FIRE!!!!! .... errrr... WALL!!!!!!!!

[SNYder]

got cable.

best software firewall?

do tell.

[edit] comments on WHY you suggest a certain fireWALL would be appriciated.

[FesterHead]

Zone Alarm

[ctn|chrisw]

You should really get a hardware firewall for maximum protection

[SNYder]

Originally posted by cmw6988
You should really get a hardware firewall for maximum protection

i should, but im not. just want to keep out the little pesky hackers who feel like being a buncha bitches. and mabey some serious hackers.

or should i say, crackers.

[ctn|chrisw]

well then get zone alarm

[SNYder]

FEEEAR IS HOOOOW I FAAAAAAAALL! CONFUUUUSSING WHAAAT ISSS REEEEAAAAAAAL...AAAAAAAAAL! DA DA DA DA DA DAAAA DAAAA DA DA DA DA DA....

[ctn|chrisw]

koo koo, koo koo, koo koo

Did those men in white coats come and put you in a straight jacket yet synder?

[SNYder]

yeah. we have a t3 line at the hospital.

[ctn|chrisw]

LOL

[SNYder]

as for the firewall... i'd like to have everyone give their input, cause i know, there aint just ONE firewall that is good. and each have good aspects and bad aspects.

[n_ick2000]

Well, before I got a hardware firewall, I used Norton Personal Firewall. It worked fine.

[SNYder]

well then... what do hardware firewalls run for? and what are some good ones?

[ctn|chrisw]

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=hardware+firewalls

[Bilbo Baggins]

I use (and recommend) Norton Personal Firewall.

[Khaine]

Well actually the best firewall depends on the amount of knowledge you have on the apps you use and what ports the use to access the internet. If you have little or no knowledge then use Zone Alarm or *buy* the upgrade Zone Alarm Plus (Their is a pro version but it contains ad blocking stuff that is known to cause alot of trouble with some sites) or Sysgate Personal Pro. If you feel that you know enogh about your programs to make a tight ruleset or are willing to ask around then you can try Kerio and Atguard. Both offer far more control, instead of letting IE access the net, you can make it only access port 80 or only your isp's proxy server etc

Also read this stuff, and go to the websites and check your "stealth" rating

What is a Firewall ???
http://grc.com/su-firewalls.htm read here to find out

What Firewall Should I use ???
Well this really depends on what level of knowledge you have about computers. If you have little knowledge I would suggest Zone Alarm Pro, or Sygate. If you have intemediate knowledge I would suggest Sygate, Kerio, or Atguard (NIS), and if your a guru you can use whatever, but I would suggest Kerio, or Atguard


If you have any problems these boards are a great place to ask for help

http://www.hostboard.com/cgi-bin/ult...bb=forum&f=385

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/kerio

Latest Versions

Kerio - 2.14 get it here http://download.kerio.com/dwn/kpf2-win.exe

Zone Alarm Pro - 3.0124 something http://www.zonelabs.com/download/index.html

Sygate Personal Firewall Pro - 5 http://soho.sygate.com/products/pspf_ov.htm

Atguard - 3.11 - ftp://ftp.tu-graz.ac.at/pub/mirror/....rd/atgd322.exe

Can I Use 2 Firewalls at the Same Time ???
The simple answer to this is yes you can, however this can also be dangerous as the 2 firewalls can interfere with each other and screw your system up real good. Some example of 2 firewalls running well together are:

Atguard and Kerio - I'm currently running this and it works well, Atguard accesses the tcp stack higher than kerio so the don't interfere

Black Ice Defender and anything - BID is an IDS not a firewall so it works well with anything

