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Old 19th March 2004, 02:14   #1
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Send us your Media Library View Presets!!!

We're on the lookout for cool Media Library View Presets to be included in a future release of Winamp. Here's an example of what we're looking for:

name="50's songs that don't suck"
query="year >= "1950" AND year < "1960" AND rating >= "3"

If you don't know what I'm talking about, Go into the Media Library and click "Library->Add New View" and check out the query builder and the Advanced editor tab.

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Old 19th March 2004, 02:19   #2
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Not on my main computer, but this is close to one I use:

Good Songs I Haven't Heard in a While
(((playcount >= 10) OR (rating >= 3)) ) AND (lastplay < [2 weeks ago])

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Old 19th March 2004, 04:18   #3
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I use these two a lot.

Long song filter
LENGTH <= 00:01:00 AND TYPE == 0

and

Short song filter
LENGTH >= 00:01:00 AND TYPE == 0

Simple, but useful (to me atleast)
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Old 19th March 2004, 07:27   #4
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My collection too massive to bother with ratings so I just have views for genres and particular bands I like. When I come to a song I don't like I utilize the "next" function in order to skip it.

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Old 26th March 2004, 15:13   #5
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<A> Most Played
playcount > "10" AND type = "0"

<A> Recently Added
lastupd > [10 days ago] AND type = "0"

<A> Recently Played
lastplay > [2 years ago] AND type = "0"

<A> Less Played
playcount <= "3" AND type = "0"

<V> Most Played
playcount > "10" AND type = "1"

<V> Recently Added
lastupd > [10 days ago] AND type = "1"

<V> Recently Played
lastplay > [2 years ago] AND type = "1"

<V> Less Played
playcount <= "3" AND type = "1"


<A> for audio
<V> for video

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Old 26th March 2004, 15:42   #6
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Full Albums
filename begins "H:" &! (filename begins "H:\Various Artists" | filename begins "H:\_Various Music")

Various & Compilation
filename begins "H:" & (filename begins "H:\Various Artists" | filename begins "H:\_Various Music")

New Albums
filename begins "H:" & lastupd >= [4 week ago] &! (filename begins "H:\Various Artists" | filename begins "H:\_Various Music")
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Old 27th March 2004, 00:58   #7
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  • High Quality:
    (bitrate >= "192" and type=0) or (bitrate>=2500 and type=1)
  • New Music:
    filetime >= [1 week ago] AND type = "0"
  • Recently Updated:
    lastupd >= [1 week ago] AND type = "0"
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Old 27th March 2004, 09:56   #8
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[...]
[*]New Music:

filetime >= [1 week ago] AND type = "0"

[...]
Indeed filetime is the fieldname for new data.
I only knew FILEDATE (Last known file date/time on disk), which turned out to be a typo in the Query Language Documentation!
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Old 27th March 2004, 09:59   #9
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Remixes:
title ENDS "mix)" or title ENDS "mix"

Covers
(After painstakingly putting "cover" somewhere in the comment of every cover song)
comment has Cover

Acoustic & Live
filename HAS "(acoustic" OR filename HAS "(live"
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Old 1st April 2004, 07:51   #10
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Smashing Pumpkins - suck
artist HAS "Smashing Pumpkins" AND album NOTHAS "Machina"
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Old 2nd April 2004, 04:26   #11
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Here's what I'm doing w/the media library

I'm using Winamp for both mp3s and video file management. Mp3 management is easier due to meta information being saved w/the file, but Video files don't benefit from this (many of the formats do not at least).

I've found that Winamp includes the path to the file as part of the filename, so now I'm placing my video files under categorized folders, and adding "keywords" into the folder names.

Here's a summary of the way I'm structuring things (hopefully this will make sense as it works wonderfully!):

/Video/Movies/Rated G ( Rated-G Childrens Family )/[Files here]

/Video/TV ( Television )/Rated PG ( Rated-PG Teen )Sitcoms/Animated ( Cartoons Animated )/[Files here]

/Video/Comedy/Rated G ( Rated-G Childrens Family )/Animated ( Cartoon )/[Files Here]

/Video/Comedy/Rated R ( Rated-R Adult )/Standup ( Comedian Concert )/[Files here]

Note how there's additional keywords included in parantheses after the initial part of the foldernames (WinXP, 2003 & 2000 support this... Not sure about prior versions).

Also note that in addition to naming the folders in a meaningful way, you can (and should) name the files in a meaningful way. Such as "Futurama - Episode Name - s01e08.avi").

