What is a forum?

16th November 2001, 13:43

Webster calls a forum "a place for the discussion of matters of public interest or of interest to a specific group". Over time I have come to realize that is not what these forums are for the most part. In large part these forums seem to be a place for young people to come and spew out all thier anger and aggression, usually in a non-constructive manner. I have also grown tired of searching through pages of "two words and a smiley" posts to read something of substance. I am tired of the constant bickering and rudeness. And I am tired of those who post without putting some sort of thought into what they are saying.

Am I saying I am more intelligent than you? No.
Am I saying I am better than you in any way? No.
Am I saying I am too old to be here? Yes.

I will be getting on with my life now. I have enjoyed my time here for the most part. I will miss the people closer to my age like Chev, watadoo, Missy, DJEgg, etc. I will also miss the people who offered something of value to this community like Radioactive Man, ethan_h, Jarsonic, Twilightseer, Ice, Sarge, and others. I wish you the best!

Goodbye and long live Winamp!!!

jns · 16th November 2001, 13:44

I, for one, will miss you.

Hope you find your way back here sometime, even we might get more mature..

Bop · 16th November 2001, 14:36

i'm sorry this forum hasn't lived up to your expectations randman, their are a lot of youngsters here, but i don't see that as a negative at all- a majority of the folks here are here because its fun, its a nice relaxing place to hang out with people who have common interests; i think that each member brings his or her own attributes to the forum, and help in making this one of the most active places on the net- as for the rudeness and bickering, that will pass, there are a lot of new members here, but when the ones that don't really contribute to the forums get weeded out, the lasting members (those who do like it here, and are willing to put thought into their statements) will continue to lighten and enlighten this place.

i hope that you find your avenue of expression and leisure and i hope that you will still visit once in a while, i wish you the best randman... take care of yourself and remember if you ever need to talk, vent, hang out, or just lurk, we'll all be here for you.

your fellow winamp cohort,
bop

missyob · 16th November 2001, 14:41

Dear Mr. Randman,

This is indeed, a very sad day for me. I will miss your intelligence, whit, and humor. I will miss your additions to this forum.

I agree there are many different topics, but that is what makes a group interesting.

Please keep in touch, my friend. Know that I will always remember you.

~ Missy

Kaboon · 16th November 2001, 15:45

This is another sad day for the forums...

It's really sad to hear that you'll leave us randman. I respect your choise though. I can imagine that you feel that you don't belong here. But I think that we do need people here like you! You're respected here by a lot of members. And most of all, by the people you've named. We need a guy like you for the mature conversations. I like your (sometimes humoristic) remarks and opinions on most of the topics. And I bet that I'm not the only one.

I wish you good luck with the real live, enjoy it! And I hope that you'll drop by agian, someday...

Greetings,
Eelko "Kaboon" Berkenpies

Anacific · 16th November 2001, 15:55

You will be remembered

. - .... .- -. .... · 16th November 2001, 15:56

randman,

this isn't going to ba a "please don't leave" post - you are old enough and competent enough to make your own decisions. However, I will say this - you will be sorely missed mby many of the members here. You have brought your reasoning to the forums, mature, intellectual and humourous posts which have yet to be equalled.

Sure, the majority of the members here are young, and their posts and threads will reflect this. But one thing I don't agree with is you saying that you are too old to be here. There is no cut-off point at which a member can no loger post, or doesn't fit in. You say that you will "miss the people who offered something of value to this community", without pausing to realise that you fall under this category too.

Take time off, sure, everybody needs it, but you have a lot of friends here who would prefer you to stay around.

Either way, take care,
regards,
Mike

. - .... .- -. .... · 16th November 2001, 15:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Anacific
You will be remembered

He's not dead

Curi0us_George · 16th November 2001, 18:06

I'm sorry you feel that way.

16th November 2001, 18:26

Bye Bye Randman, you will be missed

rm' · 16th November 2001, 18:37

Hmmph. I wish I could put in words what I feel.

