What is Nullsoft Streaming Video (NSV)?

theancient · 13th July 2002, 20:19

WA3 has been installing a "Nullsoft Streaming Video (NSV)" plugin for some time now, but I can't find any mention of this format anywhere. What is it?

Naamloos · 13th July 2002, 20:31

NSV + some sort of shoutcast = fun

i dunno if im correct, but it sounds like that for me

jarsonic · 13th July 2002, 21:30

Quote:

Originally posted by theancient
WA3 has been installing a "Nullsoft Streaming Video (NSV)" plugin for some time now, but I can't find any mention of this format anywhere. What is it?

It is magic.

- Jarsonic

will · 13th July 2002, 22:22

Stop jarsonicing jarsonic!

Actually, it is magic. And its new, and you'll not find an awful lot of info about it now, but I'd imagine people will start hearing about it soon, but I dunno when, what or how.

Darkain · 13th July 2002, 23:58

well, i forget the news sources, but AOL has already anounced that it has a new elite streaming video technology that is exclusive to them, and they are dropping real player. i bet that this is what AOL was talking about.

Ice · 14th July 2002, 02:10

i've heard about it too. it had somthing to do with routers that could stream more efficiently. i think they were also testing it out on shoutcast streams for a while.

Darkain · 14th July 2002, 02:25

AOL for the networking equipment... Time-Warner for the media (like TV shows).... and Nullsoft for the best media software in the world.

who agrees that this is going to be a good thing here?

Rocker · 14th July 2002, 02:58

yay a thread on nsv.... i'm amazed it took this long for one to be made.

Naamloos · 14th July 2002, 09:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Ice
i think they were also testing it out on shoutcast streams for a while.

Is that the conversion some shoutcast stations are taking?

will · 14th July 2002, 15:22

Quote:

Originally posted by N e m e s s i s
i believe NSV is nullsoft video. or am i wrong?

Thats what i thought. Mainly because what I have gathered suggests that it is by no way limited to streaming.

cmisker · 14th July 2002, 17:54

Is there any real info on this? I mean, websites or anything???

Gonzotek · 14th July 2002, 18:35

A search for nsv Nullsoft yields an unrelated link to zlib, this, which appears to be a Justin Frankel site, and an old, old NSDN beta news report. And some other amusingingly odd, but unrelated links.

-=Gonzotek=-

Plague · 14th July 2002, 23:45

just a thought, maybe this is why the shoutcast server lister is removed at the moment?
maybe it's beeing upgraded with more features and some l33t nsv features..

as I said, it's just a thought..

-Plague

liquidmotion · 16th July 2002, 16:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Naamloos
NSV + some sort of shoutcast = fun

i dunno if im correct, but it sounds like that for me

you're damn right it sounds fun!

CraigF · 18th July 2002, 10:19

everything everyone has said so far is wrong, so keep on guessing

Arvenius · 18th July 2002, 10:36

well
basically nsv is a new container-format, just like avi
but i think justin added some new features to improve its streaming-quality... not just over shoutcast.. so dudes, do all you DVD-rips in nsv/divx instead of avi/divx, thx ;=)

frenchtouch · 18th July 2002, 16:59

*.nsv file will also be able to specify how they were encoded I think. Kind of meta-data about video files, but I don't understand yet the real benefit above the meta-data currently used in AVI standard.

dj_rigo · 2nd August 2002, 20:28

does the nsv format really exist or is the plugin pure fluff?

jarsonic · 2nd August 2002, 21:40

I have a few movie clips in .nsv.

It is very real.

- Jarsonic

nothin2g · 2nd August 2002, 22:57

http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/news/062802/index.asp
...great big deal?

LENZ.NET · 3rd August 2002, 08:21

Nothing like a bit of Jarsonicing.

Rocker · 3rd August 2002, 08:53

Quote:

Originally posted by LENZ.NET
Nothing like a bit of Jarsonicing.

heh

dj_rigo · 3rd August 2002, 18:03

Quote:

Originally posted by nothin2g
http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/news/062802/index.asp
...great big deal?

wow

Wildrose-Wally · 19th August 2002, 00:39

Quote:

NSV is a new video format. It is designed to be easily streamed, support any audio and video codec, and be usable on nearly any platform. Currently NSV utilizes MP3 for audio and VP3 for video.

