Nullsoft Musepack Decoder v1.0 Beta Released

DJ Egg · 26th February 2007, 20:13

Nullsoft Musepack Decoder v1.0 Beta

http://meggamusic.co.uk/winamp/mpc/in_mpc.exe
http://stashbox.org/745693/in_mpc.exe

Supports:
-Global 'Allow 24bit', 'Use Replay Gain', etc settings in Winamp > Prefs > Playback
-ReplayGain Analyzer (saved to APEv2 tags)
-Media Library metadata importing
-Burning to Audio CD (via: ML > Rip & Burn)

For use with Winamp 5.3x and above.
Please confirm that you are using the latest version when reporting any issues.

Note that many of the redundant options/settings have been removed from in_mpc config.
Alas, transcoding is currently broken with newer versions of Winamp :-(

Plugin is provided 'as-is' for beta testing purposes only. Support will not be provided.
Please report any issues/bugs in this thread ONLY. Any feedback is welcome :-)

______________________________________

Update: 23rd Dec 2009

-Repackaged with required nscrt.dll so it'll work on clean installs of 5.571+
-Cleaned up Prefs dialog
-No other code changes whatsoever (ie. no SV8 support, transcoding still broken).

DJ Egg · 27th February 2007, 10:55

Hmm, I guess this must confirm just how popular Musepack is then...?

CraigF · 27th February 2007, 11:08

hehe

gaekwad2 · 27th February 2007, 11:16

Post it at Hydrogenaudio, and enjoy the Musepack is/isn't dead flamewar.

code65536 · 27th February 2007, 11:22

Or just that nobody has found any bugs yet (aside from quirks in the preferences window that I assume is just minor residue). I mean, you did say that this is a bug-reporting thread...

*used the plugin for a couple of hours last night w/o problems*

DJ Egg · 27th February 2007, 11:32

Ahh, right, heh. I've added "Any feedback is welcome" to the end of the first post.

Thanks.

martin.deimos · 27th February 2007, 16:57

no bugs noticed till now!

Kieran Walker · 27th February 2007, 18:16

So Egg, what happened to Nullsoft not really wanting to take the time to add native support for a format that's barely hanging on by a thread? Not to be a jerk or anything, I'm just curious. What made you guys decide to work on this?

DJ Egg · 27th February 2007, 19:48

Was probably as a result of this thread.

Omega X · 1st March 2007, 01:48

I haven't noticed anything other than the options window not keeping settings and the giant blank space to the left of the window.

DJ Egg · 1st March 2007, 03:57

Yeah, 'Dither output' and 'Use tags for title formatting' aren't used any more.

It now uses Winamp's global settings ('Dither' in Prefs > Playback, and 'Use ATF' in Prefs > Titles), so those two options probably need removing (ooh, even more gray space!)

Basically, the config still needs tidying up, and will probably end up being half the size when it's done.

martin.deimos · 1st March 2007, 15:26

half the size will reduce half of the gey space

are there any other mpc things coming? (ripping)
and will this once be in the final distro or in wa essentials?

DrO · 1st March 2007, 15:44

i'd have thought it'd be more likely to go in the essentials package (the sheer abundance of replies to this shows it's just too popular for the main distro

) but that's really down to the devs to make the call on it (possibly going how it went with in_flac initially in essentials to main distro but really depends on how useful it would be i guess)

-daz

waldomonster · 1st March 2007, 22:02

The plugin works perfectly.
The only small bug I found is that when applying replay-gain it will not immediately apply.
I could only compare it to a FLAC files that immediately applies the replay-gain.

CraigF · 2nd March 2007, 10:58

It's much more likely this will end up just stuck in the winamp.com plugins pages. Obviously, as assumed, MPC is pretty dead and not many people will really be that interested in having to download it as part of a winamp bundle (be it the winamp package, or essentials).

code65536 · 2nd March 2007, 13:13

Quote:

Originally posted by CraigF
It's much more likely this will end up just stuck in the winamp.com plugins pages. Obviously, as assumed, MPC is pretty dead and not many people will really be that interested in having to download it as part of a winamp bundle (be it the winamp package, or essentials).