Gonzotek · 16th November 2001, 18:47

I hope you read this Randman. I've always thought you were an interesting and fun personality on the board, even though I don't think we every exchanged any messages in a thread or privately. I'm 23, and I often feel that 20-25 is a lousy age range around here. I'm too old to act like this: "I'm u83r-1337! Ph3Ar M3 o1d d00ds!" And I'm too young to say "All you young whippersnappers do is flame and complain." I don't know what life will be like in 20 years, but right now I enjoy the forum for what it's worth -- like-minded people that enjoy using Nullsoft products. Sometimes there's humor, sometimes argument, and occasionally something really cool comes along.

My suggestion is to take a nice healthy break and then consider coming back in (please feel totally free to ignore me and my suggestions

). Personally, I try to avoid looking at the forums over weekend's, so I get a small break every week. It's very easy to be absorbed by them and getting back to the "real" world is something everyone should do. The thing is, in my "real" world, I'm the king tech. No, its not my super-ego speaking here, it's just that in my small town, there REALLY isn't anyone that wants to discuss computer/tech/internet topics AND is capable of doins so on my level. If I want to get some mental stimulation I have to come to a message board, and the Winamp forums are my board of choice.

Anyway, best of luck to you, I just wanted to get all that off my chest. It seems like a lot of regulars are jumping ship and everyone is losing out because of that.

-=Gonzotek=-

piesupreme · 16th November 2001, 18:49

dudes, there are 10 types of threads we find in these forums.

1. bitchin' threads
2. "i'm leaving" threads
3. "i now have X posts" threads
4. threads that have been moved.
5. "Hi! my name is" newbie threads
6. 'questions that have already been answered' threads
7. "link" threads
8. pointless threads
9. flame threads
10. threads that actually mean something to a majority of the boards, one's that people will want to read to gain knowledge about stuff they never really knew about.

(they're all links, examples that i found.)

fwgx · 16th November 2001, 19:34

Tatty bye. You'll be missed but I guess you've figured that by now.

jns · 16th November 2001, 20:51

Quote:

Originally posted by Radioactive Man
Hmmph. I wish I could put in words what I feel.

You said it better than me.

papadoc · 16th November 2001, 21:07

What is so amazing about Randman's post,
is that it comes at a time when I'm feeling exactly the same way.
I know exactly how he feels.
Incredible.

Bilbo Baggins · 16th November 2001, 21:52

You will be missed Randman. I love you *hugs*

Have a safe journey to where ever it is you are going. I hope your path is straight and trouble free.

Papadoc, please please please do not leave. We need more people like you. The life and souls of the forums. The people who always know what to say, and can say it brilliantly. I really look forward to reading a thread that you have posted in. PLEASE!!!

Huehuetenango · 16th November 2001, 22:10

have fun, randman
hope you have a good life

stop by anytime, if you feel like it

DoubleG · 17th November 2001, 00:34

Randman, I don't post all that much, but read often.
(As you could tell by looking at registered vs. posts)

You will be missed...

Peace

whiteflip · 17th November 2001, 01:29

i feel i am part of the problem with the youngen's and the spewing and the agression getting rid of ness and the two word plus

posting. oh well life goes on.

hopefully i was more constructive than i thought

ElChevelle · 17th November 2001, 01:55

The life of the forums is barely audible on my tricorder!

Fuggit! I can understand Rand's leaving.
I have no fun here anymore either, with the adolescence and idiocy that has taken hold here and the loss of the real juice that kept us alive from people such as Jaz, SLK, Watadoo, and many others who learned long ago that DragonballZ, Microsoft complaints, and idioticly enormous sigs were too much for anyone of average intelligence to endure.

I salute you, Rand and offer my sincere wishes for your future. Don't forget me and feel free to keep in touch in our journeys ahead

elchevelle@hotmail.com

banjoe-john · 17th November 2001, 05:21

I agree. Any more these forums seem to be an outlet for rage, anger, depression, etc. I, for one, think that we're better than that.
I myself have participated in a few arguments and i am sorry for that.

You will be sorely missed randman. I'm sure we're all sorry to see you go. But if you must, you must. Best of luck in all that you do.

Farewell!

jarsonic · 17th November 2001, 07:20

Man... Randman... you're one of the reasons I like coming here so much. I'll miss you. I wish you ell, hope you come bacl, and want you to know that your'e a really good poet. I mean it.

