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  • IE, FF and Opera driving me nuts

    I am making a webpage, a page for some of my friends which I play a game called Second Life with, but no matter. Everyone knows that the browsers displays stuff different, and IE is far into the plains when it comes to following the Document Object Model.

    I my case, I am having trouble cause I use borders.

    If you look at my page http://www.tempus-web.net/ and look at the menu to the left, and do so with Firefox and Opera, they are almost similar, but if you open this page with Internet Explorer, you'll see the Document Object Model here is very different, and it makes my menu very narrow.

    I am wondering, is there any model which makes them appear almost the same, a hack or trick which makes it look similar with IE, FF and Opera?

    Hate to bug you for this, and to those who think I spam, this page have no commercial content at all. It's plainly for my Second Life friends.

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    And I forgot the current stylesheet. Called Asylum located http://www.tempus-web.net/style/asylum.css so you don't have to do source-digging to help me.
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    • #3
      Vodoc's advice is likely to be helpful, yeah. I don't know what the specific problem is, but you should note that the problem is not with the Document Object Model, it's with IE's Box Model. The DOM is something completely different.

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      • #4
        If you put a . before a property in your stylesheet, you can set a different value for IE.

        Something like..

        code:

        background-color: #000;
        .background-color: #fff;

        Atleast if I'm remembering correctly.

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        • #5
          Looks okay in IE for me.

          Here's a tip for getting stuff to work pretty similarly across browsers. Use tables for layout. Sure it sucks because you're not supposed to use tables for layout, but when it comes down to a choice between what actually works and 'the propery way' of writing html code. I'll take what works. Sorry web standards project...
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mattress
            Looks okay in IE for me.

            Here's a tip for getting stuff to work pretty similarly across browsers. Use tables for layout. Sure it sucks because you're not supposed to use tables for layout, but when it comes down to a choice between what actually works and 'the propery way' of writing html code. I'll take what works. Sorry web standards project...
            As far as I'm concerned, tables are fair play. Phuck Web standards project. Interoperability overweights some silly standards group.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Omega X
              As far as I'm concerned, tables are fair play. Phuck Web standards project. Interoperability overweights some silly standards group.
              I officially hate you.

              I'd like to point out that web standards are why interoperability exists at all. People like you are exactly why IE doesn't support standards, and why people like me have to work so hard to get websites which work with IE, and why there is any problem with interoperability in the first place.

              ...

              Oh, and:
              Originally posted by Mattress
              Here's a tip for getting stuff to work pretty similarly across browsers. Use tables for layout. Sure it sucks because you're not supposed to use tables for layout, but when it comes down to a choice between what actually works and 'the propery way' of writing html code. I'll take what works. Sorry web standards project...
              I officially hate you, too. For the same reasons.
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              • #8
                Don't hate me, hate IE, it's developers and it's many users.

                People like me aren't the reason IE doesn't support standards. If you want to blame someone blame Microsoft and partially Netscape.

                At least I use proper markup. Sorry if I use tables for layout. What's the big difference really? It's either messy HTML or messy CSS. The mess still exists, we just moved it to a different room of the house.

                FYI for my personal sites (where I actually care and have the time to spend messing with it forever) I use CSS based layouts. At work, when shit needs to work right away, tables work right away.
                Besides shooting out a big blank from your buttock, you can feel as if your root chakra leaked sweet hot mucus.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mattress
                  Don't hate me, hate IE, it's developers and it's many users.

                  People like me aren't the reason IE doesn't support standards. If you want to blame someone blame Microsoft and partially Netscape.
                  Your apathy and mediocrity aren't helping the situation. That's why we blame you for this.

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                  • #10
                    My need to get things done on budget and on deadline require me to be apathetic when it comes to web standards.

                    I'd rather eat and have a place to live than follow web standards. Sorry for my lack of conviction and my unwillingness to die for the cause.
                    Besides shooting out a big blank from your buttock, you can feel as if your root chakra leaked sweet hot mucus.

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                    • #11
                      2nd life? I heard that mentioned on a podcast I listen to yesterday.

                      Apprantely it was designed to be an mmorpg sims, but now everyone just uses it for cyberfucking.

                      I'll stick with regular porn.



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                      • #12
                        I read a few articles about that game in The Escapist it intrigues me, apparently the vampire people don't like it when your naked gay troll with detachable penises crashes their rave...
                        Besides shooting out a big blank from your buttock, you can feel as if your root chakra leaked sweet hot mucus.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mattress
                          Don't hate me, hate IE, it's developers and it's many users.

                          People like me aren't the reason IE doesn't support standards. If you want to blame someone blame Microsoft and partially Netscape.

                          At least I use proper markup. Sorry if I use tables for layout. What's the big difference really? It's either messy HTML or messy CSS. The mess still exists, we just moved it to a different room of the house.

                          FYI for my personal sites (where I actually care and have the time to spend messing with it forever) I use CSS based layouts. At work, when shit needs to work right away, tables work right away.
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                          That's what it's all about. Does it work or not.
                          CSS isn't perfect either.

                          I don't see how using tables would cause IE not to obey web standards.
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                          • #14
                            I'm not even going to join into this argument. I've stated my opinion many times before.

                            Just look to your left for my opinion

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                            • #15
                              Tables for layout breaks mobile devices, and various other things. It's just not a good way forward.

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