Old 12th October 2001, 22:36   #1
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.WAV to MP3s?

Is there any way to convert WAV files to MP3s, or is it too complex?
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Old 12th October 2001, 22:46   #2
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Use CDex

or if you insist, go to the plug-ins section and search for MP3 Output plug-ins
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Old 13th October 2001, 02:04   #3
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it almsot worked

I tried using a plug-in first (MP3 Output Plug-In), I figured that would be easier. and it converted the files, but now they won't play. Any suggestions?
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Old 13th October 2001, 02:08   #4
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Use CDex (linked above). it is a lot easier
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Old 13th October 2001, 06:21   #5
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The reason they're not playing is because they're being converted into new MP3's too. You have to disable MP3 output by switching the output plugin back to DirectSound or WaveOut.

And yeah, CDex is easier.
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Old 13th October 2001, 15:29   #6
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I personally use EAC together with LAME to make MP3s from WAVs.

EAC is slightly more complicated to use, and CDex already comes with LAME, a very decent MP3 encoder, so I guess for beginners, CDex would be the better guess to go with .


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Old 13th October 2001, 16:45   #7
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I use AudioGrabber. It's not freeware
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Old 13th October 2001, 22:47   #8
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I use AudioGrabber. It's not freeware
Eek, Audiograbber does not feature a secure ripping method. That's okay with brand-new CDs, but as soon as they have scratch marks, even little tiny ones, can become a problem to get a clean rip. I have made my experiences with Audiograbber, and with scratched CDs, it just fails. EAC and CDex give me perfect results, however, EAC performs better than CDex in some (rare) cases.

Additionally, why pay for Audiograbber when there are much better, plus free alternatives out there .


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Old 14th October 2001, 01:56   #9
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Maybe you guys can help me here.
I've read so much today from message boards and websites,
that I've overloaded my head to the point of confusion.
I'm all set up to record from all the vinyl lps I've got.
Everything's hooked up and working.
Most will go onto CD.
But some songs I want to save as MP3 here so I can share them.

What I'm looking for is one program that will:
1)record from my turntable at a high quality rate.
2)clean up pops hisses and stuff like that.
3)convert to CD quality for CD.
4)convert to the highest quality MP3 rate for sharing.
5)take all these MP3's I already have and improve their rate from 56 to 128 or better.

I'm willing to pay for software so that's not a problem.
Is there a program that will do all that?
If not what combination of programs will do?
Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

/me now goes and lays my head down to rest

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Old 14th October 2001, 02:05   #10
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Re encoding a MP3 with a lower bitrate to a higher bit reate is always a dumb idea. The dammage to the file is already done and re-encoding it would do even more dammage. Going from LP to MP3 I would say that 64kbps Mono would be way more then enough, but if you want to burn it it would have to be in stero so 128kbps or even 112 kbps Stero mp3 should be good enough (I think 96 wouldn't be too bad too). Remember LP (records) are mono recordings.

What I woudl do is record the LP to stereo 16 bit WAV and burn thoes WAV. then convert the WAV into a Mono MP3. Any Audiophile wanna tell me I am wrong?
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Old 14th October 2001, 02:35   #11
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Thanks sawg, I read allot today about what you said.
But I'm looking more for the software
that will do all that in one package if that's possible.
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Old 14th October 2001, 03:44   #12
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Quote:
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Eek, Audiograbber does not feature a secure ripping method. That's okay with brand-new CDs, but as soon as they have scratch marks, even little tiny ones, can become a problem to get a clean rip. I have made my experiences with Audiograbber, and with scratched CDs, it just fails. EAC and CDex give me perfect results, however, EAC performs better than CDex in some (rare) cases.

Additionally, why pay for Audiograbber when there are much better, plus free alternatives out there

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Secure ripping has been implemented already in AudioGrabber v1.81, which should be released sometime this month or early next month.
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Old 14th October 2001, 04:04   #13
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... Remember LP (records) are mono recordings ...
Some very old LPs will be mono it's true, but anything produced from the mid sixties onward will most likely be stereo. There were even quadraphonic records made, but they never caught on due to the cost of the equipment needed to play them.