Not that in_mpc takes up a whole lot of space, though... and although the format may be dead in that few people are encoding in MPC these days, there are still a lot of MPC files in existence around the world.

DJ Egg · 2nd March 2007, 13:21

It might make it into the Essentials Pack...
although, can it really be classed as "essential"?

As for making it into the Winamp distribution... there's a few patent/legal issues which need looking into first. It took over a year to get native ogg vorbis support included with Winamp due to similar reasons.

wabbit1245 · 2nd March 2007, 14:51

It works perfectly with Winamp 5.33. Thanks for supporting Musepack.

Altrough, I miss the equalizer from the old plugin, which was a lot better than the default one.

DJ Egg · 2nd March 2007, 15:44

Yeah, the option to use the built-in Musepack EQ was taken out, so it just uses the Winamp EQ (if turned 'on'). I'm not sure if the built-in one will return or not...

Rocker · 3rd March 2007, 07:39

yay musepack decoder

amano · 3rd March 2007, 20:56

I vote for including this in the winamp essentials pack. it is still a good and interesting format.

I hope that some other plugins can be updated as well. Eg. some of the console formats (gym, spc, nsfe, ...) if the source code is available and the license allows it.

Koopa · 4th March 2007, 19:20

SNESAmp Wrapper 0.4 & YMAMP 2.5 Beta2 relased (was 'Winamp 5.2 bug with .spc files!')

amano · 4th March 2007, 23:26

Woot. Great! I didn't track this thread and hadn't noticed the Y2007 updates before.
Can transcoding support be added as well into these plugins? (or is it already?)

DrO · 4th March 2007, 23:53

not sure, is possibly more likely for ymamp than snesamp (depends on how much of the decode core i can pull out, etc) but would be nice to have both compatible at some point, heh

-daz

Moguta · 8th March 2007, 03:32

Hrm, neat... I'm curious, does this update only bring the latest released MPC plugin into Winamp's shared playback/titling/library features? Or is it based on the new libmpcdec 1.2.3 (released November 2006) that supports the fast seeking implemented in the newest encoder, along with an allegedly reduced memory footprint?

DJ Egg · 8th March 2007, 09:41

It's based on the 0.99g version of the mpc plugin/source.
afaik, the latest version of libmpcdec is 1.2.5 (11th Feb).

Moguta · 8th March 2007, 23:39

Ooops, you're right DJ Egg. It would be sweet if they'd updated the decoding of the plugin to take advantage of the newest encoder's features, but I suppose there's only so much one will do for a format has been long inactive.

Once considered the best format for high-quality lossy audio, Musepack hasn't even been recently tested against the newer LAME and Vorbis revisions for a lack of encoder development.

I've been trying Vorbis's aoTuV beta5, and its amazing how good the music can sound at the lower bitrates... at least compared to MP3 encoded at similar rates. Now Vorbis, that's a good codec with active development. Even if it's not being done by the "official" devs.

Koopa · 8th March 2007, 23:42

Quote:

Originally posted by Moguta
Even if it's not being done by the "official" devs.

I thought Xiph.org ported some of the aoTuV changes back to the 1.1 release? So it's official in a special way.

Moguta · 8th March 2007, 23:57

True, Aoyoume's beta2 improvements were merged into the official libVorbis 1.1 release. That was... at least a year or two ago. And his current improvements -- up to beta5 -- are planned to be integrated, but this is on hold indefinitely pending Monty having time to do so. In other words, official Vorbis releases are in stagnation.

So in essence, yes, aoTuV is "official" Vorbis development, by virtue of being the only development at all.

r2d · 23rd April 2007, 15:13

Hello,

I already asked this question on the HA thread, but didn't get any answer, so I try here :
Is it possible to get the source code of this plugin ?

