Watch Out! Here comes the CENTER channel!

polarix · 16th January 2003, 05:41

Looking for 5.1 music with those spiffy new Klipsches? (Or should I say Logitechs now that they have a great 5.1?) I know I was. For almost a year. And it was driving me crazy.

The other posts I saw all said something along the lines of "It's music, it's only supposed to be in two channels stoopid!". Well that's not my opinion. I bought these speakers for 6, not 2 channels.

Now, I have an Audigy on Windows XP (Gasp). I upgraded everything and it still didn't have center channel audio, except on DVDs and stuff that was 'supposed' to have more than 2 channels. This was ok, but I was getting just crazy. Here goes what I did:

First Step:
Follow everything in this thread.
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=72515

Second Step:
Get the A3d emulation here...
http://www.3dsoundsurge.com/drivers/utils.html
Or a direct link to the file:
http://www.3dss.com/files/a2ddrivers312.exe

Third Step:
Here's the key component...
An A3D audio mixer for Winamp 2! GOGOGO!
http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=63231

For those who feel like ultra configuring it, I am using a scheme as follows:
Master: 1.25 m, 0 degrees, 30 degrees, 1 gain, 1 equalization
Channel 1: 1.00 m, -90 degrees, 0 degrees, 1 gain, 1 equalization
Channel 2: 1.00 m, 90 degrees, 0 degrees, 1 gain, 1 equalization
Channel 3: 1.00 m, -135 degrees, 0 degrees, 1 gain, 1 equalization
Channel 4: 1.00 m, 135 degrees, 0 degrees, 1 gain, 1 equalization

This is making me happy. Quite happy. Hope it helps!

Greg

counterstrike · 16th January 2003, 12:45

will this work for winamp3?

binary hero · 16th January 2003, 12:54

counterstrike - no.

or you can just rip your audio to ogg vorbis which has 5.1 channel support

GaBMaTrIx · 29th January 2003, 14:46

I would be very interested to hear other members opinions about this alternative output for Winamp...

I just bought an Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum and it's really a great solution for some 4 speaker output!

Well, await to read your comments and impressions...

UnKnOwN666 · 16th February 2003, 21:07

I did exactly what he said to do, and it works wonderfuly ive been searching on how to do this for months and thanks sooooo much for posting it, btw his ultra config i found out works the best i would suggest anyone to config it that way, thanks for all your help = ) i am so happy now

umbra415 · 23rd March 2003, 22:36

hey, I'm new to this forum, looking for something just like this. However, the A3D isn't liking my rear channels. In the config area, its got my rear speakers greyed out. If I shove the vlume all the way up on my receiver (for the rear channels) i can hear the music, but its almost as if since a3d doens't think its there, its skipping their preamp. everything else works fine.

Fluii · 11th July 2003, 23:39

Nice... but it makes my center sound over-gain..? even at low volume

Why not implement A3D in the Direct-out plugin? I realy miss Crossfading when using this plugin instead

.. Love

2.x

Wakeboarder141 · 4th August 2003, 20:37

Winamp 2.91
Sound Blaster Audigy XGamer

I have tried all of these fixes, and the only way I can get any sound to come out of my center channel is in the "mono" mode and then none of my other speakers make any sound. My system normally runs in 4.1 just fine, but I would like to use the center channel as well. Anyone have any ideas?

Fluii · 4th August 2003, 22:48

Goto Creative Surround Mixer -> Speaker-Settings: Make sure it's 5.1

Goto Creative Surround Mixer -> EAX-Console -> enable CMSS-3D

But I think it makes some odd 3D-Sound.

So i use A3D as output in Winamp: set "vet. angle, deg" = 40 (under Master)

Svenstaro · 24th December 2004, 04:30

hmm works quite well (with 5.1) nice post. but still no love for 7.1 systems =(

itsme_4ucz · 28th August 2007, 17:03

Any body to help here with this as there are no more links to be see.