--grace and peace--

- Jarsonic

Bizznatch · 17th November 2001, 07:34

Sorry to hear that your leaving d00d, your prescence and intelligence will be missed here at the Winamp forums. You have been one of the top members of this forums since it began. Thank you so much for staying with us, and have a joyful and long life.

Peace Out,
The Bizz

papadoc · 17th November 2001, 19:06

Quote:

originally posted by Bilbo Baggins
Papadoc, please please please do not leave. We need more people like you. The life and souls of the forums. The people who always know what to say, and can say it brilliantly. I really look forward to reading a thread that you have posted in. PLEASE!!!

Thanks Bilbo.
Coming from you that means a great deal.
You have one of the most twisted

but incredible senses of humor and wit here. I too enjoy your posts.
You have a distinct and unique character here, and that's what is important.

I'm not going anywhere.
I may not post as much because I'm finding it harder
to find threads worth posting in.
But it seems these things run in cycles.

I will surely miss Randman. He was as close to my age and my background, as anyone here.
We had a great deal in common.
Too bad he made the choice he did...but I can absolutely respect his choice.
He'll be just fine whatever he does and whereever he goes.

Keep on truckin' Randman...

Bilbo Baggins · 17th November 2001, 22:34

Randman was one of the people that you coudl truly depend on in these forums to be unique, fresh, and utterly hilarious in his outlook.

And what you just said Papadoc just bought a tear to my eye

fish · 17th November 2001, 22:45

I'm gonna cry

Good bye Randy

Bop · 18th November 2001, 03:23

i have already written in this post and wished randman good-bye, and i do sincerely hope that all goes well with him; HOWEVER i do have a major problem with the people who complain about this place and then continue to stay anyways-

people bitch about there not being any decent threads and yet when was the last time those who complain tried to start something that they deemed "important"? i am sorry if this makes me unpopular but i really don't care- i feel that if you are not a part of the solution then you are a part of the problem... and i cannot remember the last time that chev, papadoc, randman or anybody else that wishes for the "old days" started a so-called "worthy" thread.

i have tried my hardest recently to start threads which might help people begin to talk about interesting things... sometimes they work sometimes they don't- i can't help that... but my philosophy is if you don't like it here.. why the heck do you continue to lurk about, thinking that the people who participate here are a bunch of morons?

chev you are great, you have helped me a lot in the past, but you have mentioned over and over that this place sucks; nowadays you make a little spiteful comment here and there, and then lurk away into the shadows again. if you think this place has turned into shit, then LEAVE, nobody's forcing you to stay... move on to better things

i think there are so many people focused on the bad things that they never remember the good things... i visit here regularly, at least once a day and everytime i'm on, i find that somebody has started an interesting topic... whether it be personal, thechnical, social, or whatever, i always enjoy my time here.... anyways, what i'm trying to say is basically this; if you don't like the winamp forums, if your time spent here is not enjoyable LEAVE, by staying and constantly complaining about it, you only contribute to the alleged "bad vibe". i think that it is very hypocritical and that this place can do without that type of negativity.

papadoc · 18th November 2001, 03:55

Since you brought my name up I must respond.
I'm not complaining and I'm certainly not lurking.
I absolutely agree that one should be a part of the solution
and not a part of the problem.
That's how I live my life.
Sometimes I have a problem with this place,
but do I run away from it?
Nope.
I stand squarely in the face of the problem and dare it to get the better of me.
You may not ever see that,
but believe me that's how I handle my problems.
Sometimes I just get frustrated, that's all.
Occasionally I may show that frustration as I did here.

As far as me starting a "worthy thread"...
When I first came here I tried that and they never went anywhere.
So I decided not to do that anymore.
But thanks to your observations Boplicity
you've helped me realize that I should try again.
You are a gifted individual and I respect your opinion.
I will in the future.

rm' · 18th November 2001, 03:57

You certainly should. Everyone should. Several threads of late have proven that intelligent discussion is possible here.

Bilbo Baggins · 18th November 2001, 16:00

Would those be your threads by any chance RM?

7icha7d · 18th November 2001, 18:01

I haven't been here long at all and I'm certainly a "youngster", but I'm really sad to see you go. I've always enjoyed your posts, and your departure will detract from the forums. I wish I could convince you to stay, but I can see why you feel the way you do, so I'll just say that I hope you'll find a forum that you enjoy more, and check back once in a while: you might find it's changed for the better.
Enjoy your life,
7icha7d.

rm' · 18th November 2001, 18:22

Quote:

Originally posted by Bilbo Baggins
Would those be your threads by any chance RM?

