can't get focus on all windows

[schaggo]

Since upgrade to 5.12, Winamp looses after some minutes of play (10 to 60) the ability to set focus on all Winamp-windows exept the main window (playlist, Medialist, options dialog etc.)

I can take these windows and move them arround, but its not possible to click in it. Close Winamp an reopen solves the problem - until the next time...

Useless to say, that all other programs work fine in parallel and stand alone.

Any Ideas?

Thanks for all tips.
schaggo

[schaggo]

bring it up again, still hoping on tips.

[JonnyMac]

I don't think that anyone has been able to reproduce the issue.

Please provide system specifications. What do you have for third party Winamp plug-ins (if any)?

[Thoro]

I don't think that anyone has been able to reproduce the issue.

This is not correct. I can produce this issue whenever I like to, after I updated from 5.02 to 5.12. I just have to run my copy of Winamp for a few minutes and open some windows, and soon I get the same effect as schaggo reported. I did not make out the trigger so far, but I found out that the problem is related to the modern skin, as the the classic skin works fine, even if the issue already occured on the modern skin.

So first I thought the issue could be caused by some of my installed plug-ins, as I only made an update of my Winamp and not a clean install. At this time I also get Windows exeptions after this issue occured. So I made a clean install, meaning uninstalling winamp via system-controls and manually deleting the hole Winamp directory and the "winamp.ini" within the Windows directory. So far I only installed the German Language-Pack, but the issue remains (apart from this the Windows exeptions are gone).

So I will now make an clean install without the German Language-Pack to see, if this could cause the problem. As schaggo is from Switzerland, he might also have installed the German Language-Pack.

[DrO]

the german language pack has a number of issues with it that have come to light lately with the newer versions of winamp especially since it installs what are old versions of the plugins winamp needs (and is a possible cause of conflict/crashing).

-daz

[Thoro]

Ok, now I can announce that this issue is definitly caused by the German Language-Pack. I ran Winamp without it the whole morning without any problems. After installation of the language pack and a few clicks in Winamp the same issue occured again.

So perhaps, someone should remove the language pack from the plug-in list or at least make a notice about this problem with newer Winamp versions. ... and hopefully there will be a new German language-pack available soon.

[DrO]

i've added a note to this one

i still need to work out a policy on language packs (especially those which modify the versions of the plugins included with newer Winamp installs) since they seem to be a bit more of a cause of issue of late

as for a new one, from what was mentioned in another thread a few weeks back, the original author of it no longer updates it and doesn't have any intention of doing so but maybe someone else is looking to do it now... i don't know

-daz

[DJ Egg]

Just remove it :/

[DrO]

that's the intention for it and a few others i think or putting it into a legacy category with only current ones in the main language section

-daz

[Thoro]

I think the problem why Winamp has so less up to date language packs is, because it is quite complex to write one. I mean, on the one hand side you have to be good in translating languages, on the other hand side you have to be a C programmer to create one. I think these two conditions matches only a few people around the world. If there would be simple text-files (e.g. XML-files) to edit, as seen in many other programms, I believe much more people would help Winamp to translate.

Also (please correct me if I'm wrong, I just took a short look) it seems that you have to start your translation from the bottom up, if there was a change in the Winamp-Version. A short documentation of what changed / were added or removed would make work for translators easier.

[schaggo]

Yep, can confirm it too. Caused by the german language pack, such a bizzare behavior occured.

1000 thanks for you guys.

[jmatthews112]

Originally posted by Thoro
A short documentation of what changed / were added or removed would make work for translators easier.

See Winamp\whatsnew.txt.

[DrO]

Thoro: that's true (which is why all of my plugins work on ini files generally so it can be tested in real time) and i had hoped a while back to make an automated system/editor which would make handling of such a case as simple as entering the text (or re-loading from a previous .lng file) and it then creating a new one as such for you.

i don't think you have to update it from scratch everytime, as long as the differences in the file can be found (which often is pretty easy) then it's pretty straight forward to adjust. also the issue with the language packs is ones that resource/binary hack the associated plugins since the .lng is just for the core of the winamp.exe's dialogs/menus and that has barely changed since 5.0 came out (at most a few extra controls every few versions to translate)

who knows what will happen with the language file format in the future, hell they could just get rid of it completely, heh (joking). i've volunteered a number of times with other language packs to help compile them so it's not like people have to become coders but i understand completely the point you make since the process isn't the simplest (but is for the program to handle it)

-daz

[DrO]

jmat: the changes to winamp's dialog resources don't tend to be mentioned in the whatsnew.txt

-daz