"There... we did it; we BEAT cancer"

[rm']

Should tobacco products (specifically, cigarettes) be banned? Criminalized? Is it ok to ban cigarettes in public areas? Should cities be allowed to pass by-laws banning smoking in publically-accessed private buildings such as restaurants and malls? Should there be a minimum age limit to the purchase of tobacco products? Should tobacco companies be allowed to target their advertising towards minors?

[Bop]

Should tobacco products (specifically, cigarettes) be banned?
No.

...Criminalized?
No.

Is it ok to ban cigarettes in public areas?
Yes.

Should cities be allowed to pass by-laws banning smoking in publically-accessed private buildings such as restaurants and malls?
Yes.

Should there be a minimum age limit to the purchase of tobacco products?
Yes.

Should tobacco companies be allowed to target their advertising towards minors?
No.

[pixiefied]

Re: "There... we did it; we BEAT cancer"

Originally posted by rm'
Should tobacco products (specifically, cigarettes) be banned? Criminalized? Is it ok to ban cigarettes in public areas? Should cities be allowed to pass by-laws banning smoking in publically-accessed private buildings such as restaurants and malls? Should there be a minimum age limit to the purchase of tobacco products? Should tobacco companies be allowed to target their advertising towards minors?

yes!yes!yes! and there is a age limit for purchasing and using tobacco products.yet kids are still able to get them.the restraunts here will card you! and i think tobacco companys should be shut down.i cant stand the smell of smoke!

[Atmo]

Should tobacco products (specifically, cigarettes) be banned?Criminalized?

No and no.

Is it ok to ban cigarettes in public areas?

Yes.

Should cities be allowed to pass by-laws banning smoking in publically-accessed private buildings such as restaurants and malls?

Yes.

Should there be a minimum age limit to the purchase of tobacco products?

Of course.

Should tobacco companies be allowed to target their advertising towards minors?

No.

As a smoker myself, i belive that its my right to be able to choose to smoke if i want to, however, i also respect the rights of others to be able to go out to a public place in a smoke free environment.

There are times it becomes annoying (like sitting through a 3 1/2 hour move thats not very interesting) but i think it would be more annoying for the non smokers to have to put up with second hand smoke.

[sgtfuzzbubble011]

I think tobacco companies should be shut down. I used to smoke, so don't think of me as just another non-smoker that doesn't know what the smokers think of it. I know... and tobacco is a drug, just like alcohol, cocaine, and heroin. And no, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if drinkable alcohol was made illegal, too. I don't drink enough to care. That'd sure as hell make the roads safer, at least... Drunk drivers should be shot on the spot, that is, if they survive the wreck.

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[meaisl8again]

Well, most of what was asked by rm' is illegal in the US regarding tobacco. The age for purchasing tobacco in the US is 18: distrubiting tobacco to minors is illegal. Tobacco companies have laws restricting where they can advertise. There are also places where smoking is illegal. As a non-smoker, I appreciate that the government has put in place that type of law. I think I'm a pretty liberal person: do what you want as long as it isn't hurting anyone else directly, but they shouldn't be made illegal.

By the way: Isn't making a smoking section in a resturant like making a peeing section in a pool?

Lots of Love,
Mea

[Atmo]

On the topic of tobacco, a few years back there was a huge supply of untaxed tobacco going around here in aus, everyone who smoked was using the stuff..and it made sense. $30 a kilogram, enough to make around 600 cigarettes, and the tubes were around $1 for 100.

So $36 to make 600 cigarettes, compared to $12 for a packet of 40.

Anyways, it all just started dissapearing all of a sudden...Couldnt buy the stuff anywhere. The police were actually doing raids on shops that had been reported as selling it...

I havent seen anyone smoking the stuff for ages.

Seems kinda funny that the govt. can stop something like that from going on, yet cant stop marajuana, cocaine, ecstacy or heroin use...

Probably because they cant collect any tax on it if it isnt legal.

[Trigear]

Originally posted by meaisl8again
By the way: Isn't making a smoking section in a resturant like making a peeing section in a pool?

bingo.

[Sandman2012]

Originally posted by meaisl8again
By the way: Isn't making a smoking section in a resturant like making a peeing section in a pool?

You probably didn't mean it this way, but that's the best pro-smoking section argument I've heard in a long time.

[Aquila Blue]

I am really against smoking. It has been shown that it is a highly mutagenic, with over 200 toxins. I believe that smoking should be banned from public areas, such as totally from restuarants, clubs, bars and work areas. Also minors should definately be discouraged to start, higher taxes would help that, maybe make it $20 a pack or something, then they wouldn't be able to afford to start and the revenue could go towards education against smoking. However, people should still be able to chose to buy it and smoke it in their privacy, but to make things harder for minors, I think they should be sold in special stores, like liquor is sold in special stores in Canada.

[Ember69]

my mom's going to kill me with her second hand smoke

and its legal

[Widdykats]

Originally posted by Sandman2012


You probably didn't mean it this way, but that's the best pro-smoking section argument I've heard in a long time.

Another sicko, thank God! *cough* I think *wheeze* they should
be a lot kinder to the dying. hehehee. I think people who don't
smoke should be allowed spaces completely free of my smoke.
Don't sell smoke or booze to minors cuz it's wrong.
After that, leave me alone *cough* *cough* because I'm too
old to be lectured.

[rm']

As a point of reference, I personally am against virtually all restrictions on the sale/use/promotion of tobacco products, and I'm not a smoker.

Carry on.

[meaisl8again]

^ so you don't mind when other people blow hazardous and carcinogenic material in your face?

Lots of Love,
Mea

[Atmo]

Originally posted by Aquila Blue
Also minors should definately be discouraged to start, higher taxes would help that, maybe make it $20 a pack or something, then they wouldn't be able to afford to start and the revenue could go towards education against smoking.

I disagree.

All that would do is punish the people who already smoke.

It would be like charging $5 per litre of petrol instead of building cleaner, more efficient engines.

Heres a thought i had, that might work (cant see it happening though).

Instead of selling them everywhere, why not make tobacco products prescription based?? So existing smokers can still continue to smoke if they wish, but people cant take it up.

That would make it impossible for minors to access enough to get addicted.