Thanks,

Nicolas

dragonan83 · 3rd May 2007, 16:12

Hi,
I just installed th Musepack plugin and it plays files perfectly, but when I try using the format converter I keep getting an error that says "Transcoding Failed : Can't Open Decoder". I'm trying to convert the files to mp3s.

Hope you can fix that bug

DJ Egg · 6th May 2007, 15:15

Yup, bug confirmed (transcoding .mpc->* is borked with 5.34)

5.34 Whatsnew
* Improved: IPC_CONVERTFILE now uses api_decodefile (for ripping & transcoding)

Alas, ^that^ is what broke it...

Personal Wishlist:

in_mpc needs a 'Supported extensions' option

MPC MP+ MPP

I've never seen an .mp+ or .mpp file before, they're all just .mpc these days.

(will also be something to fill up some of that gray space with) ;-)

martin.deimos · 7th May 2007, 15:53

i've seen some mp+, and filling white space is better for our eyes

Antonski · 28th May 2007, 08:04

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ Egg (on 8th March)
... the latest version of libmpcdec is 1.2.5 (11th Feb).

The latest version is actually 1.2.6 (17th Apr).
~

Ary · 28th May 2007, 10:21

Thank you for the beta plugin.
What's the libmpcdec of this beta plugin?

Ary · 28th May 2007, 11:14

[Edit --> DJ Egg]

Content removed

Please do not post garbage survey/poll/spam links etc in your posts.

This serves as an official warning.

DJ Egg · 28th May 2007, 11:44

^

Ary · 28th May 2007, 11:53

Ok, sorry...

d96toveg · 26th June 2007, 20:02

Hi,
Haven't been using winamp for that long so I probably jsut doing something stupid... hope you can help.
Downloaded the dll to the plug-in directory for winamp.
What more do I need to do to get this to work? Can't find the plugin when I open up winamp.
Any hints would be most appreciated!
/Tove

kainv · 27th June 2007, 12:32

Quote:

Originally posted by d96toveg
Downloaded the dll to the plug-in directory for winamp.
What more do I need to do to get this to work? Can't find the plugin when I open up winamp.

same problem here, no ideas how to det it to work...

26th February 2007, 20:13	#1
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	Nullsoft Musepack Decoder v1.0 Beta Released Nullsoft Musepack Decoder v1.0 Beta http://meggamusic.co.uk/winamp/mpc/in_mpc.exe http://stashbox.org/745693/in_mpc.exe Supports: -Global 'Allow 24bit', 'Use Replay Gain', etc settings in Winamp > Prefs > Playback -ReplayGain Analyzer (saved to APEv2 tags) -Media Library metadata importing -Burning to Audio CD (via: ML > Rip & Burn) For use with Winamp 5.3x and above. Please confirm that you are using the latest version when reporting any issues. Note that many of the redundant options/settings have been removed from in_mpc config. Alas, transcoding is currently broken with newer versions of Winamp :-( Plugin is provided 'as-is' for beta testing purposes only. Support will not be provided. Please report any issues/bugs in this thread ONLY. Any feedback is welcome :-) ______________________________________ Update: 23rd Dec 2009 -Repackaged with required nscrt.dll so it'll work on clean installs of 5.571+ -Cleaned up Prefs dialog -No other code changes whatsoever (ie. no SV8 support, transcoding still broken). Playlist -\|- Twitter

27th February 2007, 10:55	#2
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	Hmm, I guess this must confirm just how popular Musepack is then...? Playlist -\|- Twitter

27th February 2007, 11:32	#6
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	Ahh, right, heh. I've added "Any feedback is welcome" to the end of the first post. Thanks. Playlist -\|- Twitter

27th February 2007, 16:57	#7
martin.deimos Android/UI Development Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,242	no bugs noticed till now! WebSite: www.skinconsortium.com - Community for Userinterface Design & Coding Skins: Click Here

27th February 2007, 19:48	#9
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	Was probably as a result of this thread. Playlist -\|- Twitter

27th February 2007, 11:08	#3
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	hehe

27th February 2007, 11:16	#4
gaekwad2 Foorum King Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: bar2000 Posts: 11,456	Post it at Hydrogenaudio, and enjoy the Musepack is/isn't dead flamewar.