Bop's, for the most part.

Bilbo Baggins · 18th November 2001, 20:35

I was trying to suggest you were blowing your own trumpet (if you have had a rib removed). But i do agree, Bop has added an air of intelligence to the place. Long may it contue.

weedsatan · 19th November 2001, 03:04

Bye....

Go on live your life. you deserve it.. I hope you find ahppiness. Maybe come and tell us how your travels have been. We would like that...
I am gonna miss you. I've come to know you as a nice and understanding person.. And i believe we, as a forum gonna miss you..
But I'm happy you decided to live. For your's sake..

Happy go now on your travels..

bye now.

Stijn

Xerxes · 19th November 2001, 05:24

Hey- I wasn't on your list of people... you socialist fiend

Goodbye and godspeed you...

Twilightseer · 19th November 2001, 07:45

Check your mail, randman.

20th November 2001, 02:36

Sorry. I over-reacted to some things going on in the forums and got frustrated. The stupid thing was that it didn't even involve forum regulars. I appreciate your kind remarks and some e-mails and PM's. They are the reason I won't be leaving.

So now I feel embarrassed about acting as juvenile as some of the people I was complaining about. I'm sorry, I was serious about leaving when I started this thread. But my mom wasn't around to send me to my room for a timeout, so I prematurely lost my mind and started this thread.

papadoc · 20th November 2001, 03:12

Randman my friend.
So glad to see you back, sir.
Believe me I was just about to pull the plug too
at exactly the same time you did.
Also due to frustration.
But thanks to Bilbo and Boplicity and a couple of others
I didn't.
You are needed here more than you know.
Welcome back.

Bop · 20th November 2001, 03:30

glad you decided to stay rand'

*no hard feelings i hope*

16th November 2001, 13:43	#1
randman Guest Posts: n/a	What is a forum? Webster calls a forum "a place for the discussion of matters of public interest or of interest to a specific group". Over time I have come to realize that is not what these forums are for the most part. In large part these forums seem to be a place for young people to come and spew out all thier anger and aggression, usually in a non-constructive manner. I have also grown tired of searching through pages of "two words and a smiley" posts to read something of substance. I am tired of the constant bickering and rudeness. And I am tired of those who post without putting some sort of thought into what they are saying. Am I saying I am more intelligent than you? No. Am I saying I am better than you in any way? No. Am I saying I am too old to be here? Yes. I will be getting on with my life now. I have enjoyed my time here for the most part. I will miss the people closer to my age like Chev, watadoo, Missy, DJEgg, etc. I will also miss the people who offered something of value to this community like Radioactive Man, ethan_h, Jarsonic, Twilightseer, Ice, Sarge, and others. I wish you the best! Goodbye and long live Winamp!!!

16th November 2001, 14:36	#3
Bop Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,884	i'm sorry this forum hasn't lived up to your expectations randman, their are a lot of youngsters here, but i don't see that as a negative at all- a majority of the folks here are here because its fun, its a nice relaxing place to hang out with people who have common interests; i think that each member brings his or her own attributes to the forum, and help in making this one of the most active places on the net- as for the rudeness and bickering, that will pass, there are a lot of new members here, but when the ones that don't really contribute to the forums get weeded out, the lasting members (those who do like it here, and are willing to put thought into their statements) will continue to lighten and enlighten this place. i hope that you find your avenue of expression and leisure and i hope that you will still visit once in a while, i wish you the best randman... take care of yourself and remember if you ever need to talk, vent, hang out, or just lurk, we'll all be here for you. your fellow winamp cohort, bop ßoþL¡©¡†¥

16th November 2001, 15:45	#5
Kaboon Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,494	We'll sure miss ya! This is another sad day for the forums... It's really sad to hear that you'll leave us randman. I respect your choise though. I can imagine that you feel that you don't belong here. But I think that we do need people here like you! You're respected here by a lot of members. And most of all, by the people you've named. We need a guy like you for the mature conversations. I like your (sometimes humoristic) remarks and opinions on most of the topics. And I bet that I'm not the only one. I wish you good luck with the real live, enjoy it! And I hope that you'll drop by agian, someday... Greetings, Eelko "Kaboon" Berkenpies berkenpi.es

16th November 2001, 15:55	#6
Anacific Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,744	You will be remembered "He who desires but acts not, breeds pestilence." - William Blake WSPA \| WWF \| RSPCA \| AAPA \| Green Peace - Know and help... The Rainforest Site \| The Animal Rescue Site - Click and help...