So now I can run queries such as:
1. Show me all sitcoms
2. Show me all Rated-PG television
3. Show me all Cartoons
4. Show me all animated TV sitcoms
5. Show me all Futurama
6. Show me all Movies
7. Show me all Rated-G movies
8. Show me all animated sitcoms

And I get meaningful results from such querys! VERY cool. Well done to designers of the media library.

If the above doesn't make sense, reply letting me know - It's hard to describe it , but it makes sense from a usability standpoint.
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Old 2nd April 2004, 05:31   #12
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i like the recently added songs to library using filetime, but what would be cooler is if you could do something like the last 20 added songs to the database, no matter what date they were. Kinda like the MySQL 'limit' command, but for the library, that's my suggestion.

I'm not sure if this was discussed somewhere else, but I just remembered it and wanted to write it down before I forgot about it again .
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Old 2nd April 2004, 12:02   #13
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tried it but can't do it, I needed to be able to simply sort by update date :s

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Old 2nd April 2004, 16:04   #14
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This is all fine and Dandy, But

What about being able to do a search on strictly the comments field and have styles and tones descriptions in the comments field for each song. If I want to listen to music that is Adult Alternative I just type that into the search block and winamp does the rest.


[Edit --> DJ Egg]

Dealt with here:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=175077
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=175071

Please don't cross/double post any more posts regarding this issue.
This thread is intended for posting ML Views, and nothing else.
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Old 4th April 2004, 19:32   #15
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here's my small contribution for those who have midi files in their library and still want to be able to only list real audio (not, not "Real" i mean mp3, wav, ogg, aac, m4a, etc)

No midis:
((type != "1") AND (!(filename ends "mid")))

simple yet usefull for someone like me who uses winamp to check the ringtones that I send to my cell phone :P

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Old 4th April 2004, 20:20   #16
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Good Stuff - comment has a+ (mark all the songs I think are really good with an a+ in the comment field.

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Old 4th April 2004, 22:16   #17
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Spazz333 couldn't it be done through rating?

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Old 4th April 2004, 22:57   #18
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Yes, but I personally hate song ratings. I dunno about other people but I have a bias when I rate songs. I tried it once and most of the songs I rated as 4 or 5 stars, kinda screws the point.

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Old 5th April 2004, 04:59   #19
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I *would* have some neat presets if I could view the "composer" tag in my ML and set it through WA...

Grumble grumble.

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Old 5th April 2004, 05:08   #20
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Yes, but I personally hate song ratings. I dunno about other people but I have a bias when I rate songs. I tried it once and most of the songs I rated as 4 or 5 stars, kinda screws the point.
but if 4-5 was like

and 1-2 was dislike

wouldnt that be the same as having an a+ on songs you like?

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Old 5th April 2004, 05:22   #21
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This is true, although you can right click edit id3 tags through the playlist.

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Old 5th April 2004, 05:50   #22
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though we are getting off topic,

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....hreadid=173682

that has a plugin that allows you to rate in the playlist

and

http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=138586

which adds hotkeys for rating in the global hotkey section (along with the ability to show a little popup to tell you what song is playing)

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Old 6th April 2004, 09:19   #23
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I'd like to be able to filter results via playlists but I don't think you can do that (yet)

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Old 6th April 2004, 22:37   #24
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unfortunately anything time-based is IRRELEVANT

winamp still treats files on which the id3 tag has been edited since last rescan as "new"

TOTALLY idiotic...
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Veej007 don't blame winamp for that, blame windows! That happens, if I'm not mistaken, because winamp checks for the date of the last change of the file because some older windows only had that (if I'm not mistaken) and so anytime the file is changed it bumps to the top of the most recent list.

Hope I didn't said anything wrong and sorry for beeing offtopic :S

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Old 7th April 2004, 00:25   #26
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the godfather has a "preserve file times" option, so i'd imagine that winamp could do the same
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Old 8th April 2004, 14:38   #27
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the godfather has a "preserve file times" option, so i'd imagine that winamp could do the same
Many programs like Tag & Rename do have this option.

I just don't know why Winamp is lacking this option!
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Old 11th April 2004, 00:22   #28
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Show Full Albums (an album has only one entry in the Media Library)
  • filename HAS "E:\audio\albums" AND album != "" AND artist != "" AND trackno = "1"
Only 'Artists' & 'Albums' are in my visible colomns


I would still like to have some 'Windows Explorer'-like browsing ability in WA5's Media Library (my wishlist entry)

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Old 11th April 2004, 18:21   #29
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Yes, but I personally hate song ratings. I dunno about other people but I have a bias when I rate songs. I tried it once and most of the songs I rated as 4 or 5 stars, kinda screws the point.
hehehehe.... no doubt, I don't have much music in my collection that would rate less than a 4 otherwise why would I bother ripping it from CD or buying it on the internet? (and I have nearly 20GB of songs)

Plus if I did rate a song a three or less why would I ever want to listen to it?