I agree with you about trying to upgrade the bit rate on Mp3s though, the damage has already been done. I also agree that recording and burning should be done with WAV files wherever possible.

The very best 'all in one' software for this sort of thing is probably 'WaveLab', with the 'Sound Forge' Vinyl/NR plug ins, but you might not want to pay for it.(about $800 worth) Does everything you want and has one of the best wave editors available. It will produce almost original quality if you are prepared to put the time in, an average 3 min track will take the best part of 3 hours to clean up manually, very much a labour of love.

My favorite for all this sort of stuff would be a combination of 'Feurio' for the recording, burning and encoding, 'Wave Corrector' for recording and automatic noise reduction, both are shareware and around $25. You can try both for free, though Wave Corrector is partly restricted in demo.(record as long as you like, but only 2 minutes of clean up)

Other classics would be Nero and CDex.

'WinOnCD' produces good noise reduction results, but I don't like it for much else.

(Additional) Make sure your records and stylus are as clean as possible before recording, saves a lot of cleaning up later.


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Old 14th October 2001, 10:52   #14
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Secure ripping has been implemented already in AudioGrabber v1.81, which should be released sometime this month or early next month.
... It will still be crippled shareware you have to pay for, nevertheless .

EAC and CDex rule. The only good point about Audiograbber is its nice interface .


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Old 14th October 2001, 14:50   #15
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Thanks for all the good info.
I understand what your'e saying about taking MP3's at 56 and changing to 128
and the damage already done. So I'll basically scrap that idea.
I'll just have to live with those at 56.

Keep those cards and letters coming.
Thanks again.

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Well, after a nights sleep, and a cup of java...
I've found a way to solve all my needs except the cleanup.
I just installed an MP3 Lame encoder(Dll) plug-in into my TotalRecorder.
This enables me to record anything (from CD's, cassettes', LP's, Realstreams,etc) like before,
in CD quality (up to 48,000Hz,16bit Stereo)
and then convert to MP3 (from 8Kbits/s,8000Hz Stereo up to 320 Kbits/s,48,000Hz Stereo).
I could also have, or in place of, installed a Blade encoder,
but I guess that's another debate.

So...thanks again for the input.
/me now puts the needle on the record...
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Old 14th October 2001, 23:23   #17
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Just a quick tip

48KHz is not CD Quality, so you won't be able to burn those files.
CD Quality = 44.1KHz, 16-bit, stereo
Use this format only for the files you want to burn to CD.
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Thanks for the tip.
I went and set the rate at 44.1KHz, 16-bit Stereo,
named it "CD Quality" and saved it in the settings list.
Hope your'e doing great.
Later.
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Old 15th October 2001, 05:41   #19
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Aside from being just a ripper wth a nice interface, AudioGrabber works well as a frontend for any external (EXE as opposed to DLL) encoder.
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Howto!

Quote:
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Eek, Audiograbber does not feature a secure ripping method. That's okay with brand-new CDs, but as soon as they have scratch marks, even little tiny ones, can become a problem to get a clean rip. I have made my experiences with Audiograbber, and with scratched CDs, it just fails. EAC and CDex give me perfect results, however, EAC performs better than CDex in some (rare) cases.

Additionally, why pay for Audiograbber when there are much better, plus free alternatives out there .


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Please join us as http://r3mix.net/forum or http://www.hydrogenaudio.com !
Here we can provide you with the best suitable info!
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Aside from being just a ripper wth a nice interface, AudioGrabber works well as a frontend for any external (EXE as opposed to DLL) encoder.
... As well as EAC, CDex, actually any other CD ripper, can act as a front-end for external encoders . Plus, once again, EAC and CDex are free .


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Re: Howto!

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Please join us as http://r3mix.net/forum or http://www.hydrogenaudio.com !
Here we can provide you with the best suitable info!
Huh, uh, are you talking to me?

I don't need "suitable info" for anything right now, even if, I already joined the r3mix.net forums a while ago .


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Thanks everyone

Thanks, now I have a direction to go. I'll let you know how it works.
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Umm...why didn't you just reply in the other post? This thread is nearly 8 months old.

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