16th November 2001, 15:56	#7
. - .... .- -. .... Backpacking Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: საქართველო (Georgia) Posts: 10,104	randman, this isn't going to ba a "please don't leave" post - you are old enough and competent enough to make your own decisions. However, I will say this - you will be sorely missed mby many of the members here. You have brought your reasoning to the forums, mature, intellectual and humourous posts which have yet to be equalled. Sure, the majority of the members here are young, and their posts and threads will reflect this. But one thing I don't agree with is you saying that you are too old to be here. There is no cut-off point at which a member can no loger post, or doesn't fit in. You say that you will "miss the people who offered something of value to this community", without pausing to realise that you fall under this category too. Take time off, sure, everybody needs it, but you have a lot of friends here who would prefer you to stay around. Either way, take care, regards, Mike Like my photography? Buy some here....

16th November 2001, 13:44	#2
jns Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,175	I, for one, will miss you. Hope you find your way back here sometime, even we might get more mature..

16th November 2001, 14:41	#4
missyob Angel of Winamp Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Winamp House Posts: 4,578	Dear Mr. Randman, This is indeed, a very sad day for me. I will miss your intelligence, whit, and humor. I will miss your additions to this forum. I agree there are many different topics, but that is what makes a group interesting. Please keep in touch, my friend. Know that I will always remember you. ~ Missy

16th November 2001, 18:06	#9
Curi0us_George Forum King Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: -1 Posts: 5,179	I'm sorry you feel that way. For the freedom to express myself in my own way without fear of being censored or banned. 47 65 6C 61 65 64 2E 63 6F 6D 00

16th November 2001, 18:26	#10
NuLoser Guest Posts: n/a	Bye Bye Randman, you will be missed

16th November 2001, 18:37	#11
rm' Banned Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 11,361	Hmmph. I wish I could put in words what I feel.

16th November 2001, 18:47	#12
Gonzotek Gunslinger Join Date: May 2000 Location: Terminus Posts: 4,693	I hope you read this Randman. I've always thought you were an interesting and fun personality on the board, even though I don't think we every exchanged any messages in a thread or privately. I'm 23, and I often feel that 20-25 is a lousy age range around here. I'm too old to act like this: "I'm u83r-1337! Ph3Ar M3 o1d d00ds!" And I'm too young to say "All you young whippersnappers do is flame and complain." I don't know what life will be like in 20 years, but right now I enjoy the forum for what it's worth -- like-minded people that enjoy using Nullsoft products. Sometimes there's humor, sometimes argument, and occasionally something really cool comes along. My suggestion is to take a nice healthy break and then consider coming back in (please feel totally free to ignore me and my suggestions ). Personally, I try to avoid looking at the forums over weekend's, so I get a small break every week. It's very easy to be absorbed by them and getting back to the "real" world is something everyone should do. The thing is, in my "real" world, I'm the king tech. No, its not my super-ego speaking here, it's just that in my small town, there REALLY isn't anyone that wants to discuss computer/tech/internet topics AND is capable of doins so on my level. If I want to get some mental stimulation I have to come to a message board, and the Winamp forums are my board of choice. Anyway, best of luck to you, I just wanted to get all that off my chest. It seems like a lot of regulars are jumping ship and everyone is losing out because of that. -=Gonzotek=- I was away for a while. But I'm feeling much better now.