I guess being a metalhead helps since all metal sound the same anyway right ;-)

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Old 11th April 2004, 22:39   #30
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well.. i rip the entire album, (just incase i want to listen to the whole album) and if there are a bunch of songs that i dont like, or if i bought the album and theres only 3 or 4 songs i like, then i can rate them better

for me, its only real purpose is for filtering in views

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Old 21st April 2004, 15:46   #31
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Good Jazz I haven't heard in a while:
genre has "jazz" & !lastplay >= [1 week ago] & !rating < "3"

Good Stuff Not Played Recently
!lastplay >= [10 days ago] & !rating < "3"

Love Songs
title has "love"

Wife's Rotation
(comment has "Wife's name") AND !(rating < 3) AND !lastplay >= [8 days ago]

I use the "not" in all of these so that files that have never been played or rated don't get excluded. I rate as I go. Here's what my ratings mean:

5- stellar
4- great song
3- good song
2- so-so, I only keep it for the sake of completeness
1- hate it, should probably be deleted
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Old 21st April 2004, 16:16   #32
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I use the "not" in all of these so that files that have never been played or rated don't get excluded. I rate as I go. Here's what my ratings mean:

5- stellar
4- great song
3- good song
2- so-so, I only keep it for the sake of completeness
1- hate it, should probably be deleted
Ah, I was about to ask what all the negation marks were about. But it makes sense, good logic there!

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Old 23rd April 2004, 21:08   #33
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What would be really neat is if you could build queries in the search bar in the regular media library without having to make a custom view for it. so have like a weird character indicate the start of a query as opposed to a regular text search, kind of like using the ` character in excel to indicate a text field and not a formula. So you'd end up with something like:

`year>1970

without cluttering up your library column with a bunch of different custom views.

THAT would be sweet.

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Already in there, try:
?year>1970

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ooh! learn something new every day!
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Old 26th April 2004, 10:13   #36
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What I would like to have - but I don't know how to do it - is generating a media library view that does something like this:

"Show only song by artists that have at least 10 songs in the library"

Anyone knows if/how this is possible?

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I'm not sure it is possible. (I'm not a Media Library Wizard), which is a pity because personal customised items like that WOULD be very useful indeed.

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Old 27th April 2004, 17:06   #38
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I use a set of 4 Library Views to manage my favorite music which gives an accurate representation of the music I currently like to listen to. The 4-view system I originally used with iTunes, but have been able to adapt it to Winamp's behavior rather easily.

Tier 1: Top
rating >= "4" AND genre NOTHAS "Classical" AND genre NOTHAS "Soundtrack" AND genre NOTHAS "Relaxing" AND lastplay > [5 days ago]

Tier 2: Aged
rating >= "4" AND genre NOTHAS "Classical" AND genre NOTHAS "Soundtrack" AND genre NOTHAS "Relaxing" AND lastplay > [2 weeks ago] AND lastplay < [1 week ago]

Tier 3: Forgotten
rating >= "4" AND genre NOTHAS "Classical" AND genre NOTHAS "Soundtrack" AND genre NOTHAS "Relaxing" AND lastplay < [1 month ago]

Tier 4: Potential
rating = "3" AND genre NOTHAS "Classical" AND genre NOTHAS "Soundtrack" AND genre NOTHAS "Relaxing" AND lastplay > [2 weeks ago]

Besides the obvious exclusion of the classical, soundtrack, and relaxing genres in every list, they are fairly simple. Tier 1 shows all music 4 or 5 stars played in the last 5 days (my current favorite music). Tier 2 shows 4 and 5 star music not played in the last week, but played within the last 2 weeks (music that hasn't been played for a while, but I might still like). Tier 3 shows me 4 and 5 star music that I haven't played for a month (for remembering old favorites, or demoting the rating of non-favorites). Tier 4 shows me 3 star music that I've played recently and if I notice a song that stays on this list for a long time, I will upgrade it to 4 stars. You may notice the gaps between the playlists where songs won't appear in any of them. This is intentional, to give those songs that fall off of a list time for me to forget about them and get fresh consideration when they appear on the next lowest tier.

It should be noted that I didn't come up with this idea, though I did adapt it a bit by adding the 4th Tier. The original idea came from a post at smartplaylists.com
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why rip classical/soundtrack/relaxing music at all if on the only 4 views you use, you dont have it included..

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Maybe for completeness, maybe he shares the computer with other users who use a different playback program, but both pull from the same music directory. Could be lots of reasons, and the local media view always shows ALL your media, if he ever needed access to them.

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