A number of years ago, I had 3 ABBA video cd's, and I took the dat files out and sold them.

With the proper plugins I could play those dat files on Winamp 2, although sometimes it was a bit buggy.

With the advent of WA3 I converted them to mpg files, they played good in WA3, no plug-ins required. (and NOT upside down.

)

Over the weekend I have converted them to Nullsoft Streaming Video, or nsv files, and I know why that will be the format of choice for streaming. The files are ONE THIRD the size of the mpg or dat files, without a loss in quality. I am very pleased with the results.

How would you like 3 video CD's on one disk?

http://www.nullsoft.com/nsv

lunarboy1 · 19th August 2002, 03:21

hmmm.. seems like this one is justin's baby

Vica · 19th August 2002, 04:36

Let me see if I can do the math:

Ultravox + Winamp3 Technology = $$$ for AOL

Chapiel · 19th August 2002, 05:34

The video section on winamp.com seems to use these. I agree looks good.

Chapiel · 19th August 2002, 06:01

Just one question, how do you convert files to .nsv?

Thanks

Tomato Face · 19th August 2002, 06:39

Use the NSV Encoding Tools which are on the above mentioned site! (http://www.nullsoft.com/nsv/)

Cody · 20th August 2002, 06:56

NSV is just a baby. Will AOL(c) do the right thing and pimp it? The Video side of things is vp3 from On2. Jump over and check out On2's vp5 codac way better then vp3 by a long shot.

will · 20th August 2002, 08:09

As far as i can tell, there is nothing to stop you encoding an nsv file using vp5 for the video, and ogg for the sound. (You'll have to make the encoding and decoding plugins yourself, but soon other people might do that)

Cody · 20th August 2002, 08:47

vp5 is not out right now to the public that I knoew of. If you can encode it it let me know the nsv part will be cake *grin* vp5 to encode you need a usb or other dongle

frenchtouch · 20th August 2002, 14:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Cody
NSV is just a baby. Will AOL(c) do the right thing and pimp it? The Video side of things is vp3 from On2. Jump over and check out On2's vp5 codac way better then vp3 by a long shot.

Don't believe marketing guys and website. Download and test the open source VP3 and VP5 and you'll difference is not that impressive...

Cody · 20th August 2002, 19:44

vp5 kicks vp3's ASS in the low speed end of things. I said BS to vp5 for a long time till I got stuck on a slow speed link from hell and WOW it kicks ASS for "the little people" on 99% of aol video can now be sent to them all from in house devs. (cept for video side of things). Will it be paid for or will it be napster all over again with video? Will Aol(c) pimp winamp video to all of aol users? I bet winamp will blend nice now in any next gen aol "control" software. Easy to change for the "new" look...to the all new.....

IANAUN · 16th May 2004, 06:50

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Inedible Bulk · 16th May 2004, 07:49

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Originally posted by IANAUN
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I do hope you get some kind of big trouble for bumping a thread OVER A YEAR OLD. WITH THE LETTER a. B4N.

sankt · 16th May 2004, 12:49

Quote:

I do hope you get some kind of big trouble for bumping a thread OVER A YEAR OLD. WITH THE LETTER a. B4N.

Why are you on a crusade to belittle people ? Do you really have that much fun doing it?

Gonzotek · 16th May 2004, 12:52

Inedible Bulk, chill out. If you think a post violates one of our forum rules, feel free to use the 'report this post' link. But the rest of IANAUN's posting history seems like honest tech support inquiries. We usually encourage people to search for and use old threads rather than starting new ones on the same subject. Perhaps he just hit the submit button at the wrong moment? An honest mistake doesn't get you banned, nor would the odd single post bump ...90% of our regular members would be guilty of that. Again, if you do think that something requires the attention of the moderators, either report the post or contact a mod via PM.