16th November 2001, 18:49	#13
piesupreme Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: drum'n'bass mecca Posts: 856	dudes, there are 10 types of threads we find in these forums. 1. bitchin' threads 2. "i'm leaving" threads 3. "i now have X posts" threads 4. threads that have been moved. 5. "Hi! my name is" newbie threads 6. 'questions that have already been answered' threads 7. "link" threads 8. pointless threads 9. flame threads 10. threads that actually mean something to a majority of the boards, one's that people will want to read to gain knowledge about stuff they never really knew about. (they're all links, examples that i found.) use the search, that's what it's there for. Jungle Ravers never die, all we do is multiply

16th November 2001, 19:34	#14
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,314	Tatty bye. You'll be missed but I guess you've figured that by now. "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

16th November 2001, 21:07	#16
papadoc Comfortably Numb (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 4,619	What is so amazing about Randman's post, is that it comes at a time when I'm feeling exactly the same way. I know exactly how he feels. Incredible.

16th November 2001, 21:52	#17
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,228	You will be missed Randman. I love you hugs Have a safe journey to where ever it is you are going. I hope your path is straight and trouble free. Papadoc, please please please do not leave. We need more people like you. The life and souls of the forums. The people who always know what to say, and can say it brilliantly. I really look forward to reading a thread that you have posted in. PLEASE!!!

16th November 2001, 22:10	#18
Huehuetenango Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,546	have fun, randman hope you have a good life stop by anytime, if you feel like it

17th November 2001, 00:34	#19
DoubleG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Woodridge, IL, USA Posts: 155	Randman, I don't post all that much, but read often. (As you could tell by looking at registered vs. posts) You will be missed... Peace Cute sayingless

17th November 2001, 01:29	#20
whiteflip Post Master General (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Seattle, Now Las Vegas Posts: 6,032	i feel i am part of the problem with the youngen's and the spewing and the agression getting rid of ness and the two word plus posting. oh well life goes on. hopefully i was more constructive than i thought I'm Back?

17th November 2001, 01:55	#21
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,448	The life of the forums is barely audible on my tricorder! Fuggit! I can understand Rand's leaving. I have no fun here anymore either, with the adolescence and idiocy that has taken hold here and the loss of the real juice that kept us alive from people such as Jaz, SLK, Watadoo, and many others who learned long ago that DragonballZ, Microsoft complaints, and idioticly enormous sigs were too much for anyone of average intelligence to endure. I salute you, Rand and offer my sincere wishes for your future. Don't forget me and feel free to keep in touch in our journeys ahead elchevelle@hotmail.com

17th November 2001, 05:21	#22
banjoe-john Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: On the side of a River, in california Posts: 402	I agree. Any more these forums seem to be an outlet for rage, anger, depression, etc. I, for one, think that we're better than that. I myself have participated in a few arguments and i am sorry for that. You will be sorely missed randman. I'm sure we're all sorry to see you go. But if you must, you must. Best of luck in all that you do. Farewell!

17th November 2001, 07:20	#23
jarsonic Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 1,114	Man... Randman... you're one of the reasons I like coming here so much. I'll miss you. I wish you ell, hope you come bacl, and want you to know that your'e a really good poet. I mean it. --grace and peace-- - Jarsonic do justly \| love mercy \| walk humbly

17th November 2001, 07:34	#24
Bizznatch Forum King Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,180	Sorry to hear that your leaving d00d, your prescence and intelligence will be missed here at the Winamp forums. You have been one of the top members of this forums since it began. Thank you so much for staying with us, and have a joyful and long life. Peace Out, The Bizz

17th November 2001, 22:34	#26
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,228	Randman was one of the people that you coudl truly depend on in these forums to be unique, fresh, and utterly hilarious in his outlook. And what you just said Papadoc just bought a tear to my eye

17th November 2001, 22:45	#27
fish Pretty Cool Guy Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Cle, OH, USA Posts: 4,847	I'm gonna cry Good bye Randy

