Old 4th February 2002, 00:43   #1
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After installing the Veritas CD burning plugin, Winamp stopped working. WinDoctor found about 30 invalid file ext. which it wanted to delete. After letting WinDoctor do it thing, I decided to uninstall everything and start again. Now everytime I click to listen to a station on their menu, I get a download window containing a playlist file. I put the file in the Winamp directory but each time I try to play a station it just offers up the same playlist file over again. Any ideas on how to get it to work.
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Old 4th February 2002, 01:17   #2
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The Veritas CD Burner plugin has adverse side-effects to Winamp. Its a really annoying plug-in. First of all, have you uninstalled the CD burning plug in? Not Winamp, just the plug-in. That may be what's causing these weird things in Winamp. To uninstall it, there may be a uninstaller program when you go to Add/Remove programs in the Control Panel.

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Old 4th February 2002, 01:43   #3
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Yes, but I uninstalled both the plugin and Winamp and now just have Winamp installed. Of course, originally, when a radio station was selected there was a brief appearance of a download window, but the player found it automatically and would play. Now, as I said, the download window appears and waits for a manual installation, which after being done, the player does not seem to able to find it.
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Thats because Winamp may have been de-selected as the default media player. Do you have any other programs running like Real Player, or Windows Media Player? These programs also cause Winamp to function abnormally. They use streaming data codecs specifically for their own programs.

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Old 4th February 2002, 02:20   #5
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Hmmm, I went to Options>Preferences>File Types and selected all, but yet, it still does the same thing.
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Old 4th February 2002, 05:31   #6
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Okay, I'm here now

We're talkin' about SHOUTcast stations here, yes?
And Winamp is definitely your default playlist player?
(ie. both .PLS and .M3U are associated properly?)


Anyway, try this:

Windows Folder Options -> File Types tab
Scroll down for and hi-lite: PLS (Winamp Playlist File)
Win9x -> click "Edit" button | WinME/2k/XP -> Click "Advanced" button
Uncheck "confirm open after download"

If the problem/s persist, look at these threads for further tips:

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=37053
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=37700
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=71293

Two of these involve emptying the internet cache, the other involves a regfix.
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Old 4th February 2002, 10:53   #7
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DJEgg,

The second link that you provided did the trick for me. Thank you for this help.

Perhaps, you can help me with another question. My favorite radio station, OTR Now Live!, sometimes appears on the Winamp menu and at other times is doesn't. I can usually find it when I can get to the ShoutCast menu, but I haven't figured out how to control this, why is there two different menus? Also, is there a way to preset a station so that It isn't necessary to hunt for it.

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Old 4th February 2002, 22:16   #8
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I don't know what is going on here, After getting it working as it should, I was listening to a broadcast just now, and it quit and would not reconnect. Now when I click on any station on the Winamp menu, it has started coming up with the download message box again. I went back to confirm that the settings that I had made earlier hadn't changed, and the had not. Is it going to be necessary to fight this problem on a daily basis, to be able to enjoy it? Any suggestions?
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Old 4th February 2002, 22:49   #9
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Oh heck!

I don't know what's going on here either.

Try unchecking "register files on Winamp start" in Winamp Prefs -> Filetypes.
Then make the necessary adjustments again.
(was it the missing audio/x-scpls fix? If not, which fix did you use exactly?)

btw, What's your Windows OS ?


Re: instant access to stations...
That's what the bookmark list is for!

Main Menu -> Bookmarks -> Add current to bookmark list
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Oh heck!

I don't know what's going on here either.

Try unchecking "register files on Winamp start" in Winamp Prefs -> Filetypes.
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I had already done this.
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Then make the necessary adjustments again.
(was it the missing audio/x-scpls fix? If not, which fix did you use exactly?)
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I used this link: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=37700
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btw, What's your Windows OS ?
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W98SE
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Re: instant access to stations...
That's what the bookmark list is for!

Main Menu -> Bookmarks -> Add current to bookmark list
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There is a check box on the download windows which says: ask before opening this kind of file. or something to that effect, but when I access the menu from IE, this box is checked and greyed out. If I access it from Opera, I can uncheck the box, and then I don't get this box, but it open a window for selecting a download location. I downloaded the playlist into the main Winamp directory. Still it continues to repeat this each time I select a station.
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Old 5th February 2002, 01:24   #11
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Yeah, it's the first link I provided above which provides the fix.
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=37053

It's the missing "audio/x-scpls" MIME Type that's causing it.
You'll need to create this entry in the registry.