13th July 2002, 20:19	#1
theancient Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 34	What is Nullsoft Streaming Video (NSV)? WA3 has been installing a "Nullsoft Streaming Video (NSV)" plugin for some time now, but I can't find any mention of this format anywhere. What is it?

13th July 2002, 22:22	#4
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	Stop jarsonicing jarsonic! Actually, it is magic. And its new, and you'll not find an awful lot of info about it now, but I'd imagine people will start hearing about it soon, but I dunno when, what or how. DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

13th July 2002, 23:58	#5
Darkain Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,223	well, i forget the news sources, but AOL has already anounced that it has a new elite streaming video technology that is exclusive to them, and they are dropping real player. i bet that this is what AOL was talking about. -=- Darkain Dragoon -=- -=- RM-X Home Page - Controlling Winamp via RM-900, RM-1000, RM-1500, ATI Remote Wonder, Joysticks, Gamepads, Wheels, Keyboard shortcuts, Multimedia keyboards, across the net, and much more! -=- Defenestration !!! -=-

14th July 2002, 02:10	#6
Ice Moderator Alumni Americas Favorite Smut Peddler Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Sun Prarie, WI Posts: 3,303	i've heard about it too. it had somthing to do with routers that could stream more efficiently. i think they were also testing it out on shoutcast streams for a while. I'd like to meet a mad man who makes it all seem sane To work out all these troubles and what there is to gain

14th July 2002, 02:25	#7
Darkain Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,223	AOL for the networking equipment... Time-Warner for the media (like TV shows).... and Nullsoft for the best media software in the world. who agrees that this is going to be a good thing here? -=- Darkain Dragoon -=- -=- RM-X Home Page - Controlling Winamp via RM-900, RM-1000, RM-1500, ATI Remote Wonder, Joysticks, Gamepads, Wheels, Keyboard shortcuts, Multimedia keyboards, across the net, and much more! -=- Defenestration !!! -=-

13th July 2002, 20:31	#2
Naamloos Forum King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: irc.tehflap.org/******* Posts: 3,085	NSV + some sort of shoutcast = fun i dunno if im correct, but it sounds like that for me

14th July 2002, 02:58	#8
Rocker Hiding in plain sight (mod) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 9,910	yay a thread on nsv.... i'm amazed it took this long for one to be made.

14th July 2002, 17:54	#11
cmisker Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Emmen, The Netherlands Posts: 681	Is there any real info on this? I mean, websites or anything??? Wanna see my Winamp 3?

14th July 2002, 18:35	#12
Gonzotek Gunslinger Join Date: May 2000 Location: Terminus Posts: 4,693	A search for nsv Nullsoft yields an unrelated link to zlib, this, which appears to be a Justin Frankel site, and an old, old NSDN beta news report. And some other amusingingly odd, but unrelated links. -=Gonzotek=- I was away for a while. But I'm feeling much better now.

14th July 2002, 23:45	#13
Plague f(caffeine){ return wasabi; } (Forum King) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,984	just a thought, maybe this is why the shoutcast server lister is removed at the moment? maybe it's beeing upgraded with more features and some l33t nsv features.. as I said, it's just a thought.. -Plague Winique work-in-progress (download) \| Stargate:Winamp - SG1 Edition \| D-Reliction \| wasabi.player skin (plague-edit) Winamp3_Default skin (plague fixes) \| Opal Redemption \| X-Slant \| wa2skin.wac

18th July 2002, 10:19	#15
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	everything everyone has said so far is wrong, so keep on guessing

18th July 2002, 10:36	#16
Arvenius Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 34	well basically nsv is a new container-format, just like avi but i think justin added some new features to improve its streaming-quality... not just over shoutcast.. so dudes, do all you DVD-rips in nsv/divx instead of avi/divx, thx ;=)

18th July 2002, 16:59	#17
frenchtouch Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4	Yup *.nsv file will also be able to specify how they were encoded I think. Kind of meta-data about video files, but I don't understand yet the real benefit above the meta-data currently used in AVI standard.

2nd August 2002, 20:28	#18
dj_rigo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 391	does the nsv format really exist or is the plugin pure fluff? i don't suck, right?