Scan Sites
List of Sites
http://balder.prohosting.com/~bud01/scan.html

Shields-UP!
http://grc.com/default.htm

WinNuke Test Page
http://www.jtan.com/resources/winnuke.html

Hacker Whacker
http://hackerwhacker.com/

Secure-Me/DSLreports
http://www.secure-me.net/

Sygate
http://scan.sygatetech.com/

E-SOFT/SecuritySpace.com
http://www.securityspace.com/smysecure/index.html

Secure Design
http://www.sdesign.com/securitytest/index.html

myCIO.com
http://www.mycio.com/content/security/cybercop.asp

Java Port Scanner by Ken Kalish
http://www.mycgiserver.com/~kalish/

Remote Security Tester by Ken Kalish
http://www.mycgiserver.com/~kalish/

Security-Port-Scanvon by NetScreen Technologies
http://www2.netscreen.com/pub/scan/

Whitehats Free DDOS Testing Service
http://dev.whitehats.com/scan/ddos/ddos.html

Online Trojan Port Scanner (Lockdown?)
http://onlinescanner.com/

Sybergen Online-Security-Check
http://www.sybergen.com/products/prescan1.htm

Sandbox Security Test Suite
http://www.sandboxsecurity.com/SecurityTest/

WebTrends
http://www.webtrends.net/tools/security/scan.asp

Virtual Suicide
http://suicide.netfarmers.net/

Personal Security Scanner ;-)
http://server142.smartbotpro.net/camera/

Security Space
https://secure1.securityspace.com/smysecure/index.html

ibh - Ingenieurbuero Holger Heimann; Germany
http://www.it-sec.de/vulchk.html

Hochschule Rapperswil, Swizerland, im Auftrag des
Datenschutzbeauftragten des Kantons Zuerich
http://www.ita.hsr.ch/cgi-bin/datens..._test_start.pl

Adiscon QuickCheck for Clients, Germany
http://www.exchange-antivirus.de/Sec...ck/default.asp

Anti-Trojan.net, Germany
http://www.anti-trojan.net/

Quick-Test by sicher-surfen.de, Germany
http://www.sicher-surfen.de/cgi-bin/index.pl

The Apostols
http://apostols.org/tools.html

QuickInspector for the Web by Shavlik Technologies
http://security.shavlik.com/

Browser-Check bei heise online (Germany)
http://www.heise.de/ct/browsercheck/

crypto.yashy.com
http://crypto.yashy.com/

http://www.securitymetrics.com/securitytests.adp

I hope that helps, if you need any more info just give me a yell

[whiteflip]

zone alarm is free unless you pro upgrade it. norton is awesome from what my dads ultra smart computer savvy friend says. i use a free zone alarm with a hardware firewall.

get a router with built in fire wall. its like 40 dollars.

[SSJ4 Gogitta]

I recomend @Guard (At Guard)

[eleet-2k2]

Originally posted by SNYder
yeah. we have a t3 line at the hospital.

The funny things is that the hospital that i volunteer at relly does have a OC 3 connection! Too bad though the admins proxies block people from accessing a lot of sites. Oh well, winamp works.

A good firewall would be a router with built in firewall technology, but on the software side of things, ZoneAlarm, TinyPersonal Firewall 3.0 (free version I believe is 2.0), or BlackICE. Sorry about the links, just go to www.download.com to find them.

[edit]
Whiteflip: the router if it's any good would not be $40 in Canadian or American currency. If you want a good firewall router, go with D-Link (I recommend the DI-704P router, excellent it's only ~$120 Canadian, or $50-60 US) or a Linksys router.
[/edit]

[whiteflip]

wtf? i have a linksys router. the prices you are suggesting are four port wireless configurations!

he needs a one port standard 10/100 ethernet firewall/router. linksys makes one for 40USD. not like hes building a home network. if he is then up it 20 dollars to get a dsl/cable firewall 4port router with switch.

[deathazre]

there is an advantage to using software firewalls, they can tell what application is sending/recieving information. I've had good experience with Norton Personal Firewall, as you can completely customize the rules. Unfortunately, I have a cheap SMC router, and I can't use a firewall with it, or the damn thing won't work.