You can either do it manually:

start -> run -> regedit
Create a new key called "audio/x-scpls" with string "Extension=.pls" as follows:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Content Type\audio/x-scpls
Extension = .pls

Or follow jwnin's instructions in this post.
(ie. copy+paste text to a .reg file and run it)

If you need further instructions, don't hesitate to ask
If so, please tell me what your Windows OS is first.
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I've done a little editing of the registry before, but don't feel too comfortable with it yet. That's the reason I skipped over this link before. I think I would prefer to use the automatic method, I think I understand the general idea but am not sure. since the text is saved to the temp folder, I assume it is not necessary to remain there after the edit is complete, true? It says everything below the line, but this doesn't include the title REGEDIT 4, or does it? lastly, to import it, I would just select import within regedit and point it to this file? Do I point it at the text as a whole or to each individual entry? One last dumb question, why is the automatic method contain so much more text than your manual method? Again my operating system is Windows 98SE.
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Old 5th February 2002, 20:12   #14
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No! No! No! No!

REGEDIT4 is the file header for .REG files and is required.

The correct method is to hi-lite all the text with the mouse,
Ctrl+C to copy,
Open Notepad,
Ctrl+V to paste,
File Menu -> Save As
Change "Save as type" from "Text Documents" to "All Files"
Type in a name, eg. pls.reg
Then Save the file to anywhere on your Hard Drive you wish.
(jwnin just suggested to save it to a Temp Folder).
Then, in Explorer, goto where you saved pls.reg
and from the File Menu, select "Merge".
(If "Merge" is bolded, ie. the default action, you can just double click it)
And that's it! No need to open Regedit.
And yes, you can safely delete the reg file afterwards.
(Or back it up in a zip file incase you ever need it again)

The reason why jwnin's version is bigger is because he was being thorough,
ie. he's included more than the one RegKey.

Anyway, what I'll do is attach a Reg file in a zip.
Open the zip and extract the Reg file (to anywhere)
Run the Reg File.
Delete Reg File
Voila.
(maybe keep the zip file for backup purposes)

I've included two reg files in the zip:

1) pls.reg

This is the smaller version.
Try merging this first.
Then Reboot
Then go back to Folder Options -> File Types -> PLS (Winamp Playlist File)
and make sure "confirm open after download" is still unchecked.

2) pls_full.reg

This is exactly the same as jwnin's version.
Merge this only if the first reg file fails.


Fingers crossed
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Old 5th February 2002, 23:15   #15
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Partial success!

I clicked the wrong button, so I had to move this to where it belongs.
Hey, It took both of the files in the zip, but it works now! But, only when selected from IE. I still just opens a download window when I select it from Opera. I've got a post on the Opera forum, hoping they will have an answer for this. Now, if you could convince the people over at OTR Now to get a bigger server...?

Since that Veritas CD burner causes so much trouble, why do they make it available?

Thanks greatly for the help,

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Old 6th February 2002, 00:57   #16
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Yeah, well the regfix is for IE only. Glad to see it worked! Yay!

Opera is a separate issue.
Sorry, I don't use Opera, but some of the forum regulars in General Discussions do, eg. Radioactive Man has been known to favor Opera (though I don't know if he still uses it).

If it's anything like other browsers (eg. Netscape), you have to set the file associations & MIME types from within the browser's preferences.

The command line to open with Winamp is:
"C:\Program Files\Winamp\Winamp.exe" "%1"

The MIME for .pls is one of audio/scpls or audio/x-scpls


As for the buggy Veritas p.o.s. plugin, well I've always maintained that there should be a disclaimer warning on the plugins/download pages, stating words to the effect of:
Download/Install any 3rd-party plugins at your own risk. Nullsoft are not responsible for any errors caused by any of these plugins. Report any bugs/problems to the author of the plugin.
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Actually, I'm pretty certain that is the configuration setup for Winamp that I had already gotten from the Opera site.

The caveat that you mentioned, wouldn't really help at all nearly all software says that...both the good and the bad. So it wouldn't really indicate anything.

anyway, thanks again
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DJEgg

Well, it worked for a little while, but then it started doing the same thing again (asking where to download). So, I ran the two registry files that you gave me again. Now when the download window appears there is also an error box that says: "C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5\CK5MB91R\SHOUTCAST PLAYLIST[1].PLS" and "Access to specified device,path or file denied".

Do you have anymore ideas, or is this a hopeless cause?
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Old 16th February 2002, 01:25   #19
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Most strange!

The regfix fixed it for over a week now, but all of a sudden the problem's come back and now you get ^that^ error message even after running the regfix ?!?!

btw, you should only need to run the 2nd reg file (pls_full.reg) because this one also includes the single reg key from the 1st reg file.

So . . . you must've done something else since all this first began, because although it's related, this is a slightly different problem than the initial one.

Try emptying the internet cache again (as explained in those links from above). Maybe the cache has got too full or corrupted?

If that isn't the case & emptying the cache doesn't fix it,
then is RealPlayer8 or RealOne installed?
And has it been used prior to this new problem occuring?

If so, check this thread for full instructions:
How to Unassociate RP8 from Streaming Playlists & Make Winamp the Default Instead

The thread also includes two auto regfixes:
A MIME.reg fix and a full regfix.reg
Both have been confirmed to work on many occasions for many people.
But only use the regfixes after following the full instructions in the thread. Infact, in some cases, some people have confirmed that they didn't need to use the regfixes because the instructions preceding them were enough to fix the problem.