2nd August 2002, 21:40	#19
jarsonic Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 1,114	I have a few movie clips in .nsv. It is very real. - Jarsonic do justly \| love mercy \| walk humbly

2nd August 2002, 22:57	#20
nothin2g Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Zeil, wo der Wein wächst und gesoffen wird wie Wasser ;) Ohweeeehhhh... Posts: overflowed Posts: 311	http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/news/062802/index.asp ...great big deal? Fussball Forum

3rd August 2002, 08:21	#21
LENZ.NET Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 291	Nothing like a bit of Jarsonicing. "Some dance to remember, Some dance to forget." Spacer \| Previewer \|

19th August 2002, 03:21	#25
lunarboy1 Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Somewhere, USA Posts: 2,233	hmmm.. seems like this one is justin's baby www.bluni.com Ben Folds Lyrics Database

19th August 2002, 04:36	#26
Vica Major Dude Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: St. Vincent & the Grenadines Posts: 872	Let me see if I can do the math: Ultravox + Winamp3 Technology = $$$ for AOL Website: Template vbulletin skins by exaltic.com[size=0.75] Skins/Coding: D-Shock, Nebular, Triton [/size]

19th August 2002, 05:34	#27
Chapiel Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Oegstgeest - The Netherlands Posts: 54	The video section on winamp.com seems to use these. I agree looks good.

19th August 2002, 06:01	#28
Chapiel Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Oegstgeest - The Netherlands Posts: 54	Just one question, how do you convert files to .nsv? Thanks

19th August 2002, 06:39	#29
Tomato Face Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Gutter. Posts: 452	Use the NSV Encoding Tools which are on the above mentioned site! (http://www.nullsoft.com/nsv/) Old King Cole was a merry old soul.

20th August 2002, 06:56	#30
Cody dot com bomb Beta Team Join Date: May 2000 Location: PA USA Posts: 111	nsv talk NSV is just a baby. Will AOL(c) do the right thing and pimp it? The Video side of things is vp3 from On2. Jump over and check out On2's vp5 codac way better then vp3 by a long shot.

20th August 2002, 08:09	#31
will Nullsoft Newbie (Moderator) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 5,569	As far as i can tell, there is nothing to stop you encoding an nsv file using vp5 for the video, and ogg for the sound. (You'll have to make the encoding and decoding plugins yourself, but soon other people might do that) DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH SUPPORT QUESTIONS

20th August 2002, 08:47	#32
Cody dot com bomb Beta Team Join Date: May 2000 Location: PA USA Posts: 111	vp5 is not out vp5 is not out right now to the public that I knoew of. If you can encode it it let me know the nsv part will be cake grin vp5 to encode you need a usb or other dongle

20th August 2002, 19:44	#34
Cody dot com bomb Beta Team Join Date: May 2000 Location: PA USA Posts: 111	Check out the low end of tthings on vp5 vp5 kicks vp3's ASS in the low speed end of things. I said BS to vp5 for a long time till I got stuck on a slow speed link from hell and WOW it kicks ASS for "the little people" on 99% of aol video can now be sent to them all from in house devs. (cept for video side of things). Will it be paid for or will it be napster all over again with video? Will Aol(c) pimp winamp video to all of aol users? I bet winamp will blend nice now in any next gen aol "control" software. Easy to change for the "new" look...to the all new.....

16th May 2004, 06:50	#35
IANAUN Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 15	a

16th May 2004, 12:52	#38
Gonzotek Gunslinger Join Date: May 2000 Location: Terminus Posts: 4,693	Inedible Bulk, chill out. If you think a post violates one of our forum rules, feel free to use the 'report this post' link. But the rest of IANAUN's posting history seems like honest tech support inquiries. We usually encourage people to search for and use old threads rather than starting new ones on the same subject. Perhaps he just hit the submit button at the wrong moment? An honest mistake doesn't get you banned, nor would the odd single post bump ...90% of our regular members would be guilty of that. Again, if you do think that something requires the attention of the moderators, either report the post or contact a mod via PM. I was away for a while. But I'm feeling much better now.

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