[laz]

Go with ZoneAlarm 2.6
I have 3 but it easts up too much memory. And most of the stuff is pointless, ad blockings blows, cookie blocking is pointless, email porotection is not needed if you have norton system works 2k2

For ad blocking go w/ "The Proxomitron" free, has an ass load of easy configs, lets you make your own (needs programing knowlage), and is FREE! + it has all the power of one you pay for, and is even better. (note I am not being payed to say that, or am I assosiated w/ them in any way)

[henry3k56]

BlackICE anyone?
Ofcourse I haven't used it, but my friends have said its a pretty good firewall for about 30-40 dollars.

[eleet-2k2]

Originally posted by henry3k56
BlackICE anyone?
Ofcourse I haven't used it, but my friends have said its a pretty good firewall for about 30-40 dollars.

I used to use it full version for 0 dollars. Good little app.

[dashrike]

yeah go with the zonealarm ones. theyre pretty good, and cheap too

[fish]

Tiny Personal Firewall

[ProneaX]

I would recommend a hardware router, I have one (not posting model # tho ) I got it for about 50 bucks with a rebate or sale or something, which is only a little more than software firewalls cost. A Hardware firewall is in many ways 'safer' than a software firewall, mostly because there are low-level entry points into windows below the TCP/IP level that can be exploited by some. The only disadvantage to a hardware firewall is internal access (at least mine can't do this)--> if you want to be able to block programs on your computer from accessing the internet, I would suggest Norton Personal Firewall. Very protective of app's internet access, sometimes too protective if you don't configure it correctly.

[LawnGnome2005]

Originally posted by phisherman
Tiny Personal Firewall

Thats my favorite

[whiteflip]

combine a hardware firewall with a zonealarm. like wearing two condoms.

[tiger84]

you know this isn't that big of a deal, for a personal computer connected through a cable modem, you need nothing more than Zone Alarm. You don't need a hardware firewall or expensive software. The most important thing is to hide your computer by closing all unused ports which Zone Alarm does and it is fairly easy to use. Don't make too much of a big deal out of it.

[whiteflip]

zone alarm is still hackable. it hides unused ports yes but hackers can still get in through open ports. hardware is best. almost impossible unless you configure it wrong.

[tiger84]

Lets get one thing straight first...hackers aren't a problem, it's crackers you should be worried about.

Also, the reason you don't need hardware protection is a simple matter of mathematics. First think about how many potential targets there are for a cracker, and two think about how much of a waste of time it would be to hack through zone alarm on a personal computer that really has nothing of much interest.

[ctn|chrisw]

its easier to get hardware because all you have to do is plug it in, set it up, and leave it. Plus it wont eat any memory off your computer

[rm']

Yet they still do it... subseven is useless on a server with no videocard installed, and in which nobody is paying any real attention to the desktop.

[tiger84]

Zone Alarm only uses 5 - 6 K of memory on my machine and I have 256 megs

[Scar Da Kookee]

Oh yeah! I HAVE NO FIREWALL AND NO ANTI VIRUAL APP WITH A CABLE ISP!

MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


wait thats bad...

but im doing it on porpose, im just wiating til i have a real reason to reformat...

[whiteflip]

i hate anti virus programs. take up too many resources. when i get a ghz speed PC i will consider paying for one.

if only they made hardware antivirus detectors like they make hardware firewalls

[tiger84]

that would be great if they made hardware virus scanners...thanks, now I really want one.

[SNYder]

that would be cool i'd get one.

oh and thanks everyone for the feedback. it is muchly appriciated.

[SNYder]

Originally posted by tiger84
Lets get one thing straight first...hackers aren't a problem, it's crackers you should be worried about.

Also, the reason you don't need hardware protection is a simple matter of mathematics. First think about how many potential targets there are for a cracker, and two think about how much of a waste of time it would be to hack through zone alarm on a personal computer that really has nothing of much interest.

sometimes peeple hack just for the sake of pissing other off.

[tiger84]

If you hack someone to piss them off, that would be considered cracking (personal gain ohter than knowledge).