Windows Palladium, the end of privacy as we know it.

[Player 1]

It could be possible to emulate such a system...

[whiteflip]

Originally posted by Player 1
It could be possible to emulate such a system...

system preformance and hardware conflicts would be to great

[Swishy]

Well now wait a minute. While I agree what was described is truly scare, has anyone bother to verify all of this? Some of the information about the DMCA and other areas of the "encyption" are highly questionable.

I'm just saying let's not panic over a dissemenation of information with no sources. Just because it sounds frightening does not mean it's all true.

Swishy

[xzxzzx]

Originally posted by Swishy
Well now wait a minute. While I agree what was described is truly scare, has anyone bother to verify all of this? Some of the information about the DMCA and other areas of the "encyption" are highly questionable.

I'm just saying let's not panic over a dissemenation of information with no sources. Just because it sounds frightening does not mean it's all true.

Swishy

Ask, and you shall recieve. What's questionable? First, www.anti-dmca.org is a great start for anything about the DMCA. What is it exactly that you find questionable? I'll back it up with external refrences, or, if I was wrong, I'll admit it.

But you are right. No, you shouldn't panic just becuase of reading this board. That's true. Go and find out for yourself - or ask for refrences. But don't say "some of this is questionable" - and cast doubt on the whole thing. Tell me exactly what you think is opinion, or "questionable", and I'll back it up.

(I'm acting defencive here, because if I recall correctly, I was the only one talking about the DMCA or encryption)

[xzxzzx]

Originally posted by Player 1
It could be possible to emulate such a system...

Technically ... Maybe

[e1x5x]

/me trys to get as many back up pc parts as possible so he is ready for the palladium invasion..

palladium = pretty much end of privacy

fuck palladium.

[binary hero]

they will be tied up in legal battles for the next 200 years anyway.

(btw e1x5x, your sig is far too big)

[Kazuko]

200 years BillG will prolly be alive.. his properties generate profit that of the GNP of a handful of medium-sized countries. He could pay to keep his geeky ass on life support and not move a muscle for the next two thousand years. I think that when Linux has more of a user base (when more games come out Penguin-Friendly) I think they will r0x0r MS and billG will unplug himself. Besides, there's only so far you can go till someone assassinates you, right? I mean, JFK was blamm'd right next to his entourage. Why can't BillG get killed? Is he immortal? Or does he only think so?

[Kazuko]

Aw shee-it son, wait till Congress finds out we have a Constitution.. aw shee-it son, aw shee-it..

[binary hero]

Originally posted by Kazuko
200 years BillG will prolly be alive.. his properties generate profit that of the GNP of a handful of medium-sized countries. He could pay to keep his geeky ass on life support and not move a muscle for the next two thousand years. I think that when Linux has more of a user base (when more games come out Penguin-Friendly) I think they will r0x0r MS and billG will unplug himself. Besides, there's only so far you can go till someone assassinates you, right? I mean, JFK was blamm'd right next to his entourage. Why can't BillG get killed? Is he immortal? Or does he only think so?

he may well still be alive(O.o), but, and this may sound a bit selfish, i won't.

[Kazuko]

Nah, by then we'd prolly all be part of some huuge project of his, we'd all be part of one big ass computer.. all weird and shit. IF he gets his way, that is. IF.

[HyperHacker]

Oh god

No. NO. NO!
Do you people not realize how serious this is? If this happens M$ will take over the internet, then every computer in the world. At the same time everything is expanding to computers. 99% of critical company info is stored on them. M$ will be able to control this information, and slowly but surely...
THE WORLD!!!
Do you want to be run by Gates?
Everyone's saying "Oh just buy an ARM processor, use Linux, stick to old computers, etc." Do you not realize the flaws in these plans? Read the first post again. Any computers without this will not be able to communicate with computers that do have it - they won't have the proper security clearances. Yes, M$ said it would be optional. And we're just gonna believe them? HELL NO! We're talking about the people who've been using illegal methods to stay on top for years. People who make crap a standard. People who said Windows ME was bug free and just wasn't being used properly!
To add to that, most OSs require internet activity at some point - and if you don't have one of these evil chips that won't be possible. M$ will bribe people running servers to use this stuff.
Sticking with old computers won't work. Eventually they'll be totally obsolete and useless ala Commodore 64. You couldn't possibly use one of those as your main computer today. And eventually it'll break. Sooner or later you'll have to upgrade and then you'll be stuck with one of these too.

I am gonna tell everyone about this. And if it actually does happen, I (and surely thousands of others) will kill them all. Burn the place. I ain't kidding.

[BDA7DD]

rm': I whole heartedly agree with your sentiments. Considering the sources, this sounds like a crock of shit to me.

Neko (and everyone else in agreement with him): Perhaps you should invest in one of these .

[xzxzzx]

Re: Oh god

Originally posted by HyperHacker
Do you people not realize how serious this is? If this happens M$ will take over the internet, then every computer in the world. At the same time everything is expanding to computers.

Ahem. Microsoft, in order to have the power to do something this, would need to have dominance in the server market. It does not. Actually, most web servers run Apache. Yes, there is a Windows version of Apache. But that's not the point. Microsoft has NEVER had dominance in the server market. And never will, not with the current line of products anyway.

[Kazuko]

actually, it's not MS who is the culprit on the server end... DMR (the coding that will be included IN THE PROCESSOR) is what kills the net. Of course, you can turn it off, however, DMR keeps "unauthorized" programs from running on a PC. Chances are the servers will have this activated. Windows merely acts as a GUI for the DMR settings.
As long as servers have AMD and Intel processors, they will have DMR in the system (starting soon) and therefore, be tainted.