18th November 2001, 03:23	#28
Bop Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,884	i have already written in this post and wished randman good-bye, and i do sincerely hope that all goes well with him; HOWEVER i do have a major problem with the people who complain about this place and then continue to stay anyways- people bitch about there not being any decent threads and yet when was the last time those who complain tried to start something that they deemed "important"? i am sorry if this makes me unpopular but i really don't care- i feel that if you are not a part of the solution then you are a part of the problem... and i cannot remember the last time that chev, papadoc, randman or anybody else that wishes for the "old days" started a so-called "worthy" thread. i have tried my hardest recently to start threads which might help people begin to talk about interesting things... sometimes they work sometimes they don't- i can't help that... but my philosophy is if you don't like it here.. why the heck do you continue to lurk about, thinking that the people who participate here are a bunch of morons? chev you are great, you have helped me a lot in the past, but you have mentioned over and over that this place sucks; nowadays you make a little spiteful comment here and there, and then lurk away into the shadows again. if you think this place has turned into shit, then LEAVE, nobody's forcing you to stay... move on to better things i think there are so many people focused on the bad things that they never remember the good things... i visit here regularly, at least once a day and everytime i'm on, i find that somebody has started an interesting topic... whether it be personal, thechnical, social, or whatever, i always enjoy my time here.... anyways, what i'm trying to say is basically this; if you don't like the winamp forums, if your time spent here is not enjoyable LEAVE, by staying and constantly complaining about it, you only contribute to the alleged "bad vibe". i think that it is very hypocritical and that this place can do without that type of negativity. ßoþL¡©¡†¥

18th November 2001, 03:55	#29
papadoc Comfortably Numb (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 4,619	Since you brought my name up I must respond. I'm not complaining and I'm certainly not lurking. I absolutely agree that one should be a part of the solution and not a part of the problem. That's how I live my life. Sometimes I have a problem with this place, but do I run away from it? Nope. I stand squarely in the face of the problem and dare it to get the better of me. You may not ever see that, but believe me that's how I handle my problems. Sometimes I just get frustrated, that's all. Occasionally I may show that frustration as I did here. As far as me starting a "worthy thread"... When I first came here I tried that and they never went anywhere. So I decided not to do that anymore. But thanks to your observations Boplicity you've helped me realize that I should try again. You are a gifted individual and I respect your opinion. I will in the future.

18th November 2001, 03:57	#30
rm' Banned Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 11,361	You certainly should. Everyone should. Several threads of late have proven that intelligent discussion is possible here.

18th November 2001, 16:00	#31
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,228	Would those be your threads by any chance RM?

18th November 2001, 18:01	#32
7icha7d Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: in between 2 headphones Posts: 382	I haven't been here long at all and I'm certainly a "youngster", but I'm really sad to see you go. I've always enjoyed your posts, and your departure will detract from the forums. I wish I could convince you to stay, but I can see why you feel the way you do, so I'll just say that I hope you'll find a forum that you enjoy more, and check back once in a while: you might find it's changed for the better. Enjoy your life, 7icha7d.

18th November 2001, 20:35	#34
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,228	I was trying to suggest you were blowing your own trumpet (if you have had a rib removed). But i do agree, Bop has added an air of intelligence to the place. Long may it contue.

19th November 2001, 03:04	#35
weedsatan Forum King Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Under the Ground Posts: 2,303	Bye.... Go on live your life. you deserve it.. I hope you find ahppiness. Maybe come and tell us how your travels have been. We would like that... I am gonna miss you. I've come to know you as a nice and understanding person.. And i believe we, as a forum gonna miss you.. But I'm happy you decided to live. For your's sake.. Happy go now on your travels.. bye now. Stijn "Insanity -- a perfectly rational adjustment to an insane world." -R. D. Lang

19th November 2001, 05:24	#36
Xerxes Capitalist Alumni Join Date: May 2000 Location: my 4 Houses on Park Place Posts: 8,688	Hey- I wasn't on your list of people... you socialist fiend Goodbye and godspeed you...

19th November 2001, 07:45	#37
Twilightseer Frenchoderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Lavabo, fond du couloir, 3è porte à droite Posts: 6,309	Check your mail, randman.

20th November 2001, 02:36	#38
randman Guest Posts: n/a	Sorry. I over-reacted to some things going on in the forums and got frustrated. The stupid thing was that it didn't even involve forum regulars. I appreciate your kind remarks and some e-mails and PM's. They are the reason I won't be leaving. So now I feel embarrassed about acting as juvenile as some of the people I was complaining about. I'm sorry, I was serious about leaving when I started this thread. But my mom wasn't around to send me to my room for a timeout, so I prematurely lost my mind and started this thread.

20th November 2001, 03:12	#39
papadoc Comfortably Numb (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 4,619	Randman my friend. So glad to see you back, sir. Believe me I was just about to pull the plug too at exactly the same time you did. Also due to frustration. But thanks to Bilbo and Boplicity and a couple of others I didn't. You are needed here more than you know. Welcome back.