IE5.5+ error message (cannot access specified device...)
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q264/4/81.asp (utter crap)
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=50378 (RP8 related yet again!)
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=45362 (confirmation MIME regfix works)



That just about covers all the available fixes, but to prevent it from happening again, then you need to tell me what it is you're doing to cause it in the first place.
Have you been playing around with Windows Folder Options -> File Types, or messing with the Registry or something? Or is it RP8 to blame, or something else? And what's this WinDoctor thing all about? Or have you been installing some other dodgy software? (QuickTime5, MusicMatch, etc)

btw #1, ya know when you first replied to my first post above?
Where you said "The second link that you provided did the trick for me"...
Well, can you confirm EXACTLY what it was you did? Because there's a few different fixes referenced in that thread.
Anyway, the MIME.reg fix should fix it, this time for real.
Trust me . . . give it a shot!

btw #2, I also should've pointed you to these threads a lot earlier:

Skin menu appearing in playback menu in v2.78c (Veritas CD Burner plugin bug)
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=69503
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=69281
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=69305
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=69206
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=69403
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=70944 (no bookmark list)

The first link includes a list of all the Veritas plugin files,
just in case you didn't get rid of the p.o.s. properly

And, if you ever run into any major Winamp-specific problems again:

Basic Uninstall -> Reinstall procedure:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=50818


Again . . . good luck!
And let us know how ya get on.
Fingers crossed!


ps. did you manage to get Opera to work?
btw, just a quick tip...
You can drag & drop the "listen" or "tune-in" links from the browser straight into Winamp's playlist window.
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Your comment about Quick Time Player probably explains the problem. I had both installed and uninstalled this during the interim that this problem reoccurred (I will never install Real Player for other reasons). Knowing the cause has not given me the answer as yet. I did clear the cache again to no effect, but I wasn't sure if any of the information about Real Player would apply to QT. There is a couple of things that I would like to use QT for...is it possible for Winamp and QT to live together peacefully? (Come to think of it, they did work together, before my last reformat).
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Quote: The regfix fixed it for over a week now, but all of a sudden the problem's come back and now you get ^that^ error message even after running the regfix ?!?!
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Just to clarify, before running the regfix the download window appeared without the error, but after the running the regfix again, is when the error also started appearing.

WinDoctor is a Norton utility for cleaning the registry, but this had no part in creating the problem. I mentioned it only because it failed to provide a solution.


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Oh heck!

More links for ya

QT5 related problems:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=53443
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=51355
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=51164
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=50857
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=32795

M$ Support Fix article:
http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q180/5/53.ASP

My synopsis on the M$ Support article is included in the first link above.
Basically, don't remove the whole registry key, because other software might require some of those keys for functionality.
Just remove any reference to MP3, M3U, PLS file extensions
and any MIME references to audio/mpeg | audio/x-mpeg | audio/mpegurl | etc
via the following registry keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Plugins\Extension

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Plugins\MIME

If those keys don't exist (see first link for full details) then just follow the rest of the instructions in that thread. ie. removing filetype and MIME associations from QT5 Control Panel. You might also have to remove the MP3, M3U and PLS extensions in Windows Folder Options -> File Types tab, then reassociate them again via Winamp Prefs -> Filetypes.

I've gotta say that this is one mighty sh*tty mess, and I'm just about sick of hearing of all these problems caused by either RealPlayer, QuickTime or MusicMatch Jukebox.

For QuickTime, I recommend sticking with QT4
QT5 is one of the buggiest/problematic pieces of software in existence.

For RealPlayer, if you really need it (for RA, RAM, RM, SMIL, etc, formats)
then I recommend nothing higher than v7 basic.
All versions above are buggy / intrusive / spyware / bloatware / crap!
Though, after all, if you can totally avoid installing it, you'd be better.
Personally, I've totally boycotted ALL Real formats. These days, if I visit any web sites which use Real formats, I exit instantly (ie. I don't wanna know)

I hope you get this mess sorted out.
Let me know how ya get on and whether you require any further assistance.

Ideally, you'd think that everything should be fixed by simply re-installing Winamp, but it depends on how much damage to the registry RP & QT have done.

The main thing to remember when installing anything like QT and RP is to uncheck all the options during setup, especially things like "make RP/QT the default player" and "associate with all compatible filetypes", etc etc.
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It turned out not to be necessary to use all of the information the you provided, but it is no less appreciated, because using it caused me to make a number of changes in preparation to use them.

In ripping out all of the wires, I changed the directory to the default position and this revealed that somehow Winamp had gotten tangled with the Motherboard Monitor log file. Also I removed the previous regedits and only reinstalled the full version. I'm not sure which change was the one that worked, but one must have been, for it works again!

Thank you very much, your help has been amazing.
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