Rocker · 28th August 2007, 17:29

thats because this is a thread from 2003... aka 4 years old.

turn on surround support
preferences(ctrl+p)-->playback--> check allow surround sound

16th January 2003, 05:41	#1
polarix Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 19	Watch Out! Here comes the CENTER channel! Looking for 5.1 music with those spiffy new Klipsches? (Or should I say Logitechs now that they have a great 5.1?) I know I was. For almost a year. And it was driving me crazy. The other posts I saw all said something along the lines of "It's music, it's only supposed to be in two channels stoopid!". Well that's not my opinion. I bought these speakers for 6, not 2 channels. Now, I have an Audigy on Windows XP (Gasp). I upgraded everything and it still didn't have center channel audio, except on DVDs and stuff that was 'supposed' to have more than 2 channels. This was ok, but I was getting just crazy. Here goes what I did: First Step: Follow everything in this thread. http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=72515 Second Step: Get the A3d emulation here... http://www.3dsoundsurge.com/drivers/utils.html Or a direct link to the file: http://www.3dss.com/files/a2ddrivers312.exe Third Step: Here's the key component... An A3D audio mixer for Winamp 2! GOGOGO! http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=63231 For those who feel like ultra configuring it, I am using a scheme as follows: Master: 1.25 m, 0 degrees, 30 degrees, 1 gain, 1 equalization Channel 1: 1.00 m, -90 degrees, 0 degrees, 1 gain, 1 equalization Channel 2: 1.00 m, 90 degrees, 0 degrees, 1 gain, 1 equalization Channel 3: 1.00 m, -135 degrees, 0 degrees, 1 gain, 1 equalization Channel 4: 1.00 m, 135 degrees, 0 degrees, 1 gain, 1 equalization This is making me happy. Quite happy. Hope it helps! Greg

11th July 2003, 23:39	#7
Fluii Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 27	Nice... but it makes my center sound over-gain..? even at low volume Why not implement A3D in the Direct-out plugin? I realy miss Crossfading when using this plugin instead .. Love 2.x ·: My Audigy2 loves 5.x

4th August 2003, 22:48	#9
Fluii Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 27	Goto Creative Surround Mixer -> Speaker-Settings: Make sure it's 5.1 Goto Creative Surround Mixer -> EAX-Console -> enable CMSS-3D But I think it makes some odd 3D-Sound. So i use A3D as output in Winamp: set "vet. angle, deg" = 40 (under Master) ·: My Audigy2 loves 5.x

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16th January 2003, 12:45	#2
counterstrike Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3	will this work for winamp3?

16th January 2003, 12:54	#3
binary hero Banned Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 7,004	counterstrike - no. or you can just rip your audio to ogg vorbis which has 5.1 channel support

29th January 2003, 14:46	#4
GaBMaTrIx Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 33	I would be very interested to hear other members opinions about this alternative output for Winamp... I just bought an Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum and it's really a great solution for some 4 speaker output! Well, await to read your comments and impressions...

16th February 2003, 21:07	#5
UnKnOwN666 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1	I did exactly what he said to do, and it works wonderfuly ive been searching on how to do this for months and thanks sooooo much for posting it, btw his ultra config i found out works the best i would suggest anyone to config it that way, thanks for all your help = ) i am so happy now

23rd March 2003, 22:36	#6
umbra415 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1	hey, I'm new to this forum, looking for something just like this. However, the A3D isn't liking my rear channels. In the config area, its got my rear speakers greyed out. If I shove the vlume all the way up on my receiver (for the rear channels) i can hear the music, but its almost as if since a3d doens't think its there, its skipping their preamp. everything else works fine.

4th August 2003, 20:37	#8
Wakeboarder141 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 3	Winamp 2.91 Sound Blaster Audigy XGamer I have tried all of these fixes, and the only way I can get any sound to come out of my center channel is in the "mono" mode and then none of my other speakers make any sound. My system normally runs in 4.1 just fine, but I would like to use the center channel as well. Anyone have any ideas?

24th December 2004, 04:30	#10
Svenstaro Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2	hmm works quite well (with 5.1) nice post. but still no love for 7.1 systems =(

28th August 2007, 17:03	#11
itsme_4ucz Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1	Any body to help here with this as there are no more links to be see.

28th August 2007, 17:29	#12
Rocker Hiding in plain sight (mod) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 9,910	thats because this is a thread from 2003... aka 4 years old. turn on surround support preferences(ctrl+p)-->playback--> check allow surround sound