27th February 2007, 11:22	#5
code65536 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: .us Posts: 30	Or just that nobody has found any bugs yet (aside from quirks in the preferences window that I assume is just minor residue). I mean, you did say that this is a bug-reporting thread... used the plugin for a couple of hours last night w/o problems

27th February 2007, 18:16	#8
Kieran Walker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wyoming Posts: 155	So Egg, what happened to Nullsoft not really wanting to take the time to add native support for a format that's barely hanging on by a thread? Not to be a jerk or anything, I'm just curious. What made you guys decide to work on this?

1st March 2007, 01:48	#10
Omega X Forum King Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: A Parallel Dimension Posts: 2,253	I haven't noticed anything other than the options window not keeping settings and the giant blank space to the left of the window.

1st March 2007, 03:57	#11
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	Yeah, 'Dither output' and 'Use tags for title formatting' aren't used any more. It now uses Winamp's global settings ('Dither' in Prefs > Playback, and 'Use ATF' in Prefs > Titles), so those two options probably need removing (ooh, even more gray space!) Basically, the config still needs tidying up, and will probably end up being half the size when it's done. Playlist -\|- Twitter

1st March 2007, 15:26	#12
martin.deimos Android/UI Development Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,242	half the size will reduce half of the gey space are there any other mpc things coming? (ripping) and will this once be in the final distro or in wa essentials? WebSite: www.skinconsortium.com - Community for Userinterface Design & Coding Skins: Click Here

1st March 2007, 15:44	#13
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	i'd have thought it'd be more likely to go in the essentials package (the sheer abundance of replies to this shows it's just too popular for the main distro ) but that's really down to the devs to make the call on it (possibly going how it went with in_flac initially in essentials to main distro but really depends on how useful it would be i guess) -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

1st March 2007, 22:02	#14
waldomonster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 17	The plugin works perfectly. The only small bug I found is that when applying replay-gain it will not immediately apply. I could only compare it to a FLAC files that immediately applies the replay-gain.

2nd March 2007, 10:58	#15
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	It's much more likely this will end up just stuck in the winamp.com plugins pages. Obviously, as assumed, MPC is pretty dead and not many people will really be that interested in having to download it as part of a winamp bundle (be it the winamp package, or essentials).

2nd March 2007, 13:21	#17
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	It might make it into the Essentials Pack... although, can it really be classed as "essential"? As for making it into the Winamp distribution... there's a few patent/legal issues which need looking into first. It took over a year to get native ogg vorbis support included with Winamp due to similar reasons. Playlist -\|- Twitter

2nd March 2007, 14:51	#18
wabbit1245 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bucharest Posts: 1	It works perfectly with Winamp 5.33. Thanks for supporting Musepack. Altrough, I miss the equalizer from the old plugin, which was a lot better than the default one.

2nd March 2007, 15:44	#19
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	Yeah, the option to use the built-in Musepack EQ was taken out, so it just uses the Winamp EQ (if turned 'on'). I'm not sure if the built-in one will return or not... Playlist -\|- Twitter

3rd March 2007, 07:39	#20
Rocker Hiding in plain sight (mod) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 9,910	yay musepack decoder

3rd March 2007, 20:56	#21
amano Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: where the llamas come from! Posts: 952	I vote for including this in the winamp essentials pack. it is still a good and interesting format. I hope that some other plugins can be updated as well. Eg. some of the console formats (gym, spc, nsfe, ...) if the source code is available and the license allows it. eeeee eeeeeee eeeee eeeee eeeee 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 88 8eee8 8e 8 8 8eee8 8e 8 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8eee8

