012 · 5th June 2002, 05:27

Well, I'm a writer and it's pretty clear in fiction when something is plagerized. As for copying vs. inspiration I suppose with any medium it would be question of whether or not you are taking the thing that inspired you and exploring new territory or adding something new to it. Otherwise you are probably just re-hashing the same old thing.

pixiefied · 5th June 2002, 06:09

pixiefied · 5th June 2002, 06:14

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Originally posted by XePhorce

...is for wimps.

*shutters*at the thought of the caloses on his d***

binary hero · 5th June 2002, 15:35

the best way to learn is by example, and if you don't make a 100% copy, then it isn't plagarisim.

Xerxes · 5th June 2002, 15:53

There is only so many things you can do on a 2-D surface...

I say, create a niche in whtever you do, make it popular, and guard it like a hawk.

Curi0us_George · 5th June 2002, 16:05

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Originally posted by binary hero
if you don't make a 100% copy, then it isn't plagarisim.

That's a long way from true. When you paraphrase, that's still plagiarism. When you steal a concept, that's plagiarism. If it's not your work, then it's plagiarism.

P.S. This is assuming that you don't give proper credits, of course.

4th June 2002, 22:15	#1
XePhorce Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 29	Discussion Topic: When inspiration turns identical I'm often times inspired by others works when I try to make something of my own, I do my work, I'm not satisfied by it because I feel like I've copied someone else's work with out the intention of doing so. I feel like I can never create anything unique. This has been a major problem of mine for quit some time right now. What are everyone's opion on when inspiration goes to plagerism? Be it web designing to skinning winamp3

4th June 2002, 22:22	#2
pixiefied Mother Trucker Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: in the forest Posts: 3,493	the one who patents it first .......WINS! "Well, got to love you and leave you, need to go get into the shower and rub my hard naked body all over with soapy bubbles, I'll be back later to carry on playing.... It'll take you some time to get over the image of me naked in the shower......mind you don't masturbate to hard thinking about it...." - Mr.Jones

5th June 2002, 00:05	#8
ujay Forum King Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London Posts: 5,997	Take advantage of history. If we do not learn from what has gone before, we are condemned to make the same mistakes. Everything has developed from what has gone before, and even the most startling of discoveries can be traced back to a common pool of ideas, When asked how he saw the solution to celestial mechanics, Newton replied 'If I have seen further it is from standing on the shoulders of giants' You are as free to dip into this same pool of ideas as any other, it is as much your heritage as anyone elses. It's what you create that counts, just don't stop trying UJ Last edited by ujay; 5th June 2002 at 00:21.

5th June 2002, 05:27	#10
Sandman2012 <3 foobar2k (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,202	Well, I'm a writer and it's pretty clear in fiction when something is plagerized. As for copying vs. inspiration I suppose with any medium it would be question of whether or not you are taking the thing that inspired you and exploring new territory or adding something new to it. Otherwise you are probably just re-hashing the same old thing. pabook.net

5th June 2002, 06:09	#11
pixiefied Mother Trucker Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: in the forest Posts: 3,493	"Well, got to love you and leave you, need to go get into the shower and rub my hard naked body all over with soapy bubbles, I'll be back later to carry on playing.... It'll take you some time to get over the image of me naked in the shower......mind you don't masturbate to hard thinking about it...." - Mr.Jones

4th June 2002, 23:38	#4
J. Burnaway Forum King Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 2,537	Well, it's really impossible to do something totally unique. Everything is influenced, knowingly or unknowingly, but other things you have seen or experienced. Every single band you hear has been influenced by other bands, but I think you can tell who is coming up with good stuff, and who is ripping someone off. With winamp 3, every skin coming out now is round (well, many of them). So I can't make a round skin? Sure I can. I guess there is some fine line between inspiration and plagarism, and everyone sees that line in a different place. You are probably being to hard on yourself.

4th June 2002, 23:41	#5
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,231	Some people would be very flattered if you chose to use their work as inspiration for your own, and their influence could plainly be seen in your work. It would not necessarily be copying.

4th June 2002, 23:53	#7
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,231	Lubrication.

5th June 2002, 15:35	#13
binary hero Banned Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 7,004	the best way to learn is by example, and if you don't make a 100% copy, then it isn't plagarisim.

5th June 2002, 15:53	#14
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,687	There is only so many things you can do on a 2-D surface... I say, create a niche in whtever you do, make it popular, and guard it like a hawk.

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