4th March 2007, 19:20	#22
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4th March 2007, 23:26	#23
amano Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: where the llamas come from! Posts: 952	Woot. Great! I didn't track this thread and hadn't noticed the Y2007 updates before. Can transcoding support be added as well into these plugins? (or is it already?) eeeee eeeeeee eeeee eeeee eeeee 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 88 8eee8 8e 8 8 8eee8 8e 8 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 8 88 8 88 8 8 88 8 88 8 8eee8

4th March 2007, 23:53	#24
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	not sure, is possibly more likely for ymamp than snesamp (depends on how much of the decode core i can pull out, etc) but would be nice to have both compatible at some point, heh -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

8th March 2007, 03:32	#25
Moguta Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 190	Hrm, neat... I'm curious, does this update only bring the latest released MPC plugin into Winamp's shared playback/titling/library features? Or is it based on the new libmpcdec 1.2.3 (released November 2006) that supports the fast seeking implemented in the newest encoder, along with an allegedly reduced memory footprint? Magnatune - A role model for ALL digital music stores!

8th March 2007, 09:41	#26
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	It's based on the 0.99g version of the mpc plugin/source. afaik, the latest version of libmpcdec is 1.2.5 (11th Feb). Playlist -\|- Twitter

8th March 2007, 23:39	#27
Moguta Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 190	Ooops, you're right DJ Egg. It would be sweet if they'd updated the decoding of the plugin to take advantage of the newest encoder's features, but I suppose there's only so much one will do for a format has been long inactive. Once considered the best format for high-quality lossy audio, Musepack hasn't even been recently tested against the newer LAME and Vorbis revisions for a lack of encoder development. I've been trying Vorbis's aoTuV beta5, and its amazing how good the music can sound at the lower bitrates... at least compared to MP3 encoded at similar rates. Now Vorbis, that's a good codec with active development. Even if it's not being done by the "official" devs. Magnatune - A role model for ALL digital music stores!

8th March 2007, 23:57	#29
Moguta Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 190	True, Aoyoume's beta2 improvements were merged into the official libVorbis 1.1 release. That was... at least a year or two ago. And his current improvements -- up to beta5 -- are planned to be integrated, but this is on hold indefinitely pending Monty having time to do so. In other words, official Vorbis releases are in stagnation. So in essence, yes, aoTuV is "official" Vorbis development, by virtue of being the only development at all. Magnatune - A role model for ALL digital music stores!

23rd April 2007, 15:13	#30
r2d Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1	plugin source code Hello, I already asked this question on the HA thread, but didn't get any answer, so I try here : Is it possible to get the source code of this plugin ? Thanks, Nicolas

3rd May 2007, 16:12	#31
dragonan83 Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1	Hi, I just installed th Musepack plugin and it plays files perfectly, but when I try using the format converter I keep getting an error that says "Transcoding Failed : Can't Open Decoder". I'm trying to convert the files to mp3s. Hope you can fix that bug

6th May 2007, 15:15	#32
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	Yup, bug confirmed (transcoding .mpc->* is borked with 5.34) 5.34 Whatsnew * Improved: IPC_CONVERTFILE now uses api_decodefile (for ripping & transcoding) Alas, ^that^ is what broke it... Personal Wishlist: in_mpc needs a 'Supported extensions' option MPC MP+ MPP I've never seen an .mp+ or .mpp file before, they're all just .mpc these days. (will also be something to fill up some of that gray space with) ;-) Playlist -\|- Twitter

7th May 2007, 15:53	#33
martin.deimos Android/UI Development Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,242	i've seen some mp+, and filling white space is better for our eyes WebSite: www.skinconsortium.com - Community for Userinterface Design & Coding Skins: Click Here

28th May 2007, 10:21	#35
Ary Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 54	Thank you for the beta plugin. What's the libmpcdec of this beta plugin?

28th May 2007, 11:14	#36
Ary Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 54	[Edit --> DJ Egg] Content removed Please do not post garbage survey/poll/spam links etc in your posts. This serves as an official warning.

28th May 2007, 11:44	#37
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,871	^ Playlist -\|- Twitter

28th May 2007, 11:53	#38
Ary Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 54